Motorola Unveils Droid Turbo 2, Claims Shatterproof Display, 48 Hour Battery (hothardware.com) 111
MojoKid writes: We've seen leaks and teasers for Motorola's new Droid Turbo 2 Android flagship for weeks. However, the Lenovo-owned company officially announced the smartphone, and it offers two highly sought after features: a long-running battery and a shatterproof display. Its battery has a 3760mAh capacity, allowing the Droid Turbo 2 to operate for up to 48 hours per charge. And if that wasn't enough, Motorola has incorporated Quick Charging support which allows the device to achieve 13 hours of battery life from a mere 15-minute charge. The most talked about feature, however, is its shatterproof display, which Motorola calls Moto ShatterShield. Motorola says that it's "the world's first phone screen guaranteed not to crack or shatter. The display sports a flexible AMOLED panel to absorb shocks, dual touch layers, a rigid aluminum backing, as well as interior and exterior lenses. At the launch event, Motorola was dropping the phone from about 6 feet up, direct to concrete and it was holding up to the abuse just fine.
Unbreakables (Score:4, Informative)
Oh we will put your phone to the test, Motorola.
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Obligatory 'unbreakable phone' video [youtube.com]
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Guaranteed not to crack or shatter... but will it blend?!
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Will it blend?
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Oh we will put your phone to the test, Motorola.
Yeah, unbreakable usually means really hard and expensive to fix when it does break.
But How Thin? (Score:2)
The fasionistas all need to know how thin it is.
Re:But How Thin? (Score:5, Insightful)
You forget:
-How "premium" does it looks? I couldn't stand a plastic phone within my rubber case. It must be in metal or glass.
-Does it "feel" cheap?
-Are there stereo (or why not 7.1 surround?) speakers on the front?
-Does it looks new or my friends will think I have a 2013 phone?
-Is there a fruit logo on it?
-Is it overpriced? I wouldn't want my friends to think I couldn't afford an expensive phone.
-How good is the main camera, and I mean the front one? Does it records 4k video good enough to film me waiting in a line for days for my next phone?
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Great! On which place was security updates? That is my most sought out feature!
Security updates? You want an update, you buy a new phone, that's how the Android ecosystem works.
(I realise that Motorola are better, in the sense of "less awful", than most, but I'm still waiting for my Moto G upgrade via my carrier).
Shatterproof? (Score:3, Insightful)
A shatterproof screen?
Challenge accepted...am I limited to the caliber of ammunition I can use, or is it unrestricted?
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A shatterproof screen?
Challenge accepted...am I limited to the caliber of ammunition I can use, or is it unrestricted?
That was my first thought as well. If it holds up to my 9mm I will be impressed. 5.56 and I will be shocked. If it stops the 7.62x54 from my Mosin then Motorola needs to be selling this stuff to the military as next generation body armor.
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Weapons do nothing of the sort. A gun sitting on a table doesn't suddenly go off killing everyone in the room. Just as swords don't dismember, guns don't kill. There has to be a person in the situation doing the action, or the "weapon" is just an inert piece of metal.
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A Mosin Nagant? A bolt action rifle that was designed over a century ago gives you a problem? A rifle that makes most modern hunting rifles look like the space shuttle in comparison?
It's not like you're talking about a Dreyse needle gun here, this is a Mosin Nagant! You don't even need to hit your target with it, you just knock it over with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange. Your sight adjustment goes out to 12 miles. You use it to shoot deer in the neighbouring county and have the carcasses mailed back to you. You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in the Ukraine and it works just fine.
Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in t
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Why do you have such kind of weapons?
9mm-fairly cheap and fun to shoot at the range
5.56- won a raffle from a coworker whose son's Little League team was having an AR-15 raffle as a fundraiser
7.62x54mm-as a history buff (even have a degree in History) I have an interest in historical military firearms. A 1942 Mosin-Nagant in this case, but I also have a family heirloom Lorenz musket from the Civil War and plan to own an M1 Carbine, Mauser 98K, and a Colt Navy or similar-type revolver.
Re:Shatterproof? (Score:5, Insightful)
>5.56- won a raffle from a coworker whose son's Little League team was having an AR-15 raffle as a fundraiser
This is the most Murica sentence in the history of the world.
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This is the most Murica sentence in the history of the world.
To each his own; I was raised in Asia (by progressive intellectuals, no less; no sports or firearms in our home). I'm vegan and Buddhist (of a sort)... and I think this sounds fucking awesome. On a related note, it's a goddamn tragedy for our species that the Global Elite have managed to render most of the planet unable to protect themselves (rest assured us "Muricans" will be next) but if while in the process of being enslaved - financially and otherwise - you've got to drink the Koolaid, I suppose you mig
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goddamn tragedy for our species that the Global Elite have managed to render most of the planet unable to protect themselves
On the other hand, its a goddamn miracle that most of the planet governed by the "global elite" doesn't have the need to protect themselves since crime is down so much after we stopped using leaded gasoline....black helicopters, government thugs and other crackpot conspiracies of doom notwithstanding. But hey its a free country, be as paranoid as you want no matter how counterproductive it gets.
How much do you think global life expectancy would increase if everyone had an AR-15? The NRA makes plenty of kool
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How much do you think global life expectancy would increase if everyone had an AR-15?
This meme of everything going chaotic [if everyone were armed] is perpetuated by shitheads who assume that just because they have no self control, the rest of us don't either. Personally, I strongly suspect that there'd be an initial period of unrest, while those like yourself naturally get weeded-out by the rest of us. ;)
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uhhh...so your counterpoint to (presumably) change my mind is to say I'll be killed? I find that strangely unconvincing but I do understand the way to argue on the internet is to get to "fuck off and die" ASAP. And since I'm already down the rabbit hole....
This meme of everything going chaotic [if everyone were armed] is perpetuated by shitheads ..... Personally, I strongly suspect that there'd be an initial period of unrest....
What does that make you? ;)
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Your jealousy is showing. You might want to get that looked at, preferably by a mental health professional.
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I own several AR-15s in varied configurations. They've not even killed a nommy animal. They've killed some paper, so there's that. I don't even use them for self-defense purposes - they're just fun to shoot and really good at killing paper. If you've never spent a day mercilessly slaughtering innocent paper then you're missing out on a whole lot of fun. It's actually pretty intellectual, or it can be. It's fun to see just how far you can push the envelope and the AR-15 community means building out a special
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If you can pull yourself out of your trembling puddle of irrational fear, target shooting can be a very chill activity. Consistently accurate shooting requires a great deal of self-awareness and self-control. I find it to be very relaxing and almost zen-like. Holding your concentration through the noise and recoil of the shot is also extremely good for mastering meditation.
Shooting other people for fun or profit is pretty fucked up, but there's nothing inherently un-chill about firearms. It sounds like the
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I see a personal defense round (9mm), a varmit hunting round (5.56) and a good deer round (7.62x54mmR). Is there something wrong with those?
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I see a personal defense round (9mm), a varmit hunting round (5.56) and a good deer round (7.62x54mmR). Is there something wrong with those?
I've always seen it as 12,7x109 for self-defence (I love my Dushka), 20x110 Hispano for varmits (they may be in deep underground burrows), and maybe 37x155 for the deer (because I like jerked venison). Is that so wrong?
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...next generation body armor.
I could use a vest made entirely of Droid Turbo 2 devices, but would it outperform my vest made of old Nokias? ;)
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Wasn't the point of old Nokias that they exploded on the slightest impact? It was kind of like reactive armor on tanks...
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Wasn't the point of old Nokias that they exploded on the slightest impact? It was kind of like reactive armor on tanks...
I don't think so...the last time someone dropped a Nokia from any real height, all the dinosaurs died.
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Don't be surprized if what actually happens is your bullet goes clean through and leaves only a bullet-sized hole in the phone, without shattering the screen.
High-powered weapons are notorious for that. The R4 requires custom made extra thick falling-plate targets for soldier training because it's bullets will go clean through a standard 4mm target without knocking it over.
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Don't be surprized if what actually happens is your bullet goes clean through and leaves only a bullet-sized hole in the phone, without shattering the screen.
So you're saying I'd have to use two layers of Nokias?
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A shatterproof screen?
Challenge accepted...am I limited to the caliber of ammunition I can use, or is it unrestricted?
That was my first thought as well. If it holds up to my 9mm I will be impressed. 5.56 and I will be shocked. If it stops the 7.62x54 from my Mosin then Motorola needs to be selling this stuff to the military as next generation body armor.
It doesn't need to stop bullets, just not shatter when struck by them. A clean, round hole would satisfy the claim.
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It doesn't need to do either, because the warranty doesn't cover misuse, neglect, or deliberate harm.
What, haven't you ever accidentally shot your phone?
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A shatterproof screen?
Challenge accepted...am I limited to the caliber of ammunition I can use, or is it unrestricted?
The screen is "guaranteed not to crack or shatter." There is a difference between "the screen cracking" and "JustAnotherOldGuy cracking the screen".
It's like the difference between dying and being murdered: this screen is guaranteed not to spontaneously crack, but if _you_ crack it (drop, bend, touch too forcefully with your finger) then the guarantee is not valid.
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The screen is "guaranteed not to crack or shatter." There is a difference between "the screen cracking" and "JustAnotherOldGuy cracking the screen".
Gee, thanks Mr Pedant! But are you sure? I mean, really, really sure?
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Oh, I'm sure. But not really, really sure.
Well alrighty then. Just checking. ;)
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Will it blend?
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Will it blend?
Only Mr Science knows for sure...but I'd suspect it would. Might have to use a hammermill [youtube.com], but still...
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One big big big downside (Score:5, Insightful)
Appears ts a Verizon only phone. You'd have to kidnap my family and hold them for ransom to get me to go back to Verizon. Motorola makes good phones, but I'll stick with the Moto X for my carrier freedom.
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0. If you actually travel most everywhere in the U.S., nationwide coverage is a thing. If not, you'll lok at maps and rule out the two carriers that don't do a good job where you will actually be.
1. Some carriers are a lot more honest and forthcoming than others. Some about some things, others about others.
2. Everyone has anecdotal evidence of how their carrier is the worst. Useless. Ask the crowd, and sooner or later you will find some are truly devious, while others are merely self-centered. They all
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Motorola makes good phones, ...
Motorola used to make good phones, now they are owned by Lenovo and are doubtless chock full of Chinese malware.
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And the Verizon version is only 32GB. Are you kidding me? This is 2015. It should be at least 64GB or 128GB.
That would make the phone too expensive and it would be a commercial failure.
The most popular option is still 16GB.
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Most people have all the applications they want under 1GB.
16GB is definitely not a joke.
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What?
The option is for 32 or 64 as that is what the manufacturer offers. It is a damn site better than the 8 or 16 of most phones on the shelves.
Oh, and it also supports a 2 TB (!!) SD card.
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PLEASE, please don't kidnap my ex-wife who lives alone at 224 Krasten Lane NW in Milwaukee WI, 3rd floor apartment 11!
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There's a GSM version as well. The DROID brand is licensed by Verizon from LucasFilm, but the GSM version is called Moto X Force.
Shatterproof, you say? (Score:2)
Motorola Unveils Droid Turbo 2, Claims Shatterproof Display
Yeah... I've heard that one before [youtube.com]
48 hour battery? (Score:2)
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Hows it do in your pocket w keys? (Score:2)
Clumsy has become fashionable. (Score:2)
We all totally understand battery life being a major factor in new design, although most of us have had to deal with shitty batteries long enough that not plugging it in every day would be downright weird by now.
What I fail to grasp as a (reasonable?) user of smartphones for the last decade, is how often people crack the shit out of their screens, which apparently happens so damn often that it's now THE major feature in new smartphone tech.
It's strange that we market anti-clumsy as some kind of awesome thin
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It's because a large majority of people are too stupid to not put their phone in a butt pocket and sit on it.
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We all totally understand battery life being a major factor in new design, although most of us have had to deal with shitty batteries long enough that not plugging it in every day would be downright weird by now.
What I fail to grasp as a (reasonable?) user of smartphones for the last decade, is how often people crack the shit out of their screens, which apparently happens so damn often that it's now THE major feature in new smartphone tech.
It's strange that we market anti-clumsy as some kind of awesome thing.
I take my phone out of my pocket at least 10 times a day (its my MFA authenticator for a number of services) so that's over 3000 times a year, and if I'm unlucky, I only need to drop it one of those times to crack the screen. I keep my phone in a protective case and haven't cracked the screen yet out of a half dozen or so drops.
Dear Motorola.... (Score:5, Insightful)
No thanks. You fooled me twice Motorola, and HTC fooled me once. A google NEXUS phone is the only android I will ever own from now on.
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Lenovo - the same company that installed malware on its laptops now makes phones under the Motorola brand.
Why would anyone trust that?
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No shit. My first Motorola smartphone bricked itself after being dropped a foot onto carpet. My second Motorola phone stopped getting OTA updates a week after I bought it. My Samsung Galaxy S4 is incredibly unstable and requires daily reboots.
On the other hand, my Nexus 7 1st gen had the mysterious and completely ignored "slows to a crawl if you use more than 80% of internal storage" bug and became too slow to use after updating to lollipop.
Maybe I just won't buy smartphones or tablets anymore.
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Was thinking the same about Verizon and the first Droid Turbo.
I'm intrigued by the DT2, because it has an SD slot, something that GOOG and AAPL have hated and tried to phase out in favor of their cloud offerings for data transfer.
But Verizon's insistence on locked bootloaders and their sloth-on-valium pace of providing security updates is a dealbreaker. As long as carrie
"Guaranteed" not to crack and shatter? (Score:3)
Does it mean that if it shatters for any reason, I get my money back, or, at least a free repair?
For me that would be a reasonable assumption. However we've seen many waterproof phones where water damage wasn't covered by the warranty.
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Yeah, but no one wants a processor so slow that it takes a week to load Angry Birds.
What I nowadays always want to know first: (Score:5, Insightful)
is the battery user-replaceable? How many screws do I have to remove? How many flat cables detach? The answers I want to hear are: yes, 0, 0. Acceptable answers are: kind of, 6, 0.
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For this phone, No. I don't know that it is even accessible to someone who knows what they are doing.
To answer the AC above me, the phone has support for up to 2 TB SD card.
Nice it won't break or crack. (Score:2)
But you can scratch it with your finger nail....
You can have one or the other but not both.
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Tthe articles I read didn't explain it like that. Yeah that is workable.
Only one real defect (Score:3)
Verizon.
Fuck you Motorola (Score:3)
A little liquid nitrogen... (Score:2)
Great, now (Score:3)
Gravel not concrete (Score:1)
A drop test unto concrete is nothing. The glass will not encounter the surface, only the raised edges will. A real test is to drop it on gravel, or loose pebbles on top of concrete. Then those pesky little rocks will punch the glass. A second test would be for my fat niece to sit on it on a couch.
Age old story of ShatterProof vs ScratchProof (Score:1)
Take my money NOW! (Score:2)