T-Mobile Raises Deprioritization Threshold To 30GB (tmonews.com) 60
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TmoNews: T-Mobile's new deprioritization threshold is 30GB of usage in a single billing cycle. While T-Mo didn't make an official announcement about the change, you can see in this cached page that the network management policy says 28GB: "Based on network statistics for the most recent quarter, customers who use more than 28GB of data during a billing cycle will have their data usage prioritized below other customers' data usage for the remainder of the billing cycle in times and at locations where there are competing customer demands for network resources." Navigating to the webpage today now says 30GB. What this change means is that if you use more than 30GB of data in one billing cycle, your data usage will be prioritized below others for the remainder of that billing cycle. The only time that you're likely to see the effects of that, though, is when you're at a location on the network that is congested, during which time you may see slower speeds. Once you move to a different location or the congestion goes down, your speeds will likely go back up. And once the new billing cycle rolls around, your usage will be reset.
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Remember when... (Score:1)
/. had news that matters? More science and less corporate plugs please.
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Hey, got to make money somehow... But you are right, it makes it hard for the ad blocking software to catch them...
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But you are right, it makes it hard for the ad blocking software to catch them...
Well, what really annoys me is the amount of ##.col${RANDOM}.scw-horizontal.stackcommerce-widget entries I have in my adblock filters now.
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Remember when Slashdot had news that mattered?
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Re:Where's the class action lawsuit about "limitle (Score:4, Insightful)
Your traffic might go from 25MB/s down to 22.8MB/s. They aren't blocking traffic, they aren't stopping your traffic. They are just making it so that others have a fair share. Compared to all the other operators, they are doing it right.
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if everyone streamed HD youtube all day nobody would get any data at all
Your math skills are lacking. If everyone did that, everyone would be getting as much as possible from their unlimited plans, that's a lot of data.
His solution is obvious, split it evenly between all the customers, without penalizing any of them unequally. In order to provide more bandwidth better technology and coverage might be necessary.
Re:Where's the class action lawsuit about "limitle (Score:4, Interesting)
Limitless data does not mean limitless data to the detriment of other people.
Even if they slow you down, they're still not limiting the amount of data that you can download.
Don't ever come to Canada, where they charge you $5 per gig over your already expensive 1/2/5/10GB data plan.
Re:Where's the class action lawsuit about "limitle (Score:4, Interesting)
Don't ever come to Canada, where they charge you $5 per gig over your already expensive 1/2/5/10GB data plan.
What's funny is - with T-Mobile, you roam for free on Rodgers (I think that's the network). Last year I headed up to Vancouver for a meeting - a minute or two after I crossed the border, I got a text telling me I had the same coverage in Canada as in the US - for free.
Maybe you should buy service from T-Mobile in the US and then head home...
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Maybe you should buy service from T-Mobile in the US and then head home...
You must use a majority of your data in the US (over a few months) to use that plan otherwise they may ban you.
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Limitless data does not mean limitless data to the detriment of other people.
It's to the detriment of others because they do not upgrade their infrastructure enough. It's their problem if they do not upgrade enough to get the bandwidth required to serve their unlimited customers.
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You know as well as I do that whatever upgrades they do, users like you will use all of it and then complain again.
You still have unlimited data right now, upgraded infrastructures or not.
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Nobody forces them to offer unlimited plans if they are not able to deliver.
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Of course there has to be a limit, there is only so much bandwidth available. But, they shouldn't fucking advertise it as limitless when there is actually a limit.
What does this matter. (Score:2)
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Most plans lower you to 2G speeds well below that.
T-Mobile lowers you to 4G speeds. I know reading is hard but FFS why comment if you don't have a fucking clue?
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And what is reduce you to 4G supposed to mean? There is no speed higher than 4G except for some companies playing with so-called 5G networks.
Now back
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T-Mo branded accounts are different then.
I get throttled only near busy cells (based on observation such as: at the mall while lots of other people are there).
Near my house I don't see any throttling at all.
While I'm being throttled my phone is still reporting LTE, but I am seeing speeds drop to about 40-70% of normal.
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I get throttled only near busy cells (based on observation such as: at the mall while lots of other people are there).
That's not throttling. That's T-Mobile's network getting slammed.
Throttling is the deliberate, policy-based use of the network to constrain a user's throughput lower than default "best effort" settings. Traditionally this was done by forcing the user from a higher data rate technology to a lower one, such as bumping a user off the LTE network and onto 3G (HSPA/CDMA), or from a 3G network onto 2G (EDGE/1xRTT). More advanced networks can now do this by using LTE Quality of Service [netmanias.com] features to 1.) set a maxim
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I may not have all the facts, but I certainly have a clue. Something you don't realize when your world comes to consist of what is contained in a single article.
I'm a TMO customer. Nice try troll.
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Why a threshold? (Score:2, Interesting)
Why not just prioritize all traffic by previous traffic used per billing cycle? So light users generally get top prioritization and heavy users get gradually lower prioritization but nobody has to pick a number where it suddenly switches form one category to another.
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Why three tiers? If fewer is better, why not two, or just one? If more is better, why not ten, or a hundred, or a thousand... which in the limit becomes what I was suggesting.
Unless someone can give a reason why some particular arbitrary number of tiers is best, it seems the obvious default is either no tiers (which is to say, one tier, everyone gets equal priority) or continuous ranking of prioritization like I suggested.
Efficiency with 156-bit frames, legacy, simplicity (Score:2)
GSM data is sent in 156-bit (18 byte) frames, which are then combined into superframes. So anyway the prioritization decision is made every few bytes - millions of times for one video. It needs to be fast, very fast, and a flag indicating "high" or "low" priority is fast - much much faster than computing and comparing a numerical score for each frame to see who is highest, then multiplying the reciprocal of that by time in queue.
Also, long before T-Mobile started prioritizing based on usage so far in month
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GSM data is sent in 156-bit (18 byte) frames
LTE != GSM
Still, 5ms or 10s (Score:2)
LTE uses 5ms-10ms frames. So still, that's 100-200 switching decisions per second, per connection.
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Why not just prioritize all traffic by previous traffic used per billing cycle? So light users generally get top prioritization and heavy users get gradually lower prioritization but nobody has to pick a number where it suddenly switches form one category to another.
I was thinking the same thing. When there is no congestion, everyone gets top speed, otherwise priotiize the lightest users. Heck - the light users probably won't make much of a dent in available bandwidth anyway.
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That makes me think of another good reason to do this: since light users won't make much of a dent in available bandwidth, prioritizing them ensures that the largest number of users get full speed for all their usage. Like how if you have many things to do, you can get more of them done sooner by doing the quick ones first.
Sounds reasonable. (Score:2)
Just wish they had better coverage around me.
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A REAL clampdown on anti-social bandwidth usage. (Score:2)
I totally misread the headline as a 30GB Deportation Threshold.
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beat me to it! LOL
Nope (Score:1)
My Pay as you go $40/ month is still 2Gigs. Rising tide it ain't
This is just crazy. (Score:1)