Samsung Announces Galaxy S10, Galaxy S10 Plus, and Galaxy S10E Smartphones (theverge.com) 82
On the sidelines of the Galaxy Fold announcement, Samsung today also unveiled the Galaxy S10, Galaxy S10 Plus, and Galaxy S10E -- the latest iteration of its flagship Android offering. The Samsung Galaxy S10 sports a 6.1-inch Dynamic AMOLED display with Quad HD+ resolution in a 19:9 aspect ratio, whereas the Galaxy S10 Plus has a 6.4-inch display. Both the handsets are powered by Qualcomm's latest and greatest Snapdragon 855, coupled with 8GB or 12GB of RAM, and 128GB to 512GB (1TB on S10 Plus), expandable via microSD of storage. On the photography front, both the handsets have a wide angle 12-megapixel (77-degree), telephoto 12-megapixel (45-degree), and ultra wide 16-megapixel (123-degree) on the back; and 10 megapixels, 8-megapixel RGB depth camera (S10 Plus) upfront. The Galaxy S10 has 3,400mAh battery, whereas the Plus sibling houses a 4,100mAh battery. Both the handsets run Android 9 Pie with Samsung One UI, and support Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5, LTE Cat.20, wireless charging. They both have USB-C ports, and a headphone jack.
Samsung Galaxy S10E is a lower-cost, smaller variant of the other two phones. It has a 5.8-inch "Dynamic AMOLED" display, Full HD+ resolution in a 19:9 aspect ratio. You can read more about it here. All three phones will be available for preorder starting tomorrow, February 21, and they will start shipping on March 8th. In addition to all four major US carriers, the S10 family will also be available unlocked from Samsung and other retailers, starting at $899.99 for the S10 and $999.99 for the S10 Plus. The S10E starts at $750.
Samsung Galaxy S10E is a lower-cost, smaller variant of the other two phones. It has a 5.8-inch "Dynamic AMOLED" display, Full HD+ resolution in a 19:9 aspect ratio. You can read more about it here. All three phones will be available for preorder starting tomorrow, February 21, and they will start shipping on March 8th. In addition to all four major US carriers, the S10 family will also be available unlocked from Samsung and other retailers, starting at $899.99 for the S10 and $999.99 for the S10 Plus. The S10E starts at $750.
I'll buy anything... (Score:2)
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They did add another camera (Score:3)
The super wide angle camera is kind of interesting, especially for use in video - you can get adaptors to give you a fisheye view but having it on-device seems handy.
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A $150 Moto X4 has a wide camera, too. What I want is a long one, not a wide one.
They have that too (Score:2)
The have a 2x tele, a wide camera, and a super wide.
I would agree that an even longer telephoto lens would be cool, but at some point you are really going to be extending out that camera bump probably too far.
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A few years ago that was the case, but these days you have to invent an outlandish conspiracy theory about how that feature is being used to spy on you.
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When I got my glass-backed S8 I thought it was going to break the moment I dropped it (I never use phone cases). I've been pleasantly surprised though - I've dropped it on tiles twice and it hasn't even cracked, whereas my S3 got screen cracking when I dropped it one time.
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My S7 is fragile looking glass all around and has survived trips to 30 countries on six continents.
It has two chips on opposite edges of the front glass that don't impinge on the screen, as a result of being dropped on a rock in the Sahara Desert. It has a tiny scratch (2mm long) it picked up when I fell in a river in Papua New Guinea.
Aside from that it's in mint condition. It's a bloody good bit of hardware.
Yay, flat screen available (Score:2, Interesting)
Not a big fan on the extra long aspect ratios that are all the rage these day, but kudos to Samsung for making a version that doesn't have the stupid curved screen, and keeping the headphone jack on all the models. And I guess the pinhole camera is somewhat better than a notch.
Hate the stupiud curved edge screen (Score:3)
I never understand why the spec fetishists always demanded the CPU/GPU/Battery-killing QHD resolution on phone screens (which IMHO, is useless on a phone), and yet tolerated the massive visible distortion along the edges of it.
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Really there isn't that much of a difference. I use the iPhone for the fact that all my Apps and Apps that I need for Work are on it. People in my workplace who have Android phone, will make excuses that they don't want work apps on their phone, or they have some odd 3rd party tool that will do the trick, mostly.
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There's nothing at all smart about the Android platform, sorry. The illusion of control, the reality of fragmented piecemeal OEM-controlled OS you can't do anything but jailbreak anyway. Android = the FB of OS'es.
At least Apple half-assed a wall around the garden for the rubes. Android is nothing but a headless UI wrapper.
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The illusion of control,
You can choose your level of control, with your wallet. You can buy a phone without crapware (e.g. Android One) or you can buy a phone with an unlockable bootloader. Can't get that from Apple. Or you can take a subsidized phone shoveled full of bullshit, which is much cheaper than getting it from Apple.
the reality of fragmented piecemeal OEM-controlled OS you can't do anything but jailbreak anyway.
Whut? The reality is, you're not making any sense.
At least Apple half-assed a wall around the garden for the rubes.
A half-assed wall is no wall at all. Just ask China.
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Considering they haven't shipped yet that is quite a feat.
One question? (Score:2, Insightful)
Nice to see Jack (Score:2, Insightful)
"They both have USB-C ports, and a headphone jack."
Well done Samsung.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these mining bitcoins (Score:4, Funny)
I actually had to read the original release (Score:4, Interesting)
Sooooooooooo:
"...support for Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5, and 2Gbps LTE (but not 5G; that’ll be in another S10 variant arriving later this year)."
Which is pretty much all I need to know. If I'm buying a phone at this price, it's going to be used for 5+ years which means nope.
Although 2x-4x the memory and equal memory to what I have on my laptop is pretty neat, if you need that on a phone.
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If I'm buying a phone at this price, it's going to be used for 5+ years
Do you anticipate suddenly your 5 year old phone will need a massive boost in available bandwidth to continue doing what it is already doing? Do you anticipate your phone company will just toss LTE on the trash-heap in 5 years?
*Posted from an 8 year old PC which I need to upgrade because it doesn't support real time ray tracing and I'm just drooling at the mouth. ... Not due to any particular technological need, the drooling is just a medical condition resulting from this bizarre idea that something faster
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Not the OP but:
"Do you anticipate suddenly your 5 year old phone will need a massive boost in available bandwidth to continue doing what it is already doing?"
Yes. The data I used 5 years ago isn't comparable to what I use today. There wasn't even a package available back then to cover what I have on my package now.
"Do you anticipate your phone company will just toss LTE on the trash-heap in 5 years?"
No. I anticipate that they'll move all their kit to 5G to "sell" 5G, and in the process never deploy 4G to
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Exactly this. 5G is not a replacement for 4G, it's complimentary to it and we'll have both for a long while.
5G: Oh, hey there 4G
4G: Hi 5G! You're looking swole today. Been working out?
5G (blushing): Oh 4G, you so silly. Want to get dinner tonight?
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Yes. The data I used 5 years ago isn't comparable to what I use today. There wasn't even a package available back then to cover what I have on my package now.
So you admit that the difference is in data availability and not technical capabilities of your phone? Certainly Android update were just as big 5 years ago. Youtube was still 1080p.
No. I anticipate that they'll move all their kit to 5G to "sell" 5G, and in the process never deploy 4G to its maximum capability
That wasn't the question. The question was whether they will demolish or purposefully degrade their service. On the flip side are you suggesting that areas which currently have no 4G coverage will in 5 years have 5G but no 4G, and this despite the well known range limitations of 5G infrastructure? That doesn't make any kind of s
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this bizarre idea that something faster is automagically better
Hmm. Gigabit uploads are objectively better than anything I have at present, let alone the 3G connection my current phone is constrained to.
When you capture 170GB of video at an event and people want to watch it the next day on Youtube bandwidth matters.
I need to upgrade because it doesn't support real time ray tracing
You'd best hang on a couple of years then, current graphics card technology is not offering real time raytracing at any sensible resolution and frame rate.
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Hmm. Gigabit uploads are objectively better than anything I have at present, let alone the 3G connection my current phone is constrained to.
You're worried about gigabit uploads from your smartphone on a network which may or may not exist? Again faster is not magically better. Access plays a big role, hence my raytracing example. Having the latest and greatest makes bugger all sense if you can't use it.
When you capture 170GB of video at an event and people want to watch it the next day on Youtube bandwidth matters.
You're not normal. Interestingly it seems like you're able to do this already given your very specific example.
You'd best hang on a couple of years then, current graphics card technology is not offering real time raytracing at any sensible resolution and frame rate.
Yeah and yet the 2 games which offer it would happily disagree.
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What is the point of buying a phone this expensive and trying to keep it for five years? Why not just pay half as much, get a phone that is 97% as good, and upgrade it after 2.5 years? Seems much more sensible than trying to find a phone that will hold up on both tech and durability with everyday use for 5 years.
Re: I actually had to read the original release (Score:1)
Why not just keep THAT phone for 5 years? A galaxy S4 is still a perfectly usable, acceptable phone, even if you don't put LineageOS on it.
No notch (Score:4, Insightful)
Worth the price of admission all by itself.
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Customers spoke out and Samsung listened.
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Yes. I think I might upgrade my S9+ for this reason alone. Reward companies that listen to their customers.
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I mean, it still has a cut-out for the front-facing camera. It's smaller, which is nice, but it looks like it might just be a camera instead of the multiple sensors that Apple puts in the notch.
So it's not like they totally avoided the problem and didn't do anything like the notch. In both cases, the manufacturer was trying to find a way to have an edge-to-edge screen while also putting front-facing sensors. In both cases, they decided to resolve it by having a cut-out in the screen. Apple did a larger
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The cutout is small and unobtrusive because it doesn't occupy the valuable top center screen real estate. The other sensors have been moved to the tiny bezel, look closely. All very sensible and obvious, Apple just blew it and will pay by losing more market share.
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Apple cultists are scary like Scientologists.
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Bottom line... (Score:5, Insightful)
The bottom line: with a headphone jack, no notch, and one or two hundred dollars under Apple's prices with twice the storage, Samsung will eat Apple market share. Plus, Apple fanboy Google and every Android OEM that went with the ugly as sin notch has to switch to copying Samsung now.
Headphone jack FTW.
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Yah, sensible, and a broad pricing spectrum to cover different needs and pocketbooks.
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It won't, because: 1. Apple users don't care 2. It's not iPhone
No limits! Unlimited unlimits! (Score:2)
"Sign up with Verizon and use up your 95 GB Unlimited Unlimited plan in less than 5 seconds!"
Not enough units will be sold (Score:2)
It's an interesting innovation but they're not going to ship enough of these things to create a viable market for them. I personally wouldn't buy a chunky phone like that on the off chance I'd want to unfold it to double my screen size. Just be happy with the 6" 19:9 or whatever it is screen and be done with it. Is the extra price, weight, and bulk worth that occasional convenience for all but a few strange people? No.
High tier customer acquisition (Score:1)
8 to 10+ (Score:1)