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Valve Confirms SteamOS Will Support the Asus ROG Ally (theverge.com) 21
Valve designer Lawrence Yang confirmed to The Verge that the company plans to support SteamOS on the rival Asus ROG Ally gaming handheld. From the report: A few days ago, some spotted an intriguing line in Valve's latest SteamOS release notes: "Added support for extra ROG Ally keys." We didn't know Valve was supporting any ROG Ally keys at all, let alone extras! Maybe Valve was just supporting those keys in the Steam desktop client on a Windows, where it offers a Steam Deck-like Big Picture Mode interface for any PC, and the line mistakenly made it into these patch notes? I asked to be safe. But no: this is indeed about Valve eventually supporting the ROG Ally and other rival handhelds!
"The note about ROG Ally keys is related to third-party device support for SteamOS. The team is continuing to work on adding support for additional handhelds on SteamOS," Yang tells me. That doesn't mean Asus will officially bless Valve's installer or sell the Ally with SteamOS, of course. (Asus has told me there are many reasons why it ships with Windows; a big one is that Microsoft has dedicated validation teams that ensure its operating system works across many different hardware configurations and chips.) And it's not like Valve is suggesting it'll offer SteamOS for rival handhelds anytime soon, either. Valve is "making steady progress," Yang tells me, but it "isn't ready to run out of the box yet." Valve has announced plans for a general release of SteamOS 3 that can be installed on non-handheld PCs; however, Yang says it's not quite ready yet. As for turning Steam Decks into dual-booting Windows machines, here's what Yang said: "As for Windows, we're preparing to make the remaining Windows drivers for Steam Deck OLED available (you might have seen that we are prepping firmware for the Bluetooth driver). There's no update on the timing for dual boot support -- it's still a priority, but we haven't been able to get to it just yet."
"The note about ROG Ally keys is related to third-party device support for SteamOS. The team is continuing to work on adding support for additional handhelds on SteamOS," Yang tells me. That doesn't mean Asus will officially bless Valve's installer or sell the Ally with SteamOS, of course. (Asus has told me there are many reasons why it ships with Windows; a big one is that Microsoft has dedicated validation teams that ensure its operating system works across many different hardware configurations and chips.) And it's not like Valve is suggesting it'll offer SteamOS for rival handhelds anytime soon, either. Valve is "making steady progress," Yang tells me, but it "isn't ready to run out of the box yet." Valve has announced plans for a general release of SteamOS 3 that can be installed on non-handheld PCs; however, Yang says it's not quite ready yet. As for turning Steam Decks into dual-booting Windows machines, here's what Yang said: "As for Windows, we're preparing to make the remaining Windows drivers for Steam Deck OLED available (you might have seen that we are prepping firmware for the Bluetooth driver). There's no update on the timing for dual boot support -- it's still a priority, but we haven't been able to get to it just yet."
They'd be a fool not to support it. (Score:4, Insightful)
hahahahhaa (Score:2)
Asus has told me there are many reasons why it ships with Windows; a big one is that Microsoft has dedicated validation teams that ensure its operating system works across many different hardware configurations and chips.
HAhAHAhAHHaAHAHAHaHa
We've seen what Microsoft's validation teams are worth, specifically, fuck-all. If they are so able to "ensure" (hahahHaHa) that its operating system works (HahAHAH) across many different hardware configurations and chips, why does Microsoft have to restrict Windows 11 to only the newest systems with the newest TPM?
But more importantly to the claim, there are not many different configurations and chips used in the ROG Ally, so that's just a spectacularly dumb explanation.
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Microsoft's validation teams are why you have such a hilarious amount of supported hardware for windows. That just works, without the need for troubleshooting. It took them two and a half decades to refine this, slowly and with a lot of effort. If you used 95, 98, ME, 2k, xp, vista etc, you lived through that progress. From times when misconfigured IRQ shit crashed the machines as a matter of routine in 95 to today where you just plug something in after restart, and OS will usually just get the correct driv
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Microsoft's validation teams are why you have such a hilarious amount of supported hardware for windows. That just works, without the need for troubleshooting.
Neither of those are things. Linux supports far more hardware and far more of it works correctly. Windows has dropped support for PRINTERS that were sold recently, let alone anything actually difficult to support. And there are still failures in drivers constantly. When I got my laptop with Windows 10 and powered it on, the first thing I saw after the desktop was the video driver crashing and the system telling me I needed to reboot.
The fact that you confuse this with TPM mandate tells me you don't understand the subject. TPM mandate has nothing to do with validating hardware as working.
You understand literally nothing. The TPM mandate is for two reasons and tw
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Just because you call black white, doesn't mean that black became white. No, linux hardware support is not superior to windows because your GPU driver crashed once.
And no, they have not reduced the amount of hardware supported. Here's windows 11 running on Pentium E2160 with 1GB of RAM. It has no TPM functionality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
TPM mandates are about a completely different issue. It has not affected hardware that OS can actually run. It has merely affected what you can install it on with
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TPM mandates are about a completely different issue. It has not affected hardware that OS can actually run. It has merely affected what you can install it on with default ISO.
Microsoft has already altered the deal and you don't think they're going to alter it again? I see you're new.
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Glad we agree that I'm talking about reality right now, while your claims are about a fantasy you have in your head.
And here is the third downmod (Score:2)
This is the third downmod from my daily harasser. Whee ha.
Why does this cuck get modpoints every day?
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As a long time user of Surface devices I can only re-inforce your HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA because they can't even get driver updates and software rollouts working flawlessly on their own frigging first party hardware.
*sigh* (Score:4, Insightful)
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Iâ(TM)d prefer a tier of mini-PCs with the exact same specs but in a well cooled box and official support over potential community splits to other handhelds.
OK, but what does that objection have to do with this story, which is about Valve and not the Steam user community supporting this device?
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Why are you sighing? If the one thing you bought the Steamdeck for is its Linux support, then you should be celebrating this announcement as it gives you more choice for hardware since you will be able to run SteamOS on the RoG Ally.
If you want a miniPC then go for it. Just download SteamOS and put it on a miniPC and pair it with a bluetooth controller. There's literally nothing stopping you do so.
https://store.steampowered.com... [steampowered.com] Go nuts. The whole point about this is it's open for you to play with whateve
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I'm fairly certain that's the old Debian-based SteamOS from their initial attempt at "Steam Machines"
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Ahh true, a bit of digging shows that this is in fact SteamOS 1, and SteamOS 3 is not publicly available. That said my general point still stands, more choice is being offered for the OP with hardware on this announcement.
Also it seems other distros have filled in the gaps to bridge the Linux experience with Steam in a livingroom console centric way: https://bazzite.gg/ [bazzite.gg] and that's before you consider how trivial it is to setup any old linux box, install proton on it, install steam, and have steam it auto-st
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Steam Deck's Linux performance has been so amazing, that I've literally switched all my Windows machines to Linux now (Nobara at the moment), and I will never go back. Gaming has NEVER been better on Linux. Why anyone would want to put Windows on a Steam Deck is beyond me. (Yes, I get there's an argument if you like to play a very specific game like Destiny, which through company policy won't allow you to run that on the Deck, despite it actually working very well - but I say, just don't play it, until the
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It’s because it’s a Linux gaming device that nearly 100% Just Works.
A search for "crash" on r/SteamDeck suggests otherwise.
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Does it show up more often than the word "crash" for Windows, or "crash" for Playstation? Anything can crash, though I can't say I've ever experienced it ever on a Steamdeck it most certainly happened to someone.
Ok, but then Half Life 3? (Score:3)
I mean, sure this sounds great - but I'm just gonna keep waiting for Half Life 3. C'mon Valve......priorities.
Great news (Score:2)
Great news, if the support is really first tier, because to this day the Steam Deck isn't available in Brazil (not officially at least).