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The iPhone 12 Mini Was Apple's 2020 Sales Flop (arstechnica.com) 73

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Bad news for lovers of smaller phones: the iPhone 12 mini has sold poorly compared to other phones in the iPhone 12 lineup -- poorly enough that analysts wonder whether Apple will remain committed to the smaller phone design moving forward. A data firm called Counterpoint Research found that the iPhone 12 mini accounted for just 5 percent of overall sales from the company's smartphone lineup in early January. And J.P. Morgan analyst William Yang told Reuters that screens under 6 inches now account for only 10 percent of smartphones sold industry-wide.

The data from Counterpoint is not the first to tell this story. Consumer Intelligence Research Partners (CIRP) broke down iPhone 12 lineup sales in detail last month. They found that the iPhone 12 Pro and 12 Pro Max made up about 20 percent of sales from the larger iPhone 12 lineup during the launch window, while the non-Pro, 6.1-inch iPhone 12 accounted for 27 percent. But they also said the iPhone 12 mini "likely disappointed Apple" with only 6 percent of sales during the period measured -- pretty close to the number Counterpoint shared a couple of months later.

While all this data shows that the iPhone 12 mini has underperformed, it doesn't tell us why. According to CIRP's data, the also-small iPhone SE performed a little better (likely due to its significantly lower price) but it still didn't make up a huge chunk of sales. So while it's possible that the iPhone 12 mini's slow sales are partially a result of cannibalization by the cheaper SE, small phones are clearly not doing well in general. There are a lot of reasons small phones are less popular now. For one thing, users are consuming more rich media content. Many people watch as much TV and film on their phones as they do on their TVs now, and some social media platforms like TikTok and Snapchat are focused on rich media that may be more enjoyable to some on a larger display. But if anything, these sales numbers make the future of one-handed smartphones look even dimmer than before.

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  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @06:53PM (#61045668)

    There are a lot of reasons small phones are less popular now. For one thing, users are consuming more rich media content.

    Outside of the content angle, a big reason why people may have not opted for smaller phones as much as they might have is - if you are not going anywhere, size of phone is way less important. If it doesn't have to fit in a small packet on the go, or a purse then when not have a bit larger phone.

    Also - it was not really possible to feel how small the phone was. If you are just comparing phones online, it could well have been that a smaller phone that felt great in the hand, just seemed kind of pointless looking at specs on a web browser.

    Maybe tastes have just shifted though, and people are mostly just eager to have as large a phone as it is possible to have.

    • Also - it was not really possible to feel how small the phone was. If you are just comparing phones online, it could well have been that a smaller phone that felt great in the hand, just seemed kind of pointless looking at specs on a web browser.

      If only there was a way for someone to get a feel for the phone before buying it rather than having to rely on a small, insignificant picture in a web browser. Some way to get your hands on the phone and gauge its weight, its size, how it operates.

      I guess we'll neve

      • If only there was a way for someone to get a feel for the phone before buying it

        There normally is but was not in 2020. Maybe where you live nothing was shut down, but almost everywhere in the U.S. at least was mostly shut down because of Covid. Even now, I don't know if you can go into an Apple Store to examine products.

        That lack of physical ability to try different sizes could easily lead to lower sales for something that might have been more popular.

    • by leonbev ( 111395 )

      I think that a lot of people had extra money in their pockets during the pandemic, thanks to the economic stimulus checks and lower commuting costs thanks to working from home. For those folks, the extra $200 for the Pro model probably wasn't a big stretch.

      • I think that a lot of people had extra money in their pockets during the pandemic,

        Between that and not being able to go out to eat/drink as much, or travel... great point that people had more money so could go fo ra pro phone they might not have otherwise with competing budgetary concerns.

    • I agree, and indeed the need to upgrade at all is somewhat diminished as you're probably not taking as many photos, nor do you need your phone to store music to listen to right now - and maybe you don't even need your phone as much as you do when you're sat on public transport for hours on end.

      However, the most glaring reason (to me) is that I don't remember ever seeing anything about the "mini"!? Usually when Apple farts there are a slew of slick TV adverts, EE trots out Kevin Bacon to talk about it for th

    • Also - it was not really possible to feel how small the phone was.

      I had to go out to Best Buy recently and finally had a chance to hold one. The mini will be my next phone. I forgot how great it was to hold a phone that doesn't feel like it's about to hop out of my hand or require finger contortions to use with one hand.

  • This year wasn't an upgrade year for me, so I skipped it. But the only phone I wanted out of the lineup was the 12 mini, and it would be replacing a comparatively huge iPhone XR.

    If Apple discontinues the 12 mini next year, I'll buy it from someone used rather than buy yet another phone that's larger than I want. Portability is my main concern—I want a phone that fits easily in my cycling jersey or saddle bag. I use the phone for communication, and that sort of thing is fine for me on small screens. I

  • I have the SE2 and was going to probably get the 13 mini if it also supported fingerprint unlock. (yes I'm that ugly).

    However this is probably the only time I'm hoping that Apple ignores the Analysts and for once keeps bringing out a small phone. I have no idea if they will since they do a lot of (IMHO) stupid stuff (like killed the 11" air).

    Of course the competition will follow Apples lead so maybe we'll have some decent small Android phones in the future.

    (and yes I know that the copy the competition go

  • by mccalli ( 323026 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @06:55PM (#61045680) Homepage
    It not only competes with the SE, it was released too close to it as well. People buying the SE don't seem to be buy-every-year types (as evidenced by the fact they were holding on to their original SEs) so...yeah. Nice phone. Wrong time.
    • Not only that, the release schedule was just stupid. I was holding on to my SE awaiting another small phone and when the new SE wasn't small i just caved on getting a "larger" device.

      Had the mini been known when the SE2 was released at least I would've waited (and bought a more expensive device). And i know of other people with "small hands" that were also holding on to their old SE phones.

      Sure this is entirely anecdotal but people with smaller hands that actually want to use their phone with one hand exist
      • by ixs ( 36283 )

        Amen!

        I really do not like the big phones. I was very happy with my SE but it was getting a bit long in the tooth. So when they announced the SE2 which was much larger than I liked, I hestitated a bit but then bit the bullet. Ordered the 256GB version in April.
        It's still larger than I want, but didn't had much choice.
        And in October they release the phone I would have wanted.

        Yeah, sorry. Not buying the 12, I already got a phone earlier the same year.
        Maybe the 13...

  • smaller != mini (Score:3, Interesting)

    by holophrastic ( 221104 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @06:56PM (#61045682)

    There's no doubt that bigger screens are better. Given any size display, ten percent bigger is always better.

    No one chooses a mini phone because we want a smaller screen.

    The benefits of a smaller phone have absolutely nothing to do with the screen. The screen is the sacrifice.

    I've been using a tiny phone for five years. Just bought a modern jam-like-brand tiny phone, the size of a credit card.

    The benefits are enormous. But they only exist because the phone is exceptionally small. Two inch screen.

    What's the biggest thing in your pants?

    The correct answer is: my wallet.

  • Bad Timing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by WankerWeasel ( 875277 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @06:58PM (#61045694)
    The iPhone SE had been released earlier in the year and really undercuts the mini on pricing. The mini only slots in there for people that want the performance but not the size.
    • Performance to do what? If you aren't playing games or watching video there aren't many apps that are cpu constrained.
  • Was it even intended to be just as popular as the larger phones?

    You might well ask, why don't manufacturers build just one model of phone which is what they think a phone should be? The obvious answer is because not everyone has the same idea of what a phone should be. It's a question of market segmentation. Where are the sales coming from? People who would have bought a different iPhone if this one weren't offered, or people who would have bought a small Android phone?

    Not every product has to be a smash

  • when you consider most of the free Apple phones carriers "give away" to their customers are IPhone Minis.

  • It cost too much compared to the SE.

  • We constantly hear on Slashdot how these device makers are forcing large phones with feature x ever thinner, and more fragile down the unwilling throats of the users and yet here we are, once again showing that the free market provides alternatives and that people don't want them.

    • Either that or the marketing people aren't really listening and haven't put the right combination of features into the 'small phone'.

      • Yeah. Consumers want a small phone with a big screen, that is edge to edge clear glass while also being indestructible covered with ports everywhere, except not the ports we currently use because they break, a replaceable battery which they will never replace, a headphone jack with bundled BLE 5.0 headphones, and a camera with a 1-1000mm lens and goddamn if there's more than one lens visible on the device they will rage.

        Also it has to come in gold, platinum, needs to be shiny but somewhat matte, completely

  • Fuck small. Go rugged and I'm in.
    • Fuck small. Go rugged and I'm in.

      If you don't care about bulk, you should have been "in" long ago.

      Wrap it in an Otterbox Defender and go. I've yet to break a phone in one. 3 phones, 7~ years, not even a crack.

    • Fuck small. Go rugged and I'm in.

      Thankyou singular person. May we suggest a case? Or maybe a rugged Android phone, the market which has shown quite definitively that rugged phones don't sell well?

  • Apple tried to call it "mini" to emphasize the larger screens as the new normal. What they didn't do is make it clear that "mini" just means the same old size as always and not a new smaller form factor.

  • by pond0123 ( 784875 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @07:09PM (#61045728) Homepage

    I have to wonder what planet analysts are on most of the time, or perhaps more importantly, why anyone listens to them.

    I was waiting to upgrade my original SE. And waiting. And waiting, and waiting some more. And finally, the most crappy, lazy-arse bag of crap ever arrives in the form of the "SE 2" - which was just the iPhone 6 form factor, several years on. The very same form factor I had explicitly not purchased in favour of the more compact SE, way-back-when.

    So, I gave up. With the SE 2, Apple signalled that they weren't doing small factor phones anymore. I didn't want some half-arsed iPhone 6-like effort, big chassis and small screen; got a 2nd hand 11 Pro, because then I'd at least have OLED and half-decent cameras (in practice they're marred by unbelievably aggressive noise reduction and most of the time the results are inferior to my much older SE in detail, even if far superior in tone/HDR). It's too big and heavy but it looked like I had no alternative and at the battery life is epic.

    Next minute, 12 Mini turns up out of nowhere. Once again - thanks analysts - predicting for years that SE 2 was happening; wrong, wrong, wrong again; then missing the 12 Mini until it was almost released, and only spotting it from factory leaks a few weeks prior AFAICT.

    If there's still a high spec Mini after 3-4 years of lifetime I'm expecting from my absurdly overpriced 11 Pro, then I'll "upgrade" to that. For now, I've already spent more than is sane on Tim Cook's ever-increasingly-expensive shiny stuff and although the hardware is good, the software seems to get worse by the month with macOS and iOS now so buggy, cumbersome, inconsistent, ugly and all-round irritating that moving to Android before the next phone update seems almost inevitable.

    • What the heck are you talking about? Are you high? The mini is smaller than the iphone 6-8 size, and the same power as the standard iPhone 12.

      It's not like nobody bought the 12 mini because there weren't enough rumors ahead of time about it ahead of time.

      The phone isn't selling that well and it seems most people don't want it (although 5% of a very large number shows there are people who do).

      • What the heck are you talking about? Are you high? The mini is smaller than the iphone 6-8 size, and the same power as the standard iPhone 12.

        I think you need to re-read my comment again, as you've wildly misunderstood and at no point did I ever say or suggest that the Mini is a large device. I think you're forgetting that iPhone SE 2nd gen exists.

        TL;DR: iPhone SE small & good. Waited for SE 2. SE 2 arrives, but it's iPhone 6 size, so not small at all. People bought the SE 1st gen when iPhone 6-sized devices were on sale because they didn't want something iPhone 6-sized. So I gave up waiting, since Apple's many-year-awaited SE successor turns

    • I have to wonder what planet analysts are on most of the time, or perhaps more importantly, why anyone listens to them.

      If analysts knew what they were doing, they'd be doing instead of guessing.

  • The 12 mini may have been the worst selling iPhone, but it still made more profit than all the other handset makers except Samsung - combined.

  • If it's selling badly, how about reducing the price? Seems to be the same as forever ($729) on StraightTalk.

  • Is Apple unhappy? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @07:50PM (#61045868)
    First, six percent of all sales is an awful lot of money. A lot of it is money that Apple wouldn't have got if they didn't sell this phone.

    But what a clever company cares about is not how much they sold of each device, but the total. And lots of people go to stores because they want to buy a phone with a small screen. And in the store they see a phone with a big screen and end up buying that. But the small screen got them into the store in the first place. By giving customers a choice, they increase the total number of sales.

    You could see that to an extreme with the first MacBook Air. It was beautifully light. It also cost more compared to what it delivered than other MacBooks. It brought people in the store, and then they bought something else. A good deal for Apple.
  • How do the numbers add up? 20% for Pro, Pro max, 27% for 12, 6% for mini - the way it is written suggests that this is the % of the sale of the 12 line up so this is the complete list, but it adds to only 53% Or do they, despite the phrasing, include the 11/SE/XR or whatever else was being sold?
  • by SvnLyrBrto ( 62138 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @08:41PM (#61046012)

    I've been pretty annoyed at the ever-growing size of phones these last several years myself. To my mind, if it can fit comfortably in my front hip pocket, it's too damn big. And I really liked the size of the 12 mini. I would have bought it instead of my Pro too, if Apple hadn't decided to cripple it by leaving off the long-distance camera. (Well, they left off the LIDAR too. But I have not had a use for that yet. The third camera is very handy though.) And I would be happy to upgrade to a 13 or 14 mini if they still release them and of they deign to launch them full-featured.

    I just don't get the attitude Apple adopted a while back that people who buy the small iPhones/MacBooks do so only because (they presume) we can't afford the large ones, not because we prefer small. But it's goddamned annoying. I want full-featured kit, dammit. But the whole point of portable devices like phones and laptops is... well... portability. So I want them as small as possible too. I just don't want them crippled because they wrongly assume I'm too poor to buy the big-screened versions. *sigh*

  • by slacktide ( 796664 ) on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @08:48PM (#61046036)
    I like small phones, specifically because I can comfortably use them one-handed. I don't watch video on my phone, but I frequently chat while multitasking. My previous phone was an original SE that I managed to nurse along from release day until the 12 Mini was released. By the end, the battery would last around 80% of a day and I was perpetually out of storage space. Although it has higher specs than the SE, the mini is a more annoying device to live with for a few reasons:

    1 - Battery life is just abysmal for a brand new phone. The mini, brand new, just barely lasts as long as my 5 year old beater SE. In two years I expect that I will have to replace the battery to be able to continue using it.
    2 - The edge-to-edge screen is pretty and all, but between the larger screen size and the slightly larger chassis size, one handed use can be perilous when reaching for the top left corner. I would have been just fine if they had skipped the notch and went with a larger top/bottom bezel. "Being Small" should be the mini's core competency, and it fails at it.
    3 - I have never taken so many accidental screenshots in my life. Why move the power button from the top to the side?
    4 - I have a bunch of high end headphones and I HATE having to use a friggin dongle to make them work. But I guess that's the whole industry now. Get off my lawn.
    5 - I've had two store gift cards get their stripe erased by the Magsafe connector magnets. I assume my credit cards have also had their stripes erased, but the only place that I know that still uses a stripe reader is the gas station, and I haven't had to fill up in months. I don't even use the magsafe charger, because it's a lot more annoying than a generic Qi charging pad without magnets.

    The 5G is nice and fast fast (110MBPS sustained downloads on AT&T), but only useful on the rare times I tether to my laptop. All I really wanted was a device with original SE form factor, more memory and a better battery. The new camera is pretty sweet, but I would have been just fine with a single lens version. I never use the wide angle function.
    • 1. I've switched from my old beater iphone SE and the battery life has been great. Lasts 1-3 days depending on usage.
      2. Agreed, the lack of bezels while pretty aren't necessary and makes it difficult to use with a single hand (the primary selling point)
      3. Linked to the bezels, they probably didn't have enough room due to extending the screen to the top.
      4. Sadly, that's just any new iphones
      5. Partially disagree, it's wonderful that you don't have to hunt around to make sure it's connected and chargin
    • That accidental screenshot problem is endemic to all iPhones right now. It's a terrible design decision.

  • Let Apple sheeple waste their mobey on thin, fragile phablets.
    Normal people still buy small, convenient, rugged phones .

  • It flopped because it's larger than the SE, and mini phone lovers want the SE size. You can use an SE easily with one hand. You cannot use an iPhone 12 Mini with one hand very well.
  • I keep seeing people looking at videos without rotating their phones, loosing so much space. Drives me mad. If these nitwits are the one responsible for "bigger screens are better", we're doomed. (Sony Compact lineup fan here) I mean : use smartly what is available instead of getting more ! This applies to screen size and to everything else. Does this f**-up mindset explain earth pollution state ? well, maybe.
  • 5% of apple's sales is nothing to scoff at and hardly a flop.

  • How could this be called a flop? Oh no, customers up-sold themselves to the bigger-margin models, poor Apple. Apple made money on the product, I'm sure, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 12 mini by itself was more profitable than most of the Android market.

  • I wonder if maybe Apple should FACE the reason more people aren't buying phones you have to unlock with your face during a pandemic when you're probably wearing a mask on your face most of the time you're out using your phone. I specifically bought three new SE's for my family and skipped all the 12's (and the X's) because of TouchID. At the rate things are going, I may well be wearing a face mask during most of the life time of this phone. The number one buying decision on this phone was being able to u
  • I have an iPhone 7 and would like the 12 mini... but not at the price of $700 (retail) and not during a pandemic when my employer's revenue has dropped 75%. I'll go ahead and suggest that most people are make at least slightly more expense-conscious decisions during the pandemic and resulting recession.

    Hell, I'd be happy with an upgrade to the new iPhone SE (only $400), but I'm not looking to spend even that on an unnecessary expense until the recession levels out for me.

  • It's not like you could talk to people who purchased the iPhone 12....I guess will never solve the mystery...
  • Without knowing how many units Apple had targeted to sell it is hard to say whether it was a flop for Apple,

    One thing I do feel Apple got wrong is that they released too many variants of the iPhone 12. When Steve Jobs returned to Apple the first thing he did was thin the product line and refocus. It almost feels like Apple has forgotten how that helped and instead trying to dilute its offering with the number of variants it is trying to sell of the iPhone.

  • Departure of SJ is kicking in. Now watch apple stock go down. Especially with the crazy venture with Kia. Glad I don't own apple!

  • iPhone 12 mini was estimated to be 5% of all iPhone 12 sales. Is that bad? Is that good? What number was Apples expecting? Is it large enough that 5% would be a disappointment?

  • I like the iPhone mini. But want too versions. The stripped version. Single front, single back camera, ID reader on the power button. Priced like an SE with SE feature set.

    Then the iPhone mini Pro. All the features, less battery life.

    Both need one special feature that Apple could negotiate with the carriers. E-Sim clone mode. Where the mini is a clone using the same number as your regular iPhone. The idea is when out for some occasion, take the mini. When out working take the normal one. Maybe cover it
  • I got one to replace my iPhone 6 because it was the first significant improvement that would fit in my shirt pocket. The new phone is faster and the battery lasts about twice as long (although, the battery in the iPhone 6 was close to needing replacement). I guess I won't be replacing it any time soon.

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