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Fire At AT&T Facility Causes Outage For Over a Million U-Verse Fiber Customers In Texas (wfaa.com) 54

New submitter JustChapman writes: Local Dallas/Fort Worth WFAA is reporting a major outage of AT&T U-Verse fiber internet, due to a lightening strike at a switching facility in Richardson, TX. Apparently the strike took out primary and secondary power systems, setting fire to the building. One commenter states a representative allegedly said that 1.5 million customers are currently without service.
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Fire At AT&T Facility Causes Outage For Over a Million U-Verse Fiber Customers In Texas

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  • by bobbied ( 2522392 ) on Monday October 15, 2018 @04:19PM (#57482278)

    Thank the maker I don't have AT&T as my ISP, but it remains to be seen if I have internet at home.

    However, given AT&T's past transgressions, Somehow it makes sense that the Maker is mad with ATT and struck them with lighting.

    • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
      Sadly I do have U-verse TV and internet. Seemed like a great deal for 1Gb internet service. Service at the house has been down since 10:30 this morning. They won't even attempt to provide an ETA on repairs or service restoration. What kind of tech company doesn't have a redundancy plan? Ohhhh, AT&T isn't a tech company. My bad.
      • Well with directv as long as you have power and clear view of the sky you have TV.

        • Well with directv as long as you have power and clear view of the sky you have TV.

          Yea, but why? Even with a thousand channels, there is never anything good on any more.

          Personally, I just have a DVR full of interesting stuff and a drawer of DVD/Blu-ray disks for when the internet happens to be down. Not to mention the book shelves full of good lit books from our "home schooling the kids" phase that just ended. I literally have a life time or two of entertainment...

      • Youâ(TM)re not paying for redundancy at the POP level. You said yourself it seemed like a great deal, indicating price was one of your major drivers. 99.99% of end users donâ(TM)t want to pay what redundancy costs for the small amount of outages, especially now that everyone has a cell device which can handle 10s of Mb/sec as a âfall backâ(TM). If you really need wired redundancy, have a cable company put in a line, and manage that with a router with prioritization. You donâ(TM)t wa

        • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
          Great story. I do have a mobile hot spot with unlimited data that I use when I travel or in case of an outage. I can watch TV on any of my mobile devices, or connect them to the TV and watch whatever I want. It's not about me and what I have. The problem is a large "tech" company thinks it can shove all of their services for a large population into one building. They can do it if they want, but it will cost them customers. If they decided as a company that losing a bunch of customers is fine, then hey, we a
          • I like on DFW, and I've had inverse for a year, and so far this outage has gone 12 hours, or half a day.

            Network reliability is measured in "nines", as in "5 nines", which means the network is available 99.999% of the time.

            2 nines is 99%, or about 90 hours of downtime per year.

            3 nines is 99.9%, or about 9 hours of down time per year.

            4 nines is 99.99%, or about 1 hour of downtime per year.

            5 nines, the holy grail of availability is about 5 minutes of downtime per year.

            Right now, U-Verse is at about "3 nines",

          • The problem is a large "tech" company thinks it can shove all of their services for a large population into one building.

            This is how telcos achieve 'economy of scale', they have done this for about a century - same for municipal water and electricity

        • Youâ(TM)re not paying for redundancy at the POP level.

          Right but 1.5 million customers affected seems a bit higher up the network than "POP level"

      • Sadly I do have U-verse TV and internet. Seemed like a great deal for 1Gb internet service. Service at the house has been down since 10:30 this morning. They won't even attempt to provide an ETA on repairs or service restoration. What kind of tech company doesn't have a redundancy plan? Ohhhh, AT&T isn't a tech company. My bad.

        I just heard a local report on this.. Apparently the building burned pretty badly and the Roof collapsed. Unless they have a totally redundant system in some other location, which I find improbable for a host of reasons, it's going to be a LONG time before this gets fixed. IF customer wiring goes though this building (which I find HIGHLLY likely) I'm going to guess it is going to take a lot of time to rewire everything to some new location.

        In short.. I'd be asking AT&T to let you out of any contracts ba

      • The issue was a lightning strike that took out the redundant power feed for the facility when a fire started in the power room.

        Sure, they should have had two power rooms, but at some point there is diminishing return on the redundancy.

      • by sjames ( 1099 )

        Not to worry, with their extensive redundancy in the critical departments, the bills will go out on time and the legal staff is at full power.

    • But why did the lightning miss Comcast?

      • With comcast there is a few super heads end that if they go down a BIG part of there service will go out.

    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by rrohbeck ( 944847 ) on Monday October 15, 2018 @04:24PM (#57482314)

    Not what you think it is: https://www.dictionary.com/bro... [dictionary.com]

    • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      They were struck by someone painting all the grey walls with white paint. It reflected more light, so the building got too cold. This cause the air handlers to freeze up, at which point the equipment all melted down. It makes perfect sense to me.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Lightening is where you lighten something up that's dark such as a photo in digital photo editing software.

    Lightning is the high-energy burst that almost rivals a nuclear bomb, causes audio compression (i.e. a thing called "thunder"), and can start building fires even if the building is properly grounded.

    Hopefully, this has been enlightening for JustChapman. Get a dictionary!

  • Lightening strikes usually result in liftoff and sometimes an abrupt crash, equally devastating, and fire is a common feature...

  • This sounds eerily like the 1988 fire at the switching center in Hinsdale, IL [mit.edu]. Hopefully they didn't ignore alarms as happened then.

  • You really have to hand it to these people. They put the primary and secondary power systems together in the same room.
    This is cluelessness on a grand scale.

    • Primary power = Commercial AC
      Secondary = Generators

      Battery strings and rectifiers in that mix somewhere. Trivia: Many telco systems are DC. Usually -48v

      Lightning strike probably destroyed batteries and / or rectifiers meaning even IF the generator came out unscathed, it would not matter.

      If it is a building that housed a pass-through fiber node, it will not take long to reroute it.

      If it is a fiber drop / handoff point, may take a bit longer but AT&T will roll their mobile crisis units out ( essentially

    • Right, they should have had completely redundant wiring for the two power sources, not just two power sources for the facility.

      At some point your redundant systems have to converge.

      If your company has two ISP connections, diversity of service, they likely have both routers in the same rack in the same closet.

      But no, you're right, they need to put two power rooms on alternate sides of the building, with both running to a third room, where there is a cutover in case one fails... oh wait, what if that room cat

  • I've got AT&T fiber down in the Houston area and it works just fine currently. Ditto with someone I know in the Austin area.
  • IP routes around damage. It wasn't a fire at a facility which caused an outage, it was incorrect network design.

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