Apple No Longer Planning To Launch iPhone SE 4 Next Year (macrumors.com) 24
An anonymous reader quotes a report from MacRumors: Apple has informed suppliers that it has canceled plans to release a fourth-generation iPhone SE in 2024, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. Kuo previously said that the fourth-generation iPhone SE would be canceled or postponed, but he now firmly believes that the device has been canceled. In a post on Medium today, Kuo said that Apple planned to introduce its first in-house 5G chip in the fourth-generation iPhone SE, but that is obviously no longer expected to happen since the device is apparently canceled. Instead, Kuo said it is likely that Apple will continue to rely on Qualcomm for 5G chips in 2024, including for the iPhone 16 series.
Kuo said Apple planned to test the 5G chip in the iPhone SE before rolling it out to iPhone 16 models to ensure that real-world performance was acceptable: "Due to concerns that the performance of the in-house baseband chip may not be up to par with Qualcomm's, Apple initially planned to launch its baseband chip in 2024 and let the low-end iPhone SE 4 adopt it first, and decide whether to let the iPhone 16 use its baseband chip depending on the development status of iPhone SE 4. However, the cancelation of the iPhone SE 4 has significantly increased the chances of Qualcomm remaining the exclusive supplier of baseband chips for the 2H24 new iPhone 16 series, which is better than the market consensus that Qualcomm will start losing iPhone orders in 2024."
Kuo said Apple planned to test the 5G chip in the iPhone SE before rolling it out to iPhone 16 models to ensure that real-world performance was acceptable: "Due to concerns that the performance of the in-house baseband chip may not be up to par with Qualcomm's, Apple initially planned to launch its baseband chip in 2024 and let the low-end iPhone SE 4 adopt it first, and decide whether to let the iPhone 16 use its baseband chip depending on the development status of iPhone SE 4. However, the cancelation of the iPhone SE 4 has significantly increased the chances of Qualcomm remaining the exclusive supplier of baseband chips for the 2H24 new iPhone 16 series, which is better than the market consensus that Qualcomm will start losing iPhone orders in 2024."
SE is too powerful (Score:2)
I can understand why they don't want to do this. I'm still on the iPhone 7 and it's fine. It does everything I bought it for (photos, web, maps, calls) - all the core smartphone stuff. When it eventually dies I'll get an SE as this also does all the core things I want and is much cheaper than the flagship. If they upgrade the SE even more then all this will mean is that I don't have to upgrade again for even longer. I imagine this is quite typical of the type of people who go the SE route, vs customers who
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from that perspective any iphone was not a smart choice. the only aspect where iphones have traditionally stood out is the camera, but for every iphone iteration there were usually several android models around with "good enough" capability on that front (even for e.g. an instagram junkie) and with significant improvement in all other areas at a fraction of the cost.
Re:SE is too powerful (Score:5, Insightful)
iOS support... Anything newer than iPhone 8 (released in 2017) still got the newest iOS (16.2 as of writing). And many older models got at least a bugfix update.
Picking an android phone one needs to research the vendor's support history... And pray.
Re: SE is too powerful (Score:2)
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apple is great at putting out updates to older phones that slow them down and help their users to decide to upgrade their once perfectly good working devices
That was once true, for the iPhone 3G and 3GS, back in 2010. Since then it's no longer true at all.
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I switched to the original iPhone SE (that was great) because I was tired of small Samsung's finicky phones where the batteries didn't last, and the GPS didn't always work great.
I just wanted a SMALL phone where I knew it would work. And the original SE did that well.
Today I had to upgrade to a 13 mini. It works great but is a lot bigger than the original SE. The new SE made no sense to me, since it was larger but inferior to the 13 mini.
Price doesn't matter much to me.
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Its the OS dude. Androids great, I have it on my Samsung tablet, and it does ALMOST everything I need it for (Its lacking a good sheet music program of the calibre available on the iPad, but few deny the advantage ipads have here. I *dont* understand why (Come on Muse, put out Staffpad for the Android, if it runs on ios AND windows tablets, its clearly got all the infrastructure to do an android port already, its not a whacky swift app or anything. Its money being left on the table guys!).
However I just pre
Grippable vs fondlable (Score:1)
Touch ID (Score:1)
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People i now that have the iPhone SE want it for Touch ID - works better for them. Sad that they won't have a Touch ID option left.
Not necessarily. It could be a sign that Apple is going to add a fingerprint reader under the screen across the entire product line.
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Yes! It's incredibly stupid how slippery Apple makes their iPhones-it's like they are intentionally designed to slip out of your hand. Earlier today I removed my 1.5yo SE2 from it's soft grippy plastic shell for it's annual cleaning and the phone slipped right out of my hand because I forgot how smooth they are and how tight you have to hold it.
I am disappointed that Apple is getting rid of the last of their small form factor phones. I'm don't need to carry a phablet just to call, txt, email, make a groc
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Get a decent case dude.
Trust me. I've broken so many goddamn phones from fumble fingering them, having them drop out my pocket into pints of beer, having my cat knock them off tables, etc etc, once upon a time a phone would last 2 years for me and by the end have a screen that looked like a drunkards windscreen.
AAaaand then I , reluctantly, brought a decent leather case for my phone and 4 years later I still have that phone, with a non-cracked perfectly intact screen. Hell, thanks to modern lithium batterie
Black magic (Score:2)
When it comes to some of these RF chips, it sure seems like whatever they do is black magic or something. When you consider the talent that Apple has in chip design now, and the tools in this day and age allowing chip design and simulation virtually, it's really something that so few can reproduce what Qualcomm has done.
I do know that even with much, much lower-frequency RF devices, it required extremely exacting design for things to function optimally. For example, if you had 8 leads running from one chip
Too large, 13 mini better (Score:2)
The latest SE is larger than the 13 mini. And not as good.
So I opted for the 13 mini.
The old SE was great because it was so small.
Not everyone wants a 17" phone.
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