Nokia Networks Demonstrates 5G Mobile Speeds Running At 10Gbps Via 73GHz 55
Mark.JUK writes The Brooklyn 5G Summit appears to have provided a platform for Nokia Networks to demo a prototype of their future 5G (5th Generation) mobile network technology, which they claim can already deliver data speeds of 10 Gigabits per second using millimeter Wave (mmW) frequency bands of 73GHz. The demo also made use of 2×2 Multiple-Input and Multiple-Output (MIMO) links via single carrier Null Cyclic Prefix modulation and frame size of 100 micro seconds, although crucially no information about the distance of this demo transmission has been released and at 73GHz you'd need quite a dense network in order to overcome the problems of high frequency signal coverage and penetration.
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Don't worry in the news in Australia tomorrow there will be a story vindicating the push to halt the fibre to the premise roll out as we will be able to get more speed, without annoying cables, with upcoming 5g technology!
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The vast majority certainly can not get excellent speeds from wireless. Nomatter how to slice it it's a limited resource. Expensive point to point gear on licenced RF can be touchy.
Wireless is a great adjunct to a well planed fiber network but your never going to replace whats potentially terabits a second per home of a well laid out fiber network.
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a well deployed and layed out wireless network.
Like "they" have done so far in the US? They've been deploying for 30+ years and STILL don't have a well deployed network! They were supposed to be 100% done by 1985, before the FCC sold it's soul and started accepting cash for extensions rather than selling the unfulfilled licenses to competitors!
And now you expect them to deploy a 4k radius network in any usable amount of time?
Riiiiiiight.
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But what is 73 GHz going to do to your body?!?!
Re: LOL no info on distance (Score:2)
Nothing. It's not ionizing radiation.
Didja ever have butter on a pop tart? (Score:5, Funny)
10 gigabits per second! Sweet! I can run through my entire Verizon monthly 2 gig allottment in under 2 seconds, and run up $10 a second per gig in overage!
Re:Didja ever have butter on a pop tart? (Score:5, Funny)
Your calculations are off by a factor of 8. You'd get whole 16 seconds, not 2, you ungrateful customer you!
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your maths really really sucks. at 10gb per second you to 1.25 gigabytes per second or as the OP said, less than 2 seconds for his 2gig quota.
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I guess a wooosh is in order.
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For you, yes.
WOOOOSH
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No, he was saying, rightfully, that a GB is 8 Gb.
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My thoughts exactly. The bandwidth caps are so low and the prices are so high that honestly I'd be happier with 2G speeds and unlimited data. By all means, make it slow as shit... I just don't want to worry about the data. And if I have to worry about it then the last thing I need is for it to be so fast that I can blow through my data budget in an eye blink.
Until the business model changes radically in cellular data, we can't have faster speeds. The costs are already unreasonable at existing speeds.
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That's one of the reasons that I like T-Mobile. I can go over my data allotment, and all they do is throttle me.
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::cough:: T-Mobile.
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They carriers need to offer reasonable rates for data.
I would be happy to drop my cable internet for a wireless option, but it isn't economical.
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Missing the point (Score:2)
Funny, but completely misses the point. The real news here is that mobile data speeds are going to start competing with traditional wired home ISPs in the near future. Verizon has already stated they are not laying any more [expensive] new fiber cables to focus on their mobile services. You can read between the lines. As for pricing, the market will figure that out for sure. Consider this very real possibility: what if a mobile provider had a 5G [or next-gen] cell tower in a suburban area and offered everyo
Quicker to burn thru your cap (Score:2)
Faster speeds means the sooner you'll burn thru your cap.
Millimeter Wave? (Score:3)
Shouldn't this be named "1/25 of an inch Wave", or "OTFOAIW"?
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Now, if (Score:2)
this has any appreciable range, and instead of reserving the band for cellular towers, they put this stuff in consumer available gear, we can all interconnect wirelessly and tell comcast, verizon, et-al to go to hell.
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Absorption by water molecules really picks up above about 6 GHz. This limits the practical range for high frequency signals.
Seriously. (Score:5, Insightful)
faster cellular networks aren't all that interesting. It will take forever for them to be deployed, and
Now give me an 802.11ZZZ or something that can do just 20Mb/s or so at 10 miles NLOS with non-directional antennas, and you've got something useful.
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faster cellular networks aren't all that interesting. It will take forever for them to be deployed, and
Now give me an 802.11ZZZ or something that can do just 20Mb/s or so at 10 miles NLOS with non-directional antennas, and you've got something useful.
And, by necessity of physics, massively wasteful of rf frequency. Not sure why you need this, also?
Some missing parameters (Score:2)
they claim can already deliver data speeds of 10 Gigabits per second using millimeter Wave (mmW) frequency bands of 73GHz.
Over what distance? And with what power requirements? How many concurrent users at what bandwidth?
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2gb has been a standard data cap for nearly ten years.
in markets where people are shafted anyways...
and hey, even when they introduced gprs, the standard limits in markets where you weren't getting shafted were 100mbytes and 20mbytes. but that was a lot after 1999. in 1999 you would have been paying per minute on gsm to get a 9600bps connection. that's why gprs when it came was such a huge booster - it made mobile web possible.
basically what I'm trying to get to is that usa data caps have been fairly statio
Ha ha! (Score:1)
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Depending on the distance, a carrier pidgeon might be faster since it can carry a lot of packets, probably at least a few TB of flash.
Re: Ha ha! (Score:2)
You still need to write and read data to the flash cards - that's going to be significantly slower than 10gbps.
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Just RAID 75 of them (and get a really big pigeon)
huh (Score:1)
at 73GHz you'd need quite a dense network in order to overcome the problems of high frequency signal coverage and penetration.
What's the odd cancer spike near the 73ghz installation?
Re:huh (Score:4, Informative)
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Ahh some one else aware.
Check out the research done on manipulating rats emotional state via EM at the same freqs as cellphones.
You can find the less "conspiratorial" view at "scholar.google.com
Here's a starter:
http://informahealthcare.com/d... [informahealthcare.com]
Abstract
Introduction. The interaction of mobile phone radio-frequency electromagnetic radiation (RF-EMR) with the brain is a serious concern of our society.
Objective. We evaluated the effect of RF-EMR from mobile phones on passive avoidance behaviour and hippocampal morphology in rats.
Materials and methods. Healthy male albino Wistar rats were exposed to RF-EMR by giving 50 missed calls (within 1 hour) per day for 4 weeks, keeping a GSM (0.9 GHz/1.8 GHz) mobile phone in vibratory mode (no ring tone) in the cage. After the experimental period, passive avoidance behaviour and hippocampal morphology were studied.
Results. Passive avoidance behaviour was significantly affected in mobile phone RF-EMR-exposed rats demonstrated as shorter entrance latency to the dark compartment when compared to the control rats. Marked morphological changes were also observed in the CA3 region of the hippocampus of the mobile phone-exposed rats in comparison to the control rats.
Conclusion. Mobile phone RF-EMR exposure significantly altered the passive avoidance behaviour and hippocampal morphology in rats.
Read More: http://informahealthcare.com/d... [informahealthcare.com]
Speed vs bandwidth? (Score:2)
I would take even 4G bandwidth anytime, if it could match the speed of ADSL, and I mean latency. I'm stuck with ADSL, fiber is in 50 m away, but none is going to dig it here.
I hope someone could standardize realistic measure of speed, that takes account the latency. It's really important when browsing, as usual webpage these days contact to so many different sources.
yea yea yea..... (Score:2)
How much bandwidth? (Score:1)
1) How much of the available frequency does this chew up, and 2) if it is directional, how tight is the beam?
These are important considerations for things like mobile-service, which is typically not "narrow-beam."
If the weather issue can be worked out, I see this as being useful for "fixed-wireless" applications, such as broadcast-television (think "cable TV without the cable and without the dish") and point-to-point communications (think "wireless U-Verse").
Subject to downtime due to weather-related interf
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Higher frequencies are easier to form into directed beams dynamically with phased arrays. Not that I have any indication that Nokia has done this.
Grumpy cat response (Score:2)
I don't see much point to be honest.
For a start, telcos these days have very stringent bandwidth caps. For an example, here in Singapore, a 2 year mobile data plan with 12GB/month costs ~USD 200/month. Other than light usage (e.g. browsing, bit of skype and youtube), you can't do much.
And what about power consumption ? how fast can it drain your phone battery ?
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Nokia (Score:2)
I remember my grandpa used to go on about them.
Nokia still exists? (Score:1)
Nokia still exists?