OnePlus 7T Brings Snapdragon 855+, More Cameras For $599

The new OnePlus 7T was officially announced earlier today, bringing a speedier Snapdragon 855+ processor, 90Hz display, and more camera sensors for $599 -- nearly $100 less than the base model OnePlus 7 Pro. From a report: There are more upgrades found in the OnePlus 7T's display. The OP7T's 6.55-inch 2400x1080 AMOLED screen includes a 90Hz refresh rate, helping to make the screen feel smoother, and OnePlus has also upgraded the in-display fingerprint sensor on its new device. OnePlus claims that the OP7T has the "fastest, smoothest fingerprint unlock anywhere." Another major upgrade of the OnePlus 7T is on its backside. OnePlus has given the 7T a triple rear camera setup, up from the dual cameras found on the OnePlus 7. The triple rear cam system on the OnePlus 7T includes a 48MP main sensor with f/1.6 aperture and OIS, a 16MP ultra-wide camera with a 117-degree field of view, and a 12MP telephoto camera with a 2x optical zoom.

OnePlus has included ultra-wide Nightscape support for low-light shooting and Super Stable Video to better stabilize your video captures, and 4K video capture at 60fps. Slow-mo video recording is available at 1080p at 240fps or 720p at 480fps, and soon OnePlus will be slowing things down even more, adding 720p video recording at 960fps through a future software update. Around front there's a 16MP selfie camera in a waterdrop notch that OnePlus says is smaller than the notch found on last year's OnePlus 6T. OnePlus has packed the OP7T with 128GB of built-in UFS 3.0 storage, 8GB of RAM, USB-C, stereo speakers, Bluetooth 5.0, NFC, and Android 10 running out of the box. The OnePlus 7T launches on October 18 at a price of $599. The device will be sold exclusively by T-Mobile, though Verizon and AT&T users can buy an unlocked version from OnePlus' website.

Apple is the same story

[SuperKendall]

I think $1k+ phones are a temporary aberration and price points for high end non-Apple phones will generally coalesce around the $600 mark.

The "iPhone for the masses" currently is the iPhone 11, base cost is $699.

Yes you can get a Pro for $1k, but that's not the primary model.

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[Tough Love]

I think Apple is fucked. They still have the shrinking customer base and now they have the shrinking phone price.

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[jellomizer]

Apple is advertising their iPhone 11 Pro for $599 (with trade in). It seems the 1k price range was a general consumer limit for cell phone prices.

Fails the sniff test - but is that valid anymore?

[xxdelxx]

So my personal sniff test for a phone was always Removable Battery, SD Card, Headphone jack.

Then I got a phone with a fixed battery because there weren't any financially sensible (for me at the time) alternatives and I've yet to have a problem given the Moto quick charge.
Now I look at the memory usage on my current phone. 196GB total (with SD Card) - 112 available. I got a bunch of movies on there that I've watched and not deleted as well.
Headset - I can't remember the last time I plugged one in. Loo

Re:Fails the sniff test - but is that valid anymor

[msauve]

It's not a headphone jack, it's an audio jack. I often use it to plug into stereos at friends. Or a higher quality headphone which doesn't use non-replaceable batteries to run its soon-to-be obsolete BT. It can also provide a connection for an external quality microphone to use for video instead of depending on the built-in, relatively low quality MEMS ones they use. I'm surprised that with all the focus on cameras these days, that's never mentioned.

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[drinkypoo]

Quick charge is cool, but it doesn't help me in the middle of the day when I'm away from my charger. I have an X4 now and I think it's a great phone for virtually no money, and I really appreciate that it has apparently standards-compliant USB-C fast charging (it works with my Gigabyte 990FX G1 Gaming.) But the skinny battery is a liability if I'm doing much during the day. I do really appreciate being able to set battery saver at any battery percentage, though, unlike on my E2.

However, I use earbuds all th

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[markdavis]

>"I've had the same pair of ten-ish dollar Philips buds for about ten years now, and they still work. "

It sounds like we are probably using the same ones. Cheap, sound great, tiny plug, thin very flexible wire, extremely small and lightweight and comfortable.

No batteries, no bulk, no weight, no interference, no "pairing/depairing", no worrying about life or use time, no pain, almost no cost, no paranoia about losing one or damaging them, universal compatibility. What a concept.

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[MeNeXT]

I also had the same experience but came to a different conclusion. The USB-C plug on the phone no longer holds a dongle or cable properly because of the constant use. Using headphones is no longer feasible unless they are Bluetooth. Bluetooth is not feasible because it interferes with all the other objects. Even waking computers from sleep mode that are not connected to the device.

Don't get me going about the battery and the number of phones I have lying around that need a battery replacement where it cost

Marketecture.

[msauve]

in-display fingerprint sensor on its new device. OnePlus claims that the OP7T has the "fastest, smoothest fingerprint unlock anywhere."

I like fingerprint unlock. But, I like it on the back, where your finger naturally falls when picking up the phone. Under-display sensors either require an unnatural one-handed movement, or two hands. I can't see how that's either fastest or smoothest.

I want a phone with a user replaceable battery, an SD-Card slot so I can add large, cheap storage for media instead of paying 10x for limited internal, and a 3.5 mm audio jack. Nice thick bezels to provide screen protection and prevent undesired "fat fingering." Forehead and chin with front facing stereo speakers. Replaceable plastic covers (like the old candybar Nokias) which can be easily replaced when beat up or for customization instead of needing a case to protect easily damaged glass. Stop trying to sell new stuff just because it's new and different and "fashion." Stop pushing form over function.

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[amxcoder]

I like fingerprint unlock. But, I like it on the back, where your finger naturally falls when picking up the phone. Under-display sensors either require an unnatural one-handed movement, or two hands. I can't see how that's either fastest or smoothest.

THIS! I also like the fingerprint sensor on the BACK of the phone. It's out of the way, and you can press it with any of several fingers rather naturally when holding the phone with one hand. A finger print reader on the front requires either the use of the thumb print only, or requires the use of 2 hands to use a different finger.

Plus, when it's on the back, you can feel where it is, and press it as you are pulling it out of your pocket and up to your face so it's ready to go before you look at it.

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[RightSaidFred99]

Ever see that Simpsons episode where Homer designs a car? Maybe they should add 3 horns to this phone you describe as well, because you can never find a horn when you want to honk at some moron!

Re:Marketecture.

[msauve]

...and let me add - it's just plain stupid to have cameras poke out the back of a phone, where they're easily scratched or damaged every time you set the phone down. Make the phone thicker and fill it with a bigger battery.

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[markdavis]

>"I like fingerprint unlock. But, I like it on the back, where your finger naturally falls when picking up the phone."

Except when you want to use it WITHOUT picking it up, like I do all the time. Then you can't. Or if you use a wallet case. Or when it is mounted on a motorcycle and you can't get to the back. Or if you like to use it on a stand on your desk. So back-placed is not ideal for many use cases or users (including me).

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[msauve]

Never heard of face unlock, have you?

And, in the case of a motorcycle, just plug it in and set it to not lock when powered, because neither gloves nor a helmet helps.

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[Custard Horse]

A rear mounted fingerprint sensor can be coupled with a custom case with a cut out (which actually aids finding the hole in which you can place your finger) or you can use another device to keep the phone unlocked or assign safe places such as work and home to keep the device unlocked.

There are pros and cons but saying "...you CAN'T" use it without picking it up is misleading.

ideally there should be rear and front mounted sensors which some phones did have early doors but I guess cost is king and the f

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[markdavis]

>"There are pros and cons but saying "...you CAN'T" use it without picking it up is misleading."

It is an accurate statement assuming you must use the fingerprint sensor (which was what I meant). You can't use a rear fingerprint sensor without picking up the phone (when it is lying flat on its back against something (table, stand, mount). There are other options if you don't need to use the sensor, however.

My preference is for all controls to be available on the front and sides.

Nice but no headphone jack.

[BrookHarty]

Rather amusing, their slogan is Never Settle when they removed the headphone jack.

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[Falos]

Never Downgrade

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[eclectro]

Besides no headphone jack, there is no waterproof rating, no memory card slot for expansion, and no wireless charging.

OnePlus, the company that has verifiably "settled."

Re: Nice but no headphone jack.

[aRTeeNLCH]

Agreed, exactly why my Oneplus 3T will be the last I ever buy.

No wireless charging

[lessthan0]

Once I got it, it became a life changer. Wireless charging is effortless and doesn't damage any ports in the phone. It's a killer feature and I won't give it up.

I like all the rest of the specs and it's a great price, but missing a must have.

No IP67?

[DigitalisAkujin]

I've taken to gaming while taking a bath and being able to do it without worrying about accidentally dropping the phone has completely changed the experience for me. I had to splurge on a Galaxy S10+ just for that.

I bought the 6T and love it

[tannhaus]

The 6T was my first OnePlus phone. I love it, but really want the 7T. I'm trying to convince myself I don't really need it. The camera improvements would be nice though.

I got the 128GB model of the 6T and have only used 30GB, so I don't really care that there's not a 256GB model right now. The thing that keeps me from upgrading is that I'd only get $170 for the 6T through their upgrade program. That's a little anemic. If they bumped that up to $300, then they'd have a lot more previous customers upgrading..