The OnePlus 8 Pro Has a 120Hz Screen, Quadruple Camera, and Costs $899 (theverge.com) 98
OnePlus today launched the OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8 Pro today. Both are powered by Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon 865 chipset, but it's the larger OnePlus 8 Pro that comes with the big display and camera improvements. OnePlus worked a 90Hz display into the OnePlus 7 Pro last year, and that's jumping up to 120Hz for 2020. From a report: It's a jump that puts it on par with Samsung's latest Galaxy S20. OnePlus is using a 6.78-inch QHD+ display on the OnePlus 8 Pro, and the 120Hz display will help with smoother animations, scrolling, and general navigation in Android. OnePlus has even added sensors at the front and back of the display for improved automatic brightness. The other big upgrade this year is the new quadruple camera system. OnePlus is using a 48-megapixel main camera, alongside a 48-megapixel ultra-wide lens, a telephoto lens, and a color filter camera. The ultra-wide lens includes a 120-degree angle, and the telephoto supports 3x hybrid, and 30x digital zoom.
[...] The camera and the screen might be the big upgrades, but OnePlus has also improved the internals. Inside there's up to 12GB of LPDDR5 RAM, up to 256GB of UFS 3.0 storage, and Wi-Fi 6 support. OnePlus is also including an IP68 rating for the OnePlus 8 Pro, meaning it should be dust resistant and be dunked in up to 1.5 meters of water for up to 30 minutes. [...] OnePlus is planning to launch both the OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8 Pro in the US on April 29th, and April 21st in Europe. The regular OnePlus 8 will be priced at $699 for an 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage model, and $799 for a 12GB of RAM and 256GB of storage option. The OnePlus 8 Pro will come in two prices: $899 for 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage or $999 for 12GB of RAM and 256GB of storage.
[...] The camera and the screen might be the big upgrades, but OnePlus has also improved the internals. Inside there's up to 12GB of LPDDR5 RAM, up to 256GB of UFS 3.0 storage, and Wi-Fi 6 support. OnePlus is also including an IP68 rating for the OnePlus 8 Pro, meaning it should be dust resistant and be dunked in up to 1.5 meters of water for up to 30 minutes. [...] OnePlus is planning to launch both the OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8 Pro in the US on April 29th, and April 21st in Europe. The regular OnePlus 8 will be priced at $699 for an 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage model, and $799 for a 12GB of RAM and 256GB of storage option. The OnePlus 8 Pro will come in two prices: $899 for 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage or $999 for 12GB of RAM and 256GB of storage.
And I wont buy it (Score:5, Insightful)
1: Because its a ChiCom spying device.
2: Phones that cost as much as laptops are stupid at any rate.
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1: Because its a ChiCom spying device.
2: Phones that cost as much as laptops are stupid at any rate.
The last laptop I bought was under $300. So umm 3 laptops worth of phone.
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Phones that cost as much as laptops are stupid at any rate.
No shit. I'll wait till I can get a beat-up one on eBay for seventy bucks, like the Moto Z2 Force I picked up last year.
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Remember how OnePlus One was $300 and was basically feature identical to other flagships? Granted those are more expensive nowadays too, but not three times more.
It's time to "disrupt" the phone market once again.
I'm crowdfunding a new, back-to-basics smartphone. It will have a fast OLED screen, a headphone jack, wireless charging, and more space than a Nomad. Paypal me $299 now for an early-backer discount on your phone.
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Andy? I know that's you.
Better luck with this venture, and PLEASE try to cut back on the rape this time around.
Pixel 3a (Score:4, Interesting)
Pixel 3a was released a year ago with 400 dollar MSRP. In November, the price dropped below 300, and that's when I picked mine. What can I say about it? It has a great screen and camera, just like most smartphones out there, it has more processing power and RAM than what most people need, it gets a security update every month for two-three years, and the price is more than right. Now some people will say 64GB of storage and no sd slot is not enough, but I believe the 2020 model will have more storage.
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I don't know, lots of kids these days are on their phones 6-10 hours daily, I don't know how they do it but there you go. If they can afford it it's really their business whether or not a high end phone is worth it.
My own phone was a high end model too, it'll receive major OS upgrades for 5 years and security updates for another year thereafter so it doesn't seem that stupid to me. If I wanted to it has good resale value too.
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I'm not a kid but I use my phone a fair bit, so it's worth spending a few bucks on a good one.
Checking the reviews this phone is top notch. Camera is finally up there with the competition, it's got wireless charging, big battery, 120Hz, good OS and support... Could easily last 5+ years.
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I have a OnePlus One which is 5 years old and still gets security updates.
Re:And I wont buy it (Score:5, Insightful)
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The headphone jack ship sailed a couple years ago, chum. You're gonna have to let it go. Same with the SD card. None of these manufacturers are going to change their minds, no matter how many times you post here.
Like, don't buy them if you don't want to, but stop mentioning these things like anyone actually cares other than you and 8 other very vocal people.
Re:And I wont buy it (Score:5, Insightful)
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Nokia/HMD still makes phones with both, and from what I know, their sales are quite good for a company that basically started from a scratch a couple of years ago.
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I'll give this to them: apparently they turned a (small) profit last year, so they're doing better than a lot of other handset makers. But we're talking 2-3 million phones per quarter and a yearly profit of something like 20 million euros. But I wouldn't exactly call that a smashing success when 1.36 *billion* phones were shipped in 2019.
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Many of us do care, and those of us that do, don't care that you don't. And if our posts bother you, all the better.
Re:And I wont buy it (Score:5, Interesting)
You're gonna have to let it go.
Why? There are plenty of phones with headphone jack. For example, Moto G series, Pixel 3a and 4a, Samsung Galaxy A50. It's actually kind of funny that all budget phones with a headphone jack, but phones costing close to 1000 dollars don't. It just proves this lack of 3.5mm jack is some kind of sick fashion fad, just 1000 dollar smartphones.
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It just proves this lack of 3.5mm jack is some kind of sick fashion fad, just 1000 dollar smartphones.
Of course it's a fashion trend. Someone who buys a $300 budget phone is likely to plug in a $20 set of headphones. Someone with a $1000 phone is likely to wirelessly pair a $300 set of headphones. There are few people out there that run around with headphones worth more than their phones, and even fewer who "run around" with expensive wired headphones.
I used to think like you, then I realised the only time I used my headphone jack was in the gym, and 4 times I sent the phone flying across the room. I solve
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You're giving completely wrong justifications for the lack of headphone jack. First of all, I went to gym for many years, before the pandemic, and used wired headphones with no problems at all. After many years of gymming, I threw my phone on the floor maybe only twice because of the headphones. Having said that, gym is actually good example of a setting were we can conceede that BT headphone could work better for _some_ people. However, the usability and reliability of bluetooth tech remains GARBAGE. It's
Re:And I wont buy it (Score:4, Informative)
Not buying either. I've no problem dropping $1k on a phone, max $1.5k, but the lack of headphones, SD card and removable battery are becoming deal breakers for me. The first is just personal, as I much prefer normal headphones to the wireless ones. I don't even have expensive ones I don't want to give up, just the free ones that come with the phone. Second and third are because I work in real estate. Transferring a few GB by usb is painful. And running out of battery is an absolute disaster. My favourite phone was my Note2. Several days battery, custom ROM, and I could switch battery in an emergency in seconds.
Rather than buy the Note 20, I am thinking dropping down from my current phone to one that has those features. Wait until the next gen that has a great low light camera.
Phillip.
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2: Phones that cost as much as laptops are stupid at any rate.
You obviously don't buy Apple laptops.
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Yes to number 1 and yes to number 2.
I won't be buying another OnePlus...currently have a one Plus 7. Decent phone, just too much spyware on the thing.
Its really ridiculous looking at wahat this thing is doing with a packet sniffer.
Yeah, very "ChiCom", that Alphabet corporation! (Score:2)
Were in China, then I would never buy a Chinese phone. Call me when you found one though. One word: Foxconn.
But outside of China, yeah, I'm sorry, ... as nuts as China's leadership is ... and I don't disagree with you one bit there ... your US leadership and even society manages to be even less trustworthy! As is well-documented, by real actual evidence, rememeber?
You're like when the Iranians chose Khomeini because *even he* was still the lesser of two evils compared to the puppet dictator you had installe
If it's your primary computing device (Score:2)
And everything's made in China except the processors. You're pretty much boned either way. If they want to own you they'll own you.
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2: Phones that cost as much as laptops are stupid at any rate.
A device's value is based on its utility to the user. I spend far more time daily with my phone than my laptop. The only reason my laptop is worth more than my phone is for edge use cases that require it to be expensive, otherwise the value of most people's phone is a lot higher than their laptop.
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2: Phones that cost as much as laptops are stupid at any rate.
A device's value is based on its utility to the user. I spend far more time daily with my phone than my laptop. The only reason my laptop is worth more than my phone is for edge use cases that require it to be expensive, otherwise the value of most people's phone is a lot higher than their laptop.
People's perception of value is often flawed due to addiction. Take yours for example. Between the two devices, I highly doubt it's your phone that actually creates value in the form of a paycheck. It's merely your perception of value that allows you to treat it as The Precious, placing it far above every other device in your life.
Call it whatever you want. Nope, doesn't matter how "mainstream" it is. We're all addicts.
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Why did you arbitrarily narrow my definition of value. Not everything is about money, or a paycheck. Some things are about happiness. Your TV remote doesn't create a paycheck, that doesn't mean it's not valuable to you. In fact out of all the things in my house I'm sure I can count on one hand what actually creates value in the form of a paycheck.
Value is 100% perception and entirely in the eye of the person perceiving it. This is why we arbitrarily give away our personal information. It's not valuable to u
Only 4 cameras? (Score:5, Funny)
If it doesn't have at least 7 cameras it must be for old people. Next you'll be telling us it can't stream 8K video at 60 frames.
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30W wireless charging though... Near stock OS, good track record on updates. If they can get the camera to be as good as a Pixel or Huawei it will be one of the best phones available.
I have an original OnePlus One and it's still working well. The hardware is solid.
No such thing as "wireless charging". (Score:3)
You still have to physically lay it onto the charger, which, surprise, *does have a cable*.
The only difference is, that you can't move the phone, lift it up, or hold it to your ear anymore. Even just to lay on the other side in bed.
GENIUS!
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For the low low price of wasting energy to magnetic objects in the vincinity, including your body. (Not really harmful. But stupid.)
Oh, and my phone is watertight and has USB, a headphone jack, and three card slots. (SIM1, SIM2, microSD) [Plugs on a hinge, in case you
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Economic Distance yourself from China (Score:3, Insightful)
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Why, because South Korea is better than China?
Fuck, yes. No opinion on the quality of their phones but as societies you'd want to help prop up? Yep, no comparison.
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Why, because South Korea is better than China?
Yep, it is. Go to South Korea and hold a rally protesting the Government. Now go to China and do the same.
I put them in that order, because if you do it the other way - you'll never get to go from China to South Korea.
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Re: Economic Distance yourself from China (Score:2)
I haven't followed Samsung for a while - I stopped after about the S3 because of the stupid crapware they installed on top of Android.
Have they stopped doing this now? They had some nice features, like that lovely oled screen, and i wouldn't be averse to giving them another try, if they've ditched the crapware and kept the nice hardware.
Re: Economic Distance yourself from China (Score:2)
Huawei and Honor brand phones were very good and had excellent value. In a number of large countries this is number one sold brand. Too bad we can't have them here.
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You can screw yourself out of one of the best phones on the market if you like. Personally I don't hold random Chinese companies to blame for stupid trade wars or whatever other reason you have.
Anyway half of a Samsung phone is made in China and all of an iPhone or Pixel, so are you going to stop buying those too?
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To me, whether or not the phone is ultimately controlled by a Chinese company makes a very big difference in that equation. How many times have we heard about Chinese phones and computers being pre-installed with mal/spy/ad-ware? Unless you explicitly install your own OS, you really don't have ultimate control over your phone, and so its important to choose a company that you at least trust not to subvert your phone in ways that may be detrimental to you.
As a company, OnePlus has already demonstrated that
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Western companies are just as likely to install malware on your phone, usually in the name of DRM or monetisation. How many times have we seen that with games and software too?
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That's classic whataboutism. I've already acknowledged that Western companies are not perfect (and since when is S Korea "western"?), but to claim that they are "just as likely" to install some compromising piece of malware or hidden spyware is just utter nonsense, easily refuted by simply looking at the history of such events. We're talking about phones here with potentially deep security issues. What in the world do games and DRM have to do with this?
Again, I just think the odds of this happening on, s
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But in this case it's not whataboutism because your choice of smartphone is Chinese, Korean or Western. So if malware is your concern then you can't win by avoiding Chinese phones since all the others are just as bad. That is easily established by looking at the history of such things.
Anyway, if you are really paranoid then OnePlus is a good choice because they make enough of their software open source that their phones are always very well supported by Lineage and other custom ROMs. Their Github is here: h [github.com]
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OK, let's give you the benefit of doubt for a moment, and suppose that OnePlus is directly controlled by the Chinese military.
What makes you think that every phone officially sold in the US or EU doesn't suffer from precisely the same level of interference from US/EU intelligence and/or law enforcement agencies?
Frankly, if having my data scraped is inevitable, I'd rather get it scraped by someone who doesn't give a fraction of a shit whether I exist and has zero legal jurisdiction over me, than by someone w
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OK, let's give you the benefit of doubt for a moment, and suppose that OnePlus is directly controlled by the Chinese military.
Are you under the impression that the Chinese military controls China, or are you just deliberately rephrasing my argument in the most ridiculous-sounding way possible to discredit it?
Frankly, if having my data scraped is inevitable, I'd rather get it scraped by someone who doesn't give a fraction of a shit whether I exist and has zero legal jurisdiction over me, than by someone who can quite legally deprive me of life, liberty, and my ability to pursue happiness.
I've heard this argument made before, and I think it falls down in several ways. First and foremost, if you use Google services on Android, you're now offering up stewardship of your private data to both a Chinese company and Google. It's typically not a matter of picking one or the other.
Second, your personal information, i
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The WaPo or NYT (I cannot recall which) had an article on a government lab in Wuhan. The U.S. State Dept. apparently has officials checking on procedures in dangerous labs. They issued several alerts to Washington in 2016-2017 about the procedures at that lab. The way the Chinese are not allowing access to it now and the people who worked there is suspicious.
That said, they were not working on manipulating virus RNA. Rather they were researching viruses that can jump from other critters, including bats, to
*Ba-dum TISS!* (Score:2)
Yeah, Samsung. So you get Foxconn assembled spy hardware AND NSA Android spy software (let alone the baseband's OS!), AND waste about $600-800.
Doubleplusgood!
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Say no to Chinese made products.
Why? There's one thing to be said for buying local, but beyond that I don't give a shit what your country's beef is with another country. Are they spying on me? Probably. Better the Chinese who can't touch me than my own government who are within the realms of possibility of fucking up my life.
What do you buy high end phones for? (Score:3)
A couple of weeks ago I got a Google Pixel 3a for $300. I have never felt the need to buy the latest/greatest/bleeding edge phone, I just don't think I would get benefit from them.
For those of you who do buy the top end phones what do you get from them that you wouldn't get from a mid-range phone?
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Well, I do value photography, so I like to get the best portable phone possible at the time, and have it be good enough to last me for awhile.
I do look for longevity....I only get new phones maybe once every 5-6 years.
I got my current iPhone 6s Plus back in about 2015 I think and will likely get the new 12 coming out (hopefully in the early fall).
This will be a big boost of camera to me,
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I followed that philosophy for a while... but then I modified it somewhat. If it's an Apple computer, generally wait until I can get it from their refurb store. And, with their phones, I buy one generation back. I hang on to tech for a similar length of time as you, though - I'm still using a 6S, and intend to keep using it for at least one more year.
Admittedly, my attitude has been shaped somewhat by my old-guy belief that "things cost too much". But you do still get almost as much bang - for much less buc
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They usually have some emerging technologies a year before they tricle down to the mid range (5G, the latest Wifi and Bluetooth standards...)
But for someone like me which doesn't really
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You miss the point. They are not phones. (Score:2)
They are jewelry.
Pointless ego compensators for people who don't have anything else (and very often think they are losers, deep inside.)
Like poser cars, expensive watches, and all that other crap that plastic people own.
This is one expression of our current anxiety epidemic, that started around 2004, and is still growing. It's also why people bought all the toilet paper and similar crazy reactions, for example. It's the common personality trait between religious fundamentalists, nazis, SJWs, conservatives,
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For those of you who do buy the top end phones what do you get from them that you wouldn't get from a mid-range phone?
Well I used my last high end phone as a gateway drug into VR by simulating a VR headset and streaming graphics via Wifi to the phone which was mounted in a GearVR housing.
I'm not going to lie, the porn was great. I just wish the phone had a better screen, these flagship devices have a long way to go.
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Why does the summary refuse to tell the truth? Is it a tablet? A laptop? A low power desktop? A dildo? A Trump-supporting bot? An exercise bike with a crappy screen where morons yell at you just like so many white people buy? Why refuse to tell the truth
Tell me something "snapsnap", what other new hardware being announced these days has a Snapdragon processor in it? Is directly compared to a "Galaxy S20"? Come advertised with mutiple cameras and supports the Android operating system?
If you're gonna hang out on forums like this, at least pretend to act like a Nerd. We're not here to hold your fucking hand, idiot.
Re: What is this piece of garbage? (Score:2)
What other device is like that?
A tablet?
Oh, basically all the things he listed there. I think that was his point. I get how it can be interpreted as a dumber meaning too, if one is too dumb to get the deeper one.
You're a real voter, aren't you? ^^
(Don't worry. He's too. So you can vote for
Trumpbiden together.)
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What other device is like that?
A tablet?
Oh, basically all the things he listed there. I think that was his point. I get how it can be interpreted as a dumber meaning too, if one is too dumb to get the deeper one.
You're a real voter, aren't you? ^^ (Don't worry. He's too. So you can vote for Trumpbiden together.)
In TFS it was directly compared to a mainstream smartphone, and that "tablet" is boasting a 6" screen?
Sadly, your comment did nothing more than confirm who else needs hand-holding.
Who cares? ... I mean that in a good way. (Score:4, Interesting)
We've come farther than we could've ever dreamed of back in the 80ies. I've got a supercomputer in my pocket that cost's a two-day wage with a camera built in that has a higher resolution and better dynamic range than the most expensive professional camera from 1990 and more processing power than 5000 high-end PCs from my childhood. It's just ten years ago that I got my first touchscreen smartphone - the best smartphone at the time (HTC Desire) and even that only costed 600$.
I'm good and even if the newest OnePlus has 50 megapixels 60fps HDR video with nightvision and macro option I couldn't care less. I don't think I'm ever again going to spend much more than 200 euros on a Smartphone and my Moto G7 Power is still good for a few years.
Good for OnePlus pushing the limits of price-performance, but I'm good. Thanks.
My 2 eurocents.
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that cost's a two-day wage
Not to detract from your point -- which is still valid -- for most people this is much more expensive than that. I think the article is in USD.
$900 / 2 days = $450 / day
$450 / 8 hours = $56.25 / hour
$56.25 / hour = $112,500 / year
Median wage in the US is $31,000 / year. It's about the same in the UK.
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I'm good and even if the newest OnePlus has 50 megapixels 60fps HDR video with nightvision and macro option I couldn't care less. I don't think I'm ever again going to spend much more than 200 euros
That is more a reflection on cost rather than your care of specifications. I'm sure in 10 years you wouldn't consider a phone without a gigapixel 120fps HDR camera with x-ray vision, but you'll still not want to spend over 200EUR for it.
It is always the same. There have always been enthusiast class devices and standard devices. There will always continue to be those. I laugh a lot at people freaking out about the thought of a $1000 phone. I had an Ericsson R380 back in 2000, with it's $700 RRP at the the ti
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Re: Who cares? ... I mean that in a good way. (Score:2)
And it uploads all your private information to the cloud, for sale to advertisers.
I'm guessing this is some sort of PHONE? (Score:2)
Or are beyond calling them phones and just going with "device" now? Because you don't even call it a device, either.
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I think it depends on intended use.
I barely use my "mobile" to talk on as a traditional phone and use them more as portable pocket computers.
The upper-end model even has more memory, higher screen resolutions, etc than a majority of people's computers.
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Nowhere in the write-up do you mention that you are talking about a phone. I'm guessing it probably is because the category is Android, but maybe if people aren't familiar wit OnePlus it would help to use the word just once? Or are beyond calling them phones and just going with "device" now? Because you don't even call it a device, either.
When it comes to solving mysteries on a forum for Nerds, "Android" is about as unknown as "Chevrolet".
You can stop pretending to guess now, and we'll stop pretending you had a point to make.
Re: I'm guessing this is some sort of PHONE? (Score:2)
Android could be anything from a TV to a watch to a fridge to a car to a nuclear submarine nowadays. ;)
"Keep up" (Score:2)
... at raising the bar on overpricing, thinspiration, and adding utterly retarded anti-features and developments that go down the wrongest path imaginable, you mean.
Capitalism at its finest, indeed.
Incrementalism (Score:2)
Not inspiring. Do something truly innovative like an under-display camera or whole-room wireless charging or at least longer distance wireless charging.
Lol, that's a pretty low bar. (Score:2)
How about a fully modular and repairable privacy-guaranteed multisensory augmented reality mobile/wearable personal computer system for <200?
If you now think "...and a pony too!". Give me the money, and I will create it. All that prevents us, is sociopathic corporate greed, and running after retarded flashy bling "trends".
But will it run Crysis? (Score:2)
Oneplus 6... (Score:4, Insightful)
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My wife has dropped her 7t at least 3 times (ok, once she knocked it off the counter, but the other two were dropped - she's clumsy with phones and has broken several screens) onto a tile floor and her ShellBox has protected it so far.
As for the price increase, that is all new phones from all carriers. OnePlus reportedly was working on a third bargain handset, but I suspect rumors of it only having a 4G antennae probably killed it before it was manufactured.
No millimeter-wave (Score:1)
They lost me at low-band-only 5G.
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I take it you don't like pesky things like WALLs then ... --.--
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Picocells.
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I take it you don't like pesky things like WALLs then ... --.--
It seems you don't go outside either. Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.
Better than the previous OnePlus... (Score:2)
A quick glance at the 8 review video and it looks like the screen is curved on the edges. Did I see that right? I thought that was a bad idea when Samsung tried to pull it with the 7 Edge.
No Headphone Jack = nope (Score:3)
Phone makers seem to ignore what people actually want in a phone. Add a analog headphone jack with a good quality audio processor and increase the battery capacity by at least 50%, then it might be close to acceptable.
Slashvertisement space filler noted. (Score:2)
More msmash space filler as usual.
How did this person buy or otherwise make their way into Slashdot with such consistently poor content?
Feature phone era again ... (Score:2)
Except with more pointlessness and less battery life.
All you need is ONE camera. With an optical zoom that extends out. And that can be popped out and replaced if ever broken.
And 120Hz and more than HD is as pointless as 50 inch rims and 12 cylinder motor on a Smart car for grandma.
And no, there are no smartphones over $200. That's called jewelry! The electronics are only in there by accident, so the blinkenlights match those on the freewheel-less brakeless fixie bike.
Everybody seems to learn in the end... (Score:3)
First there was the Nexus line, good performance at reasonable prices. Then Google discovered that people really preferred to pay more for a phone, because elsewhere it seemed like it wasn't good. So they changed track and started making the same phones but at double the price. Success.
Then there was OnePlus. They also started doing really good phones at decent prices, but found again that the market for these was limited to the people that can read specifications and calculate worth, that is, about 4 percent of the population. The rest want to have a good phone, for themselves or more frequently to make a present. And they just go to the store and pick up one in the top 10% of prices, because if it's so expensive it must be good enough. So they saved themselves a whole morning of market research.
After learning that, OnePlus is just another "flagship" company. I wonder whether they have built enough of a brand shine to compete with the other boys. What am I saying? Nobody looks at the brand, if it's expensive it must be good, mustn't it?
Nope! Not a "flagship killer" (Score:1)