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Samsung Readying Its Own Smartphone-to-Satellite Communication Platform (engadget.com) 30

An anonymous reader shares a report: There was speculation that Samsung could use smartphone-to-satellite technology in its Galaxy S23 much like Apple has for the iPhone 14, but that didn't happen in the end. Now, the company has unveiled a new standardized 5G NTN (non-terrestrial network) modem that will enable two-way communication between smartphones and satellites. The technology will allow users to send and receive calls, text messages and data without the need for a cellular network, and will be integrated into Samsung's future Exynos chips.

The aim is to allow people in mountains, deserts or other remote areas to communication with others in critical situations. 5G NTN conforms to 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP Release 17) standards, meaning it works with traditional communication services from chip manufacturers, smartphone makers and telecoms. However, Samsung indicated that the tech could eventually be used to transmit high-definition photos and even video, on top of texts and calls.

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Samsung Readying Its Own Smartphone-to-Satellite Communication Platform

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    • It might also end up with a legal problem. As the article stated, isnt this Apples innovation they are trying (again) to rip off?
    • Are you suggesting Samsung is a company with one employee a software developer who is now working on hardware modems and as such can't work on 2 things at once?

      • Have I wrote this ? I don't think so. I pretty sure there is an army of developers in Korea (70000 I heard ? Don't know if it's true). Obviously, quantity does not mean quality.
        What I am suggesting is that the sales and marketing guys don't know what a client is. May be they even think their clients are captive. Sales figures are not telling this.

        • Have I wrote this ? I don't think so.

          Yes you did. You said they need to fix the green screen "before" moving onto another problem. You directly implied that they can't do two things at once. If that was not your intention the local school can provide you an English course.

          • D'accord, si vous voulez jouer à ça, on va passer à ma langue natale, le Français. C'est ce que vous voulez ?
            @Samsung se fout totalement de la gueule de ses clients, ils n'en ont rien à foutre, pour eux, ce sont des vaches à lait captives. Va chier @Samsung.

            You're hiding behind grammar to avoid the main problem : they don't care about clients.
            Oh ? Don't tell me you're working for @Samsung ?

  • Between this and starlink, astronomy research will take a big hit. Maybe time for some global regulations.

    The people hurt the most will be amateur astronomers.

    • Communications are more important than armature astronomy. Especially when you consider these missions fund the development of better rockets which will lower the costs ultimately for space based telescopes which is where the future of astronomical discoveries will likely come from. A worthwhile trade off.
      • We have communication. We have it in absolute fucking spades. We also have solutions for establishing communications to remote areas without resorting to fucking up astronomy.

        This is not a zero sum game, you're supporting the only technology Elon Musk advertised to you (SPAAAAAACE) out of ignorance.

  • We were supposed to get 5G to the masses and all be able to run our own local networks. That was the promise during the research phase. Most of it operates in bandpasses @ 3.9Ghz - 7.1Ghz. Those are very high bandwidth and valuable. So, of course, only big corporations and folks who have given tribute to The Man can play. Imagine how cool it would be if Joe IT guy could also play and small carriers could once again compete with the bigger guys for niche applications. Sure you can still buy 5G gear, but when
    • there is a significant bit used for 5GHz ISM band (WiFi band)

      Or are you wanting armature band frequencies?
      These frequencies have a lot of bandwidth but some serious limitations (such as limited amount of going through stuff as the wavelength is so short they tend to be more line of sight as you get higher in frequency.)

      The thing with a phone direct to the satellite is will it work from inside a building or car. Such things as the car chassis can significantly attenuate or reflect the signal so that it
  • They still can't have an original thought, even after all these years.

    Wow.

    Minimum reliability, maximum user frustration.

    Apple knew when to stop with these capabilities; Samsung just wants to tout another half-baked "feature".

    Difference is, this one is going to get someone killed, for trying to rely on it!

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    • They still can't have an original thought, even after all these years.

      *Sigh* This is nothing at all like what Apple implemented. This isn't a Samsung implementation but rather an application of the newly released 3GPP standard, the implementation of which is 5G and not just partnering with a satellite firm.

      Please take Tim Cook's dick out of your mouth and take a breath. The lack of oxygen is affecting your ability to understand TFS.

  • Too bad Samsung has to be behind one or two phone models before copying Apple's lead. It's a shame they can't copy what Apple does a little faster.

    • Samsung is implementing the 3GPP standard, waiting for the industry so that compatibility is maximized.

      Apple, as usual, charged ahead with a proprietary, half baked solution that works just enough so morons like you will think that they invented satellite communications and everyone else is copying them.

  • These satellite systems have limited bandwidth. If 1 billion people are trying to use them at once, how is that going to work?

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      • But what stops you from forcing the phone onto the satellite network? These are consumer devices. The owners can essentially put whatever they want on there.

        Traditionally, you'd have to pay excessive fees for using sat phones. Is that going to be the case here? Is this some sort of ultra-roaming rate?

        • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
          Why would you force your phone into satellite mode? It's going to be slower and more cumbersome. Also, your carrier will probably be happy to charge you for it.
          • Well, that's what I'm curious about. My subscriber agreement doesn't include a Mt. Everest roaming rate. So I don't see how Samsung is going to add charges to my bill.

            Beyond hackers just doing their thing, I live near a bay that sees thousands of people each day sailing and engaging in other water activities. The bay also has no cell service. I think you can see how this type of thing could cause issues if there's no financial cost to the user.

            • by Cyberax ( 705495 )

              Well, that's what I'm curious about. My subscriber agreement doesn't include a Mt. Everest roaming rate.

              Well, your network will likely have an agreement with the satellite operator. Because why not? And like with regular terrestrial roaming, it'll be optional for you.

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  • And Hookers!

    ... on second thought, forget the satellite communication platform

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