Can Cheap Android Tablets Bridge the Digital Divide? (teleread.org) 111
It's now possible to buy a 7-inch Android tablet for under $50 -- for example, the Nook Tablet 7 or Amazon's cheapest Fire tablet. "Since the Fire can now easily install regular Android apps, it has become useful out of all proportion to its price," writes long-time Slashdot reader Robotech_Master, noting that for many applications tablets can replace a desktop or laptop computer. TeleRead.org is even arguing this could be what bridges the digital divide:
[N]ot just for reading ebooks and assisting in education, but for more basic tasks. People with low or no incomes could search and apply for better jobs. Students could do homework and term papers on their tablet if their siblings or parents are using the desktop.
Besides the obvious applications like email and web browsing, $50 Android tablets also offer cheap phone calls via Google Hangouts. (You can even get your own phone number through Google Voice.) Calling the tablets "a full-fledged internet terminal... easily within reach of even the lowest-income families," the article concludes "I can hardly wait to see where these tablets go from here."
Besides the obvious applications like email and web browsing, $50 Android tablets also offer cheap phone calls via Google Hangouts. (You can even get your own phone number through Google Voice.) Calling the tablets "a full-fledged internet terminal... easily within reach of even the lowest-income families," the article concludes "I can hardly wait to see where these tablets go from here."
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" $50 Android tablets also offer cheap phone calls via Google Hangouts."
Or just buy an empty prepaid simcard on ebay or for 50 cents, (or an actual one on the corner bodega) to receive the install SMS (on your cellphone) and install Whatsapp. (on the tablet)
I have been doing that for years for the oldsters in our family on 50$ tablets, so they can text and phone for free all around the house.
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I have been doing that for years for the oldsters in our family on 50$ tablets, so they can text and phone for free all around the house.
You've (probably unintentionally) pointed out something which works against the premise of the submission itself.
Cheap Android tablets have been around for years - this is not new, and they haven't "bridged the digital divide" up to this point.
The people who buy these sorts of devices seem to be middle class and up. $50-$100 is the "I can give a cheap tablet to each of the kids without going nuts if they break them" price range.
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I had one of those for a while. I wasn't very careful with it at all, and it still managed to run for almost 3 years. It ran stock Android too, which puts it above tablets from major manufacturers like Samsung in that regard.
Performance wasn't that great, it really was just fast enough to be useable.
A piece of advice is that in this price range, the Intel Atom based tablets are way slower than the ARM ones.
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I got a cheap one with a large screen mostly as a PDF reader. It works great for that. It doesn't do what my laptop and smartphone can do, at least not very well, but a page-sized screen that works in portrait mode is great.
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I would just point out that there are very inexpensive, but not all together bad, smartphones in the 50$ range, that can be loaded with sensible service.
Take for instance, an LG Optimus Zone 3. It's a 45$ prepaid thing on Verizon's network. It *CAN* work on ATT's network after being SIM unlocked, and it can work just fine with something like FreedomPop. (which you can get the SIM card in the mail for 1$. Their lowest level service is literally 0$ a month, as long as you remain inside the 250minutes/500text
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" $50 Android tablets also offer cheap phone calls via Google Hangouts."
Or just buy an empty prepaid simcard on ebay or for 50 cents, (or an actual one on the corner bodega) to receive the install SMS (on your cellphone) and install Whatsapp. (on the tablet)
I have been doing that for years for the oldsters in our family on 50$ tablets, so they can text and phone for free all around the house.
The digital divide isn't about hardware. I picked up an iphone 5s a few months ago for my kids for $50 to use on wifi. Our school issues ipads to every student in middle school and high school. The problem is access to the internet. Even free hardware is pretty useless if you don't have reliable internet. In my area, options start at about $50/month (which comes out to $600/year) and even if you can afford that, that assumes you even have the ability to install it. Plenty of poor people live in situations like subsidized housing, a friend's basement, or some odd-ball living situation where getting internet installed isn't even an option. One of my son's friend literally lived in tent with his parents for a while and now has upgraded to living in a pop-up camper. Getting broadband in a situation like this is pretty much impossible.
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Don't need broadband. Just an acceptable internet connection. The city next door has city-wide WiFi. Not to mention most smartphones already have an acceptable connection. People can get online, it's just those spoiled by their home connection who can't understand what a gift the alternatives are.
That's great in theory. Where I live there is free wifi downtown, free wifi at mcdonalds and several coffee houses, free wifi at the public library, and the school even offers free wifi to its students before and after school. The problem with this is that even the before and after school option requires actually travelling somewhere and some cheap and reliable transportation to get there. I live in a partially rural area where public transportation doesn't really exist and even some of the poor that hav
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They can walk the 5 miles into town, they can hitchhike, etc... but I think you underestimate some of the challenges the truly poor have. They are not worried about where to find internet. They are a lot more concerned about where to find this month's (or week's) rent money or the money to buy dinner tonight.
Sigh. Congratulations, you just described the digital divide. That is literally what we are talking about. Having to walk or hitch into town to get internet access is the digital divide. Just like having to wait around at bus stops and then be crammed into a shitty box with sweaty people is the transportation divide.
This is precisely why not having a cellphone with an internet plan makes you a second-class (or lower) citizen. It is taken for granted today that you will have this. If not, it makes it more di
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This is precisely why not having a cellphone with an internet plan makes you a second-class (or lower) citizen. It is taken for granted today that you will have this. If not, it makes it more difficult to do literally anything any more.
I have a phone without a data plan, but I wouldn't exactly call myself a second class citizen...not yet. But it's getting there.
My actual phone service is cheap, but to get a data plan the companies basically want to charge me 4 or 5 times as much.
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The cost of the Device even spending a couple thousand dollars for one isn't the big issue, it is monthly fees.
Buying an expensive device even for a lower middle class family can be done with saving up for it. However the monthly fees for services is constantly affecting quality of life.
So if you need a $2k device every 3 years that is saving $13 every month.
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I am not sure what base you were working in, but here in decimal land, 3 years is 36 months, and 3000 / 36 = 55.55....
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Sigh, stupid phone keyboard. 2000 / 36 = 55.555....
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The digital divide is more about peer groups shitting on people for being smart. If you're black, female, mexican, or native american, your peers will treat you like shit for doing "white male" things like learning and getting smarter.
And how does a white male such as yourself become an expert on how those people think? Perhaps you are stereotyping to support your "I hate government and everybody but me is a parasite."
That tablet is $50 that could have been spent on crack, makeup, or rims for your 1995 Civic.
So nasty stereotyping it is.
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WhatsApp is proprietary, privacy-invading Facebook garbage. No one should use it when the are two perfectly good, *interoperable* standards available (SMS and RCS).
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I prefer open standards like XMPP and IPv4/v6.
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Indeed. The digital divide is not about access to hardware. It is about education and network access (e.g. rural Africa). Still, I do like having some cheap hardware for reading eBooks, where it does not matter if it gets stolen or breaks.
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Also culture and genetics.
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Hell is something close to debugging PHP with embedded SQL on a low resolution tablet.
And yes, I have been to Africa recently, and yes I could get a P4 with a CRT and PS2 keyboard and mouse for under $50 (it did look past its prime though). I could also buy a Nigerian Guinness for about $0.30 and a nutritiously sound meal for about $1.50. An experienced local would obviously pay less than me for the meal or the computer, unless he had drunk too much Nigerian Guinness.
A lot of people there already had $50 tablets two years ago. Some even had PCs with Linux.
The problem in Africa is not access to hardware, it is, to some degree, understanding the benefits of the hardware (particularly as compared to the merits of dressing up and partying). However, you could access mainframes in 1963 here in the UK. How many people had a use for a mainframe in 1963? Hell, how many people would have known what one did, even if they were in the computer room? (it was enough to make Ross Perot filthy rich). However, the clothes and parties here in the UK in 1963 were pretty crap unless you were a cabinet minister (see Profumo).
The solution to this problem is time not hardware.
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And yes, I have been to Africa recently...
The problem in Africa...
A bigger problem is people describing 'Africa', and giving a one size fits all solution.
It makes as much sense as talking about the Americas and assuming what's good for the US is good for Venezuela.
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Currently in vietnam and haven't seen an old school PC in three weeks. Tablets are really popular, and the highest end shops here have laptops, but full blown desktop PCs don't seem to exist here as far as I can tell. I saw one a week ago and it was running Windows 98.
China was already pumping ~$25 android crapphones (Score:5, Informative)
China was already pumping ~$25 android crapphones for half a decade.
Those things sell like hot cakes in South Asia and Africa.
For an even longer period, they were selling $70 arm6 based crapbooks. First ones came during netbook boom, and they are being sold to this day to the same markets I named above. You can't do anything with them other than checking email, playing mp3s, or browsing nineties level websites, but for most people there it is more than enough.
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I see you don't know that Slashdot still doesn't support Unicode, but apparently you're new here.
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peep that four-digit slashdot id, yo
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I see you don't know that Slashdot still doesn't support Unicode, but apparently you're new here.
Some of us are just past caring whether Slashdot looks as incompetent as it actually is when we copy and paste.
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browsing nineties level websites,
I use Gopher you insensitive clod.
Re: NO! Just NO! (Score:1)
More and more printers support wireless printing from mobile devices.
Bigger issue in my experience is the dated OS results in app store updates which break functionality on the device.
Re: NO! Just NO! (Score:1)
Also, Bluetooth keyboards don't need to be re-paired each time you use them, at least as long as you just use them with a single device. They hook right back up when you turn them on. And battery life largely isn't an issue, since they don't have an energy-intensive display. The one
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Indeed. My dad bought a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard and the specs claim it can last TWO YEARS between charging. It can pair to three different devices and you just switch between them on the keyboard. So awesome!
Now, I do agree that there are problems with the OS. Even with a Bluetooth keyboard paired, Android wants to erroneously pop up the onscreen keyboard for no good reason when you don't need it, and then other times when you don't have the Bluetooth keyboard handy, it's impossible to get Android to po
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My dad bought a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard and the specs claim it can last TWO YEARS between charging. It can pair to three different devices and you just switch between them on the keyboard. So awesome!
The K480 with the dial? That thing is awesome.
https://www.logitech.com/en-us... [logitech.com]
Though I only paid $11 for it, not $49, on clearance at Wal-Mart. I don't know why they weren't selling, it's very nice for a bluetooth keyboard.
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K480 is nice but kind of bulky. K380 is more mobile.
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I seem to recall using a sort of "null keyboard" in the past to deal with this problem...not sure what app it was, but this one [google.com] came up on a search for "Android null keyboard."
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They must be paired up at every use
No, they don't, as long as you don't pair them to a different device. And there are even exceptions to that.
are usually much too small
Bigger ones are available.
and are just one more battery powered device that needs to be kept charged.
Bluetooth keyboards last a LONG time on a charge, not even taking into account the ones that use AAA or AA batteries.
Add that to the fact that many schools require homework to be printed out,
Printers that support Cloud printing or bluetooth printing are a thing.
or submitted in certain propitiatory file formats and that lets out doing homework.
Google Docs and android office suites are a thing
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Indeed. And the original article did discuss both writing in Word formats and printing stuff as well.
Lines at the DMV (Score:1)
I renewed my tabs online and went to pick it up at an office once (my procrastination my fault), granted there are some transactions that can't be done online but I feel like a lot of people in the walk up line good have done their stuff online and just jumped in the Internet pickup line.
There seemed like there were 10 or 20 people in the walk up line whereas there were 3 off us in the Internet line. Maybe the digital divide exists and some just want to do it the old fashion way and wait in line.
Another si
Works great until you have to update it. (Score:4, Insightful)
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You just use it until most of your apps stop working and then buy a new one to get a more current OS.
So, just like a cellphone.
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honestly writing a term paper on a tablet sounds impossible if you consider having to have references for formatting, looking at material to source, and having the paper open all on the same seven inch tablet. Sure, if you can split screen on such a cheap device, but doing any sort of word processing on this sounds like a complete and utter cramped mess.
I'm not so sure, especially not with a 10" tablet. And you CAN split the screen with Android Nougat. Besides people were doing wordprocessing on single-tasking machines without any networking back in the 70's and 80's.
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1/2 right (Score:2)
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Also, learn from my mistake: never buy anything by Onda, their build quality is terrible.
The rule is actually that you never buy a product from someone whose trademark is a trick. If it's the same name as a real company, but just a letter or syllable away, it's a trap.
Tech has not been the problem for a long time (Score:2)
If you are poor, you have other concerns like a place to live, food to eat (especially something that doesn't give you diabetes at 25), somone to watch kids while you go to an interview. A cheap prepaid phone with mobile data, has not been a limiting factor for many years. It's not that tech does not help at all, it's just that the potential has been tapped out at this point and other kinds of help are needed. At least in US, obviously greater access to cell phones has important practical uses in developing
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So maybe we need volunteers to teach poor people to toggle "unknown sources" preference and sideload hardcore FOSS app store or custom ROM. But, how much are they missing really? The last big innovation for the poor were service economy apps like Uber and Instacart. You may sleep in the car but you can at least earn a little cash using the same car while awake. Anyway, those are already in the walled garden. What else do you have in mind - not saying it's impossible, but we need to be specific. I guess adul
The tablet is cheaper than internet service (Score:2)
Perhaps this will drive making low price internet service available to low income households.
Hype for jobs (Score:2)
Manufacturers complaining about a lack of talent mean "I can't find anyone who can walk in the door with 5 year experience running this cad/cam/cnc that's only existed for 1 or 2 and who will work for...minimum wage...".
Or maybe
Cheap has been tried before (Score:1)
Not needed (Score:2)
Anyone who wanted a cheap device could already get a used one for very low cost.
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Anyone who wanted a cheap device could already get a used one for very low cost.
Anyone who has bought used Android hardware knows precisely why it was available used, and that reason is that it is no longer supported. Never buy used Android hardware unless it's barely used, and comes from a reputable manufacturer known to release updates.
Re: Not needed (Score:1)
Last 2 phones came from swappa.com. I have no complaints. Of course, every Android device I own gets rooted & has a 3rd party build installed before I start using it.
Google Voice (Score:3)
Not only is Google Voice only available in the States, it also requires a real, physical phone line (land line or mobile) to activate. I really don't think that does anything for people whose lives might be changed by a $50 tablet.
The successful products (Score:2)
In terms of technology the Race to the bottom has been a failing proposition.
Mid 1990's There is a computer called Gateway 2000. During this time they were a bit more expensive then the other PC makers, but in general they were built with good quality components. By the late 1990's and early 2000's Gateway had more or less peaked in their market, so they tried doing little tings over time to make their products, cheaper, to a point where Gateway 2000 PC were a joke.
In the late 1990's there is a company ca
Define digital divide (Score:2)
Will low prices contribute to getting devices into the hands of those who don't have them? Certainly.
Do tablets enable anyone to participate in a digital world? Only to an extent. Tablets, as a hardware form factor, are far better at consumption than production. Anything with audio output and a 24-bit display can consume digital content. But typing on a screen is awkward if not tedious, and touch interfaces are primitive and imprecise compared to traditional pointer hardware. It's entirely possible fo
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Will not help (Score:2)
First of all, it is a stupid idea to force poor people in the arms of big companies like amazon and google. And even, if they could buy a cheap device for mail and web, they also need Internet access. As this either requires money for a connection at home or the money of a latte at the local coffee place, this is out of scope for them financially. Also the digital divide is not only a monetary issue, but also an education issue. If you want to help, train them in how to use a library and how to read and und
Yeah, about that (Score:2)
It ain't the price of a laptop + internet keeping them offline, it is the want/need that needs to be addressed.
/ gonna go on a limb here, if you can afford cable TV you don't get welfare.
I may sound like a Trumper here, but I
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I know 4-5 people on welfare. They all have cable TV ($140+/month)
Are you sure they're paying that much, because locally the cable company has a basic service for about $20.
///If you use EBT (food stamps) to buy anything but dried beans, rice, and canned tomatoes, you don't get welfare.
Really? You did know the largest demographic of poor people is children right? And what about people with disabilities? People who lost their jobs when a factory shut down? Rice and beans only for them as well?
I may sound like a Trumper here, but I work and pay my taxes and I'm fucking tired of supporting these leeches.
Nice dehumanization there. Did you ever think that they have also worked in the past? That they basically might be between jobs?
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"Poverty has, in large cities, very different appearances: it is often concealed in splendor, and often in extravagance. It is the care of a very great part of mankind to conceal their indigence from the rest; they support themselves by temporary expedients, and every day is lost in contriving for the morrow."
What signifies, says some one, giving halfpence to beggars? they only lay it out in gin or tobacco. "And why should they be denied such sweeteners of the
Pathetic posters. (Score:1)
The Fire is not bad hardware. (Score:1)
Heh. I'm reading this story on my Rooted & re-imaged 7" Amazon Fire, running lp-fire-nexus-rom-20161124 (Android 5.1). It's a nice little machine, but it took me a full day to get the Exploit that gave me control to work. Not so simple for someone on the wrong side of the Digital Divide.