Samsung Unveils Galaxy S20, Galaxy S20+, and Galaxy S20 Ultra 154
Samsung today will unveil three new flagship smartphones -- the Galaxy S20, Galaxy S20+, and Galaxy S20 Ultra. Here are the specs of the new phones.
Galaxy S20 specs: Display: 6.2-inch Quad HD+, Dynamic AMOLED 2X (563ppi), and HDR10+ certified. Refresh rate of 120Hz.
Camera: Rear: Triple camera setup. (12MP wide, 64MP tele, and 12MP wide. Hybrid optic zoom 3x. Front: 10MP.
Processor: Exynos 990.
Internal storage: 128GB, with support for microSD of up to 1TB.
RAM: 12GB.
Battery: 4,000 mAh.
Network: Supports LTE and 5G. Galaxy S20+ specs: Display: 6.7-inch Quad HD+, Dynamic AMOLED 2X (525ppi), and HDR10+ certified. Refresh rate of 120Hz.
Camera: Rear: Quadruple camera setup. (12MP wide, 64MP tele, and 12MP wide and a depth sensor. Hybrid optic zoom 3x. Front: 10MP.
Processor: Exynos 990.
Internal storage: 128GB / 512GB, with support for microSD of up to 1TB.
RAM: 12GB.
Battery: 4,500 mAh.
Network: Supports LTE and 5G. Galaxy S20 Ultra specs: Display: 6.9-inch Quad HD+, Dynamic AMOLED 2X (563ppi), and HDR10+ certified. Refresh rate of 120Hz.
Camera: Rear: Quadruple camera setup. (108MP wide, 48MP tele, and 12MP wide with a depth sensor. Hybrid optic zoom 3x and "super resolution zoom up to 100x." Front: 40MP.
Processor: Exynos 990.
Internal storage: 128GB / 512GB, with support for microSD of up to 1TB.
RAM: 12GB.
Battery: 5,000 mAh.
Network: Supports LTE and 5G. The Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra starts at $1,400, while the cheapest Galaxy S20 costs $1,000.
Galaxy S20 specs: Display: 6.2-inch Quad HD+, Dynamic AMOLED 2X (563ppi), and HDR10+ certified. Refresh rate of 120Hz.
Camera: Rear: Triple camera setup. (12MP wide, 64MP tele, and 12MP wide. Hybrid optic zoom 3x. Front: 10MP.
Processor: Exynos 990.
Internal storage: 128GB, with support for microSD of up to 1TB.
RAM: 12GB.
Battery: 4,000 mAh.
Network: Supports LTE and 5G. Galaxy S20+ specs: Display: 6.7-inch Quad HD+, Dynamic AMOLED 2X (525ppi), and HDR10+ certified. Refresh rate of 120Hz.
Camera: Rear: Quadruple camera setup. (12MP wide, 64MP tele, and 12MP wide and a depth sensor. Hybrid optic zoom 3x. Front: 10MP.
Processor: Exynos 990.
Internal storage: 128GB / 512GB, with support for microSD of up to 1TB.
RAM: 12GB.
Battery: 4,500 mAh.
Network: Supports LTE and 5G. Galaxy S20 Ultra specs: Display: 6.9-inch Quad HD+, Dynamic AMOLED 2X (563ppi), and HDR10+ certified. Refresh rate of 120Hz.
Camera: Rear: Quadruple camera setup. (108MP wide, 48MP tele, and 12MP wide with a depth sensor. Hybrid optic zoom 3x and "super resolution zoom up to 100x." Front: 40MP.
Processor: Exynos 990.
Internal storage: 128GB / 512GB, with support for microSD of up to 1TB.
RAM: 12GB.
Battery: 5,000 mAh.
Network: Supports LTE and 5G. The Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra starts at $1,400, while the cheapest Galaxy S20 costs $1,000.
Did they skip a few? (Score:4, Interesting)
I had an original Galaxy S and I'm sure it hasn't been 20 years...
Anyway, specs are nice but no headphone jack. Will wait for iFixIt to see how much of a pain the battery is.
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I had an original Galaxy S and I'm sure it hasn't been 20 years...
Marketing simply decided to go straight to plaid.
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I guess that going to 11 for their latest model number like Apple did wouldn't sound as cool.
Personally, I'm still waiting for the 9000SUX model.
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Re:Did they skip a few? (Score:4, Insightful)
Sales people seem to not like version numbers. Where the general population would want to see them so they can at least judge were we are compared to what is new.
Sales people hate it when their competitors start giving a bigger number such as how Apple decided to skip the iPhone 7S and call it the 8, and what would be the iPhone 8 and call it the X (or 10) . So now Samsung has to make sure their number is just as big or bigger then Apple. Because they think their population is stupid enough to think.
You have an iPhone 11 while I have a Galaxy 10 your iPhone must be better because it is version 11 vs 10.
What sales people really love is giving the newest version cutesy names so unless you care enough to keep up with the naming history, they can sell you the old outdated phone without you knowing.
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It's possible that another stupid thing might be going on:
"Focus groups say that people see Galaxy S9 to Galaxy S10 is an evolutionary change, so they aren't as interested. However if you go from Galaxy S10 to Galaxy S20, people think there is a HUGE change between and want to buy!"
This is completely marketing driven, practically guaranteed.
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Re:Did they skip a few? (Score:4, Insightful)
Yep, not having a headphone jack is a deal breaker for me, period.
I won't even look at it if there's no headphone jack regardless of what else it does or doesn't have, it just instantly drops off the list of possibles.
(Standing by for the incoming "okay boomer" and "settle down, grandpa" comments.)
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I'm sort of resigned to the fact that my next phone won't have a headphone jack. Apple screwed us and now it's hard to buy a decent phone with one.
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It just means that it wasn't important *enough* to flock to other devices. The inconvenience of having to switch to Android and all that comes with that is much bigger than the inconvenience of a dongle.
I don't know if that means that Apple was "right". Apple can do some deeply unpopular things
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I'm not sure if the keyboard is a good example either, because Apple actually went back to the old design. I'm assuming that had a lot to do with customer push-back, though the repair costs they agreed to eat on the laptops with the new design may have factored into the decision as w
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I'm sort of resigned to the fact that my next phone won't have a headphone jack. Apple screwed us and now it's hard to buy a decent phone with one.
Now it's becoming almost impossible in fact.
With that said, I've got a jack-less iPhone and a S10 (which sadly got broken recently). I've kinda gotten used to not having the headphones jack...it required changing to different headphones and bring a second pair when I fly for IFE among other things. I'll manage but it's still a nuisance and if Samsung offered even one of the models with a headphones jack, i'd buy that. IDK why they don't give that a try tbh - have a real comparison of how strongly people
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Read up on BT codecs. In particular these days, Android phones support LDAC for BT, which can be capable of higher bitrates and resolution than a phone's built-in DAC.
Of course, nice BT headphone are expensive, and it'd still be nice to always have your CD-quality hard wired backup available.
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But it does have a headphone jack - it's just USB type-C.
Is it really that difficult for you to have a 3in adapter connected to your headphones?
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The thing is, we had user replaceable batteries when these phones seem to keep their charge for weeks. Today our smart camera's (with a phone module) seem to last a whole day. And we can't replace the battery for those times we go past 24 hours. (Eg long flight, camping, forgetting you phone at the office)
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I used to like the Motorola Moto line for this. You could slap a new Moto battery mod onto the back of the phone to easily add more battery life to the phone. Unfortunately, I've had trouble with my Moto Z3. First, the battery pack started dying after just over a year of ownership. It would go from fully charged to empty in about an hour and this wasn't with heavy use. Then, my phone itself would die quickly. I would go from 100% at 7am to 50% at noon and would need to charge it again at 4pm. Again, this wa
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I also think flagships are too expensive for me nowadays: 1000+ €/$ and phones in general have improved so much that 200-300€ phones are good enough for me nowadays.
When I bought a Galaxy S2 the year it was released (for 550€) the extra internal storage (16 GB vs 8 or less),RAM (1GB) rand more po
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It's not the best solution, but a USB-PD compliant power bank and a phone capable of charging at USB-PD rates isn't too bad - you just have to plug it in and let it top up.
Yes, it's not instant like swapping a battery would be. Yes, you have to carry around an extra gram of cable with your battery. But it works and it's something that moves from phone to phone, or is useable with other batteries that charge from USB, unlike a replaceable battery.
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I had a Nexus 5 which after a year the battery began to drop from 40% to 0% in less than an hour. (This is how the remaining charge software interprets a degraded battery. The charge estimate is based on the measured voltage, modified by how much current the
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On rooted phones, you can use an app that will stop charging at 80 or 90%. You can also just have it turn off if the battery is under 10% with Tasker or something like that although that might be a bit extreme.
how can a bigger screen with the same res... (Score:3)
... have a *higher* pixel density?? *confused*
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We really need to start talking about screen resolution in megapixels, it bypasses all the marketing bulshytt (why it won't happen) and gives a much better idea across different aspect ratios.
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... have a *higher* pixel density?? *confused*
It means the zeros are rounder and the ones are, like, more 1-ish. That way the customer-driven intermetric paradigm is crisper and engages a more relevant vertical audience channel. That's my interpretation.
Commercial (Score:2)
Slashdot gets paid to post this?
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Stylus? (Score:3)
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Get a Note9 then. That's what I (well my employer) bought before the brave jack-free craze strarted. Sadly the Note20 will probably be jack-less too.
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All of the features? (Score:2)
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Ummm... Samsung was 10x more intrusive than google on my S5. Forced preloaded apps, aggressive permissions, failure to patch holes.
Essentially, Samsung was the worst part of the S5. It wasn’t until I redid the OS with lineage / cyanogen that it was usable.
Quadruple camera setup? (Score:2)
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It's because of size limitations within the phone, both with the camera (having a lens that can extend takes up much more space than having multiple lenses), and the sensors for the camera.
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In the case of having a wide angle and telephoto lens, yes.
Having something that can do 0.5x is surprisingly useful. Same with a real optical zoom of 3x.
Screen Size (Score:2)
Maybe it's just me but the screen size on these phones is getting crazy. 6.9" on the ultra? That's not a phone. That's a tablet that can make calls.
Personally the only one of these I would want is the regular one with the smallest (6.2") screen, and even that is a bit too big IMHO. Right now I'm using the Galaxy S10e. At the time I bought it the regular S10 wasn't really that much more expensive but I specifically wanted the smaller screen because a phone is supposed to be portable.
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Personally the only one of these I would want is the regular one with the smallest (6.2") screen, and even that is a bit too big IMHO.
Same here. I find the screen on my S5 is too big to fit comfortably in most of my pockets. I don't want to watch movies on my phone, I just want to make calls, take calls, and snap a picture once in a while.
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If you want to use a phone as a phone that also has a camera and that's about it, then don't buy a flagship device. You are not the target market, and that is ok.
No device will ever be perfect for every single person. Accept that you are an outlier on this particular model and move on to one that is better suited for your needs. I don't know why this is such a hard god damn concept for people around here.
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That's cool, but I also need one that won't get lost in the seam of my pocket or that I'll mistake for a Tic-Tac.
But that is a pretty cool little phone. Perfect for keistering when I report to prison.
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I studied all the review articles for the "best small smartphone", and the smallest phone that makes most lists is the Google Pixel 3a, which turns out to be larger than the two year old flagship phone I was looking to replace.
It's like Detroit automakers were for many years: they assumed that anyone who was looking for a small car must be looking for a *cheap* car. If you wanted a good small car you had to go with a Japanese or German marque.
If you want a first rate small phone, your choices are similarly
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Maybe it's just me but the screen size on these phones is getting crazy. 6.9" on the ultra? That's not a phone. That's a tablet that can make calls.
Personally I am hoping for a 7.1" model next year when I'm likely to upgrade again. Just like shirt sizes don't stop at Medium, I want there to be versions of flagship phones which couldn't even fit in the pocket of a 150 lb 5'8" person.
I like how the largest phones are essentially tablets, and feel there is still room for growth. My guess is at around 7.5"-8" is when I wouldn't want anything larger.
I still want there to be smaller phones for people who prefer that, and I'm glad those options still exist. S
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You're still talking about phones here, right? Because it's getting hard to tell.
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The most ridiculous thing about newer smartphones with screens this big is that they tend to have a gesture for zooming out and making the active screen area smaller to make things easier to reach...
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My OnePlus 7 Pro is almost the exact same physical size as the iPhone 7 it replaced, but has a screen that is an inch bigger, refreshes at 90hz, and also is actually the whole front of the phone minus a tiny "chin" on the bottom thanks to a motorized pop-up front-facing camera that only appears when it's being used.
Why constantly have something there that isn't in use? The cut-hole camera is just an evolution of the "notch" - you still have an interrupted screen for a device that isn't being used >80% o
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I've got the S7 and it's plenty big enough already with a 5.1" display. Part of why I haven't moved on is that I'm not interested in the size creep of most of the flagship phones. It's a phone. It lives in my pocket. If I wanted a tablet that I have to keep in a bag, I'd have gotten one.
Prices? (Score:2)
This article means nothing to me without price information. You may as well compare different models of cars without mentioning the sticker prices.
If all you care about are the specs, tally ho, but some of us actually care what things cost when comparing products. Crazy, huh?
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It says the price at the end... they're $1,000 to $1,400
Ridiculous pixels (Score:4)
What the hell are you going to do with a 108MP cell phone camera, or a 40MP front camera? Pretty sure 90-95% of those pixels are just noise. If a full frame sensor is good enough with 12.1 MP. Anything more than 5-10MP in a phone camera is useless considering the sensor size and the glass. Plus it's going to immediately get compressed into sub 10MB JPG anyhow.
Re:Ridiculous pixels (Score:4, Interesting)
If the pixels are real, then having more means you can do a better digital zoom. But what is really needed for phone cameras is better low-light imaging. They've worked great in sunlight for ages, but they've only slowly been progressing in indoor quality.
They have been improving rapidly in low light (Score:3)
They've worked great in sunlight for ages, but they've only slowly been progressing in indoor quality.
Apple's Deep Fusion has greatly improved low light indoor shots. I think Android has something similar.
For even lower light shots both Apple and Android have some really useful Night Shot modes that work extremely well.
In the last year or two cell phone cameras have taken a huge leap in low light image quality.
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Indeed, the megapixel count on a smartphone camera is pretty meaningless. It is an "e-penis count" used to sell phones with numbers on the spec sheet (just like with several other things in the smartphone business...)
Most smartphones with high-MP cameras do pixel binning anyway - filtering every four adjacent pixels into one.
The biggest differentiator between smartphone cameras these days is the software. Good software takes multiple pictures quickly at different settings to feed various filters to provide
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What modern FF cameras are you looking that that ONLY have 12MP?
I would guess it would have to be the lowest of low end out there....?
Pixel binning (Score:4, Informative)
Instead of a 12MP sensor having long exposure, it will have short exposure at 108MP and combine the values of 9 pixels into 1, giving you a 12MP image with short exposure so you have less blurriness in low light, and more detail in general.
Digital zoom will look better as well.
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It's not ridiculous (Score:2)
But on the smartphone sensor, you can just take the brightness value measured for c of the smaller pixels, and average them together. That's equivalent to taking c*n p
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Who even cares at this point? They need an easy way to communicate "phone take pictures real good", and the only thing they can come up with is the wo
retro (Score:2)
Nice. My S12 will now sell for bank on Ebay since it's suddenly so retro.
dropped 3G support? (Score:2)
so they have dropped 3G support? there are still some areas where that is all you can get. Seems nuts to lose this ability.
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no
Ever onward. (Score:2)
Now all they gotta do is make them portable.
Meh (Score:2)
I'll keep my S10e with its headphone jack, thanks.
Show me a phone with comparable specs but removeable battery and unlocked bootloader, and I'll happy leave Samsung altogether. They've stopped catering to the advanced/power user.
My guess at the price... (Score:2)
> The company will share the prices later today.
An arm and a leg.
Get to the important bits (Score:2)
Can you replace the battery and does it have a headphone jack?
If either of them is answered in the negative, you can save a lot of your time and mine by stopping right there.
Does it come with crapware? (Score:2)
You know it (Score:2)
does. Gigs of apps you can only "freeze" and not delete to regain space.
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with 128GB of storage who gives a shit?
What about the software? (Score:2)
Wow! A Candy-Bar Phone!!! (Score:2)
Who really cares anymore? (Score:2)
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iPhone XXX! (Score:2)
Ugh, No headphone jack, no thank you (Score:2)
I gave the Pixel 2XL a try to see if I could get by without a headphone jack. Over the two years I used it, I purchased about 9 adapters because they kept going faulty, and I needed an adapter for every pair of headphones and car adapter. Any time I tried to use bluetooth in my other vehicle or bluetooth speaker, it was not seamless. I always had to fidget with things, tell it to try connecting again, or other nonsense. With the headphone jack, I always plugged it in and I never had to worry about wheth
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XCover is what I want. (Score:2)
Much more interested in the XCover Pro and XCover Field Pro.
Removable battery. Headphone socket. microSD slot. Latest Android. Plus all the stuff you'd normally want.
Supposed to be "released" in the UK already, but there is literally one available on Amazon, and that's it.
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Thanks for pointing it out , looks like the phone everyone actually wants https://www.samsung.com/us/bus... [samsung.com]
Missing spec (Score:2)
Hey, they forgot the most important spec, free hardware Bixby button that can't be reprogrammed to something else! Every time you accidentally bump it, the Bixby interface takes over the screen! Woooo!
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Samesung does not have to copy Apple do they?
They could be different but I guess that they just follow the herd.
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They're doing the same with the multiple cameras now too it seems, after people made fun of the iPhone11 for doing that.
Truth is, they both copy off each other here and there. It's always amusing to watch the phanboi wars as each side rips on the other, though I see more 'hate' from the 'droid side overall (not just here). Sometimes it gets pretty nasty.
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Samesung does not have to copy Apple do they? They could be different but I guess that they just follow the herd.
You seem to forget this was all about courage. No one wants to be labeled a pussy for not being "brave" enough. Hence the jack-less designs coupled to a fucking pointless "notch" screen.
When you cannot innovate, you copy, sue, rinse, and repeat. And no one can truly innovate anymore thanks to the clusterfuck we call the patent system.
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This is "bravery", not "courage".
To follow the enemies tracks as if hunting, to sell less phones because it's a stupid decision.
Bravery.
Courage! (Score:2)
Most phone manufacturers and engineers really hated the headphone jack, as it is an engineering nightmare, and despite people complaining about it, most rarely ever use the headphone Jack.
For almost all technology there is a point where you are going to say, No I am not going to keep this feature anymore, if that is the case your phone may still have a 25 pin parallel connector, just in case you want to plug it into a dot matrix printer.
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I always use the jack. why have the hassle of keep recharging BT headphones
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A hassle? Leave it on the end of your headphone cable. Now instead of a 3.5mm plug, it's a USB-C plug; and your phone has a place to plug it into!
I nearly broke a sweat coming up with that one.
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Because they're inferior.
That's a statement generalized enough to risk being an untruth.
It is true that in a lot of cases it is, but a nice set of LDAC headphones can very often have high bitrate and resolution on its internal DAC than the DAC on the phone.
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Most phone manufacturers and engineers really hated the headphone jack, as it is an engineering nightmare, and despite people complaining about it, most rarely ever use the headphone Jack. For almost all technology there is a point where you are going to say, No I am not going to keep this feature anymore, if that is the case your phone may still have a 25 pin parallel connector, just in case you want to plug it into a dot matrix printer.
When most electronics still come with a headphone jack (My 55" 4K HDTV has a 3.5mm headphone jack), your dot matrix analogy falls flat, and is pointless. We still manufacture and sell a shitload of wired headphones. And manufacturers have made an IP6x rated smartphone with a headphone jack, dispelling that bullshit excuse too.
As far as frustrated manufacturers and engineers, you've already shoved 20 pounds of shit in a 5-pound sack. Stop assuming people are demanding another 5 pounds be shoved into that
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Most phone manufacturers and engineers really hated the headphone jack, as it is an engineering nightmare
As the one voting with my dollar I don't care how manufacturers or engineers feel. Also above "nightmare" language is a bit much.
and despite people complaining about it, most rarely ever use the headphone Jack.
I rarely check my voice mail yet I still expect it to be there when I need it. I rarely use various outlets, bleach, oven self cleaning, dipsticks, pancake mix, e brakes, console ports or soap.
Things that are not often used still provide value. It is that value that is important not length of use itself. Apple is selling several tens of millions of airpods every year and rakin
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If you guys want something different, instead of just lamenting and then buying an apple-candybar-clone, but a blackberry.
It is as stock android as one can get. And have a keyboard. with keys and all. you get an android with Ctrl+x/c/v, even Ctrl+z works! ctrl+a... ssh client with ctrl+h/i to esc tab... it's a dream.
if you are buying a key2, note that there is a key2 and key2SE or something. The SE (or LE?) is the same phone with a cheaper CPU (and some say better battery life)
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I had no idea that Apple could compel Samsung to leave features that apparently EVERYBODY MUST HAVE off their devices.
It seems more likely that there is an assumption being made in your statement that is incorrect.
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6.4Mb RAM? Must be some massive mainframe or other unobtanium. We had 8K for our BASIC programs (16 4Kx1 DRAM, 2104 or 4044), and had to shorten up every identifier in our source to make it fit.
My used IBM XT (not a clone) probably had 256K when it was new, but someone upgraded it to 640K. Pretty nice.