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What Ban? Huawei is Launching 'New Editions' of Existing Smartphones With Support For Google Services (arstechnica.com) 45

Huawei has found a neat workaround to keep bundling Google apps on its smartphones: Launch new variants of old smartphones. From a report: The way the export ban has worked in practice is that Huawei devices that launched before the export ban (and some that launched even slightly after) can still be sold with Google apps. Devices that launched well after the ban, like the Mate 30 Pro, are stuck without the Google apps. So Huawei's solution, and its interpretation of the law, is that re-releases of old devices can still ship with Google apps. So meet the "New Editions" of old Huawei phones. This week, the company announced that the Huawei P30 Pro would be returning as the "Huawei P30 Pro New Edition," and earlier this year it re-launched the P30 Lite as the "P30 Lite New Edition." Both of these phones are from March 2019, so they're well over a year old now, but they both have Google app licenses, so welcome back!
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What Ban? Huawei is Launching 'New Editions' of Existing Smartphones With Support For Google Services

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  • Pfft (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Type44Q ( 1233630 ) on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:16PM (#60061684)

    ... so welcome back!

    Speak for yourself, nitwit.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Yeah, Slashdot is promoting loopholes against legitimate economic sanctions and trying to be cute about it. Ms. Mash spews sob pieces left and right on how workers are being scammed, underpaid, etc. and we have the perfect opportunity to ban a spy company and bring some real jobs back to the USA.

      What will it be, Ms. Mash? Why is everyone a victim, and why are you so anti-American?
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by CRC'99 ( 96526 )

        we have the perfect opportunity to ban a spy company and bring some real jobs back to the USA.

        Sorry mate, but that boat sailed a looooong time ago... The way America is handling COVID-19 now shows exactly why those jobs are gone from the USA...

        The irony is that a lot of the world looks at what is going on in the USA and wonders how it hasn't all self-imploded yet... Might be hard to see from the inside, but that's what the rest of the world thinks...

        All this patriotism talk feels like the final thrust while spinning around the gurgler...

        • Re:Pfft (Score:4, Interesting)

          by coastwalker ( 307620 ) <acoastwalker@NospaM.hotmail.com> on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:49AM (#60062372) Homepage

          The world is looking on in horror at the prospect of an American cold war against China which will deepen the recession due to trade restrictions. Prudent onshoring of strategic manufacturing is good but it is not the same thing as a cold war. Withdrawal from global co-ordination will also increase the devastation of Covid-19. America played a lead role in stabalising the global economy after the banking crisis but looks set to actually make this crisis worse. this is very worrying.

          • Get a grip, China has been making war on us for years and years. You didn't speak a word about it. Now suddenly America decides it's going to do something about it and THAT'S the problem. This kind of thinking makes me want to puke.

            America played a lead role in stabalising the global economy after the banking crisis

            American banks CAUSED the banking crisis! Bill Clinton repealed Glass-Steagal, which predictably crashed the economy within a decade. Now you're praising Obama's "stabilising" the econo

            • by DRJlaw ( 946416 )

              Bill Clinton repealed Glass-Steagal, which predictably crashed the economy within a decade. Now you're praising Obama's "stabilising" the economy, without any recognition of why it happened in the first place? How do you DO this?

              He does it the same way that you lack recognition of the fact that the repeal of Glass-Steagal was initiated by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, (Pub.L. 106-102) where

              Respective versions of the Financial Services Act

              • Presidents own the economy. It's the reason Obama got credit for Trump's booming economy, and Trump is getting trashed for the shitty economy that the virus caused.

                Hey, did you know that Bill Clinton accepted illegal campaign contributions from the Chinese in 1996? And in return he supported their admittance to the WTO, which caused the entire "rise of China" problem we're dealing with now? The more you know!

                • by DRJlaw ( 946416 )

                  Presidents own the economy.

                  Sorry, you yourself blamed 2008 on legislation passed in 1999. Congresscritters own legislation.

                  It's the reason Obama got credit for Trump's booming economy,

                  So Obama does get credit for stabilizing the post-2007 Financial Crisis economy and the $4 Trillion/year in uninterrupted growth through 2016, yet you still claim it's somehow Trump's economy despite entering in office in 2017. Got it.

                  Hey, did you know that Bill Clinton accepted illegal campaign contributions from the Chines

          • The world is looking on in horror

            where'd you find the time/resources to poll all those people?

      • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

        by h33t l4x0r ( 4107715 )
        The flagship phones are shipping without Google Play, but you can always install it later. I don't know why anyone thinks this is a big deal. Banning Chinese people from playing flappy bird will not bring back USA jobs.
      • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

        by thegarbz ( 1787294 )

        and why are you so anti-American?

        Not all of us here are American and some of us think your country and it's tantrum with China is just plain fucking stupid. So yay, good work on Huawei on circumventing the *illegitimate* sanctions.

        • Yep. Slashdot 2020, marked as a troll for not being American and not supporting America. What a lovely international online site this is.

      • Isn't cisco still in buisness?

        Huawei hasn't been caught installing spy backdoors. Yet.

    • No he speaks for a lot of us. Slashdot has an international audience and not all of care for America's little temper tantrum further limiting options for consumers on the market.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:22PM (#60061696)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • by CRC'99 ( 96526 ) on Friday May 15, 2020 @12:47AM (#60062228) Homepage

      In the case of telecom giants, they have a massive dependency on Huawei gear to operate existing networks

      It's quite simple, the US needs Huawei more than Huawei needs the US... And you're right - the mobile phone networks in America are an absolute joke in data limits, speeds, handset compatibility and more...

      Who knows, maybe when they are forced to, a 5G rollout may well unify their networks and allow consumer choice to use the same handset between networks etc - but established business practice means this is likely to be squashed for ideology instead.

      • .... allow consumer choice to use the same handset between networks

        I've been able to do this for the past 5 years with my iPhone. I've used it on Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile

        • by CRC'99 ( 96526 )

          .... allow consumer choice to use the same handset between networks

          I've been able to do this for the past 5 years with my iPhone. I've used it on Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile

          ... but you bought your handset direct from Apple, and not from a carrier, right?

    • by jonwil ( 467024 )

      Unlike the UK, Australia has put its relationship with the US (and almost certainly the NSA in particular) ahead of what's good for the country by banning the use of Huawei gear in the new 5G networks.

  • If I'm reading this right they're rebooting something specifically to keep a license going, but they're still differentiating the name enough for people to understand what they are buying.

    The only thing I feel about this chicanery is...undying hatred for the entertainment industry.

  • I looked up the executive order. It mostly talked in terms of infrastructure.

    If the worry is spying, it seems like routers and access points are the biggest threat since it affects everyone.
  • Gotta hand it to scrappy Huawei, & their can-do spirit. This ban is a joke. They make great phones that are solid value for money. Why can't our own companies try offering customers a more compelling value proposition instead of these political tactics? Like I'm supposed to care that they spy on us. Dude, please. Our own government is the biggest spy master in the world!
  • I thought buying a phone without impossible-to-remove google bloatware is actually a plus. If you really like the Google app store, just side-load it and install only what you need. I am still wondering how do delete the moronic "hangouts" without root on my older devices.

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