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Chattanooga, Tennessee offers America's First Community-Wide 25 Gig Internet Service (chattanoogan.com) 28

Posted by BeauHD from the cutting-edge-speeds dept.
Continuing the focus on delivering the world's fastest internet speeds that led Chattanooga's municipal utility to launch America's first comprehensively available Gig-speed internet service (2010) and the first 10-Gig internet service (2015), EPB has launched the nation's first community-wide 25 gigabits per second (25,000 Mbps) internet service. Chattanoogan reports: It is set to be available to all residential and commercial customers over a 100 percent fiber optic network with symmetrical upload and download speeds. Through a partnership with Hamilton County and the city of Chattanooga, the Chattanooga-Hamilton County Convention Center is EPB's first 25 Gig customer, making it the first convention center worldwide to offer such blazingly fast speeds over a broadband network. With this technology, the Convention Center will be able to simultaneously provide high bandwidth connectivity to thousands of smart devices to draw business conferences, e-gaming competitions, live streaming events and more.

Hamilton County and the city of Chattanooga have each dedicated $151,000 in infrastructure funding for a total of $302,000 to cover the cost of installing new networking equipment and Wi-Fi access points throughout the convention center as well as much of the cost of providing multi-gig connectivity for the next five years. Once the new equipment is installed, visitors will be able to benefit from high-speed connectivity throughout the facility.
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  • Uplink (Score:3)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:55PM (#62819829)

    >"EPB has launched the nation's first community-wide 25 gigabits per second (25,000 Mbps) internet service."

    The local connection to the ISP has nothing to do with the ISP's uplink capacity to the rest of the Internet, which is limited and shared. So it might seem impressive with only a few customers on it, but I doubt the ISP has 100,000 gigabit upward interconnect to scale it much.

    Could be really wild for in-community stuff, though!

    • what is the split ratio? on the fiber?

      • what is the split ratio? on the fiber?

        Its 25G PON, so I think they'd be stupid not to use the max 1:128. If everyone was maxing out the bandwidth simultaneously on the port, they'd still get over 100Mbps (unlikely you'd have that many users maxing out simultaneously). Also, I'm pretty sure 25G PON's uplink is 25G but the max ONU is 10G, so a single client would never be able to use 25G.

      • I run servers off there business class and yes it is that fast. Those backwords hicks don't know the light bulb and indoor plumbing or worth having but man is there internet nice.

        • I wonder if those backwords hicks (sic) know the difference between their and there?

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by drnb ( 2434720 )

          I run servers off there business class and yes it is that fast. Those backwords hicks don't know the light bulb and indoor plumbing or worth having but man is there internet nice.

          Those backward hicks helped electrify the nation before WW2 and helped bring nuclear power to the nation post WW2. And they are using quite a few wind turbines these days too.

          • Re: (Score:1)

            by mm4902 ( 3612009 )
            We can talk about how the Romans built a highly advanced plumbing system but their descendents are not impressing anyone.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by drnb ( 2434720 )

              We can talk about how the Romans built a highly advanced plumbing system but their descendents are not impressing anyone.

              Those backward hicks are still contributing to technology and infrastructure, unlike the Roman Empire.

    • All that aside, most residential customers have a router that won't do more than 1gig across the backplane, and at small packet sizes it'll be closer to half that. Aside from a few power users that picked up some second hand Pro gear most people don't have a chance of touching a 10 gig service and I doubt the ISPs edge devices would support more than 1gig ethernet anyhow.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Bert64 ( 520050 )

      Depends on what you're doing...
      For things which work peer to peer (torrents, gaming, calls etc) you can have local peers so the traffic never leaves the network. Of course we need proper deployment of IPv6 to avoid NAT killing p2p.
      A lot of content is cached, so it gets delivered from local servers.
      For people working from home who live nearby, they can VPN to the office over the local network at high speed too.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      10G and 20G connections have been available in Japan for a few years. While it's true that most websites can't serve data that fast, often ISPs have local caches for things like Steam games and streaming video. Some of them co-locate with CDNs. They also push 8k TV (with 22.2 channel surround sound) over the same fibre.

    • You can only fix what's local to you. Good job building for the future, here. Extra capacity at the edge, ready to grow. THIS is what we as a country should be doing, everywhere. You're never in a million years, going to get Comcast or Charter to replace their aging coax-based infrastructure. We ned a national push to build FTTH for the future.

      Of course, we need the roads, bridges and water systems first. :-(

      • What we need is competition in the local space. THAT is what has allowed single monopolies to get away with such lousy service, performance, and pricing.

    • Most people aren't all maxing their connection at the same time, so outside of peak hours, it's probable they'll still get pretty good speeds.

  • Let's revive the peer-to-peer Internet (Score:5, Interesting)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @06:21PM (#62819947)
    What is this much upstream good for? Well maybe it's not needed but it could support a revival of the Internet's earlier peer-to-peer vision. I have self-hosted a website, email server, and Nextcloud all this time on Comcast and it's a real pain with dynamic IP, port blocking, slow upstream... it's just not set up for it. With the right software and home servers could we not decentralize what has become a monolithic Internet where everybody just expects to rely on a few companies for everything? Not sure, but unrestricted fast upstream bandwidth would at least allow an effort to be made.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Bert64 ( 520050 )

      It's worse than that, a lot of newer providers can't even give you a routable IP. You are behind CGNAT so it's simply not possible to host anything.
      Until the whole world moves to IPv6, it's only going to get more and more centralized.

  • Government could never provide Internet that is as fast as the private sector!! Let alone faster!! It must be fake news, don't believe it!

    • Government could never provide Internet that is as fast as the private sector!! Let alone faster!! It must be fake news, don't believe it!

      The same ones [imgur.com] whining about socialism have very short memories [imgur.com].

    • The EPB is run like a corporation. EPB fi was paid for with a bond issue. Profits from the enterprise paid for the service and pay for upgrades. They're making money off it.

      These are not tax dollars at work.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by mm4902 ( 3612009 )
      Lol, the government is representative, it reflects the altruism, intelligence, and fortitude of the American people. It also reflects the ignorance, hatred, and hubris of the American people. The government isn't great right now because the average opinion of an American citizen is that the government shouldn't be great. ~"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

  • This is the way.

  • I don't have anything that runs over 1Gb, but does that make it too fast? No. It means that if I had that, I would be ready as new equipment becomes available. 25 Gb requires Cat-8 wiring (as does 40 Gb), so if you think you might be getting those speeds, it would mean running Cat-8 for at least the runs to the switch and access points (for WiFi 7, it can use 2.5 Gb, who knows for WiFi 8).

    As to having symmetric up speed, that's awesome. I have Fios, and having symmetric up speed means getting good VPN p

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Zak3056 ( 69287 )

      If you're running category 8 cabling, you're doing things horribly wrong. Unless you're in Germany (where category F cabling is pretty much required) or have an application specific need for shielded cabling, anything beyond Cat6a is waste. If you have a need for speeds >10Gbe then you should be using OS2. If you have a need for 2.5Gbe/5Gbe, Cat5e is rated for 100m.

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