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Google Announces Android 5.1 172

An anonymous reader writes: Google has officially announced Android Lollipop 5.1. This is a small update to the mobile operating system, and focuses on stability and performance. The main new features include support for multiple SIM cards, high definition voice calls on supported devices, and the ability to join Wi-Fi networks and manage Bluetooth pairings through Quick Settings. The biggest new feature is "Device Protection." They say, "With Device Protection, your lost or stolen device will remain locked until you sign in with your Google account — even if someone resets your device to factory settings. This feature will be available on most Android phones and tablets shipped with Android 5.1 in addition to Nexus 6 and Nexus 9."
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Google Announces Android 5.1

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  • I hope the Device Protection feature is optional. I'd hate to think my device gets bricked because I delete my Google account or forget the password.
    • by mlts ( 1038732 )

      AFAIK, you can turn off the Device Administrator function, and that functionality will be removed.

      • AFAIK, you can turn off the Device Administrator function, and that functionality will be removed.

        I have used Prey for years. It is a known quantity, it works well, and doesn't come with the inherent problems of a Google app.

        Would it work after a factory reset? No. But that difference isn't enough to get me to switch.

        • AFAIK, you can turn off the Device Administrator function, and that functionality will be removed.

          I have used Prey for years. It is a known quantity, it works well, and doesn't come with the inherent problems of a Google app. Would it work after a factory reset? No. But that difference isn't enough to get me to switch.

          Prey solves a slightly different problem. The purpose of device protection isn't to help you recover your device, it's to prevent thieves from benefiting from stealing your device. As such, it will only work if broadly deployed, because we need to build a "herd immunity" effect. There may be some devices that can be stolen usefully, but if most can't thieves will stop targeting Android devices. This is why it's not an app but part of the base operating system.

    • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

      I'd hate to think my device gets bricked because I delete my Google account or forget the password.

      Don't worry. If you forget your Google password you can reset it from the website. They'll send a security validation code to your mo---
      Oh.. Yeah...

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I made the mistake of updating my original Nexus 7 to 5.0. What a buggy mess! I quickly put it back to 4.4 and have no intention of updating it any further. Granted that the original 7 is getting very long in the tooth and I don't really expect google to maintain backwards compatibility to old hardware.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by bolek_b ( 246528 )
      My feelings exactly. I bought a Nexus 7 (2013) last year and loved it. Then, at some unfortunate moment, I have confirmed the "upgrade". The result was ugly UI (not such a surprise, given the Google track record with arrogant GMail changes, but for Material UI they probably hired the brain behind Windows 8 tiles), performance like some 1$ chinese toy (screen massively tearing while scrolling text web page, ffs!), apps crashing just about all the time... and I find myself the great Android device maybe twice
  • Their Flagship the M8 is still on 4.4.3 not even 4.4.4

    Never buying HTC ever again.

    • by dfsmith ( 960400 )
      That's the price you pay for believing in your carrier's warranty (Verizon/AT&T?). If you're happy being out of waranty, then just install the updates yourself. (I converted my AT&T M8 to the GPE load, and have been very happy.)
    • I have an HTC M8 on Sprint and installed Lollipop two weeks ago.
      • Mod parent up, my HTC M8 got 5.0.1 months ago on the O2 network.
        I think it depends on the carrier as well as the manufacturer.

    • by gl4ss ( 559668 )

      does it work?
      would you like new UI better?

      on tablets I don't like the double drawer shit for example.

  • by Pow ( 107003 ) on Monday March 09, 2015 @08:01PM (#49220685) Homepage

    https://code.google.com/p/andr... [google.com]

    This is ridiculous.

    I'm fed up with issues I've had with Google Nexus line Android devices:
    1) Nexus 7 first gen. Enable encryption and device becomes superslow due to not having a proper fstrim support.
    2) Galaxy Nexus. No more updates after 4.3, not even security updates.
    3) Nexus 4. This recent dialer issue. I'm still getting updates but what good are they if they only break things that worked before?

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      2) Galaxy Nexus. No more updates after 4.3, not even security updates.

      Hey now, you (and I) may be stuck at 4.3 but we're still getting updates on the stuff that matters. Other than the vulnerable web browser, that is.

      Of course, Google Apps updates have made the phone practically unusable, I mean, it was a really fast really slick phone when it was new. Now it's a laggy thing that takes seconds to do anything. Typing on it is not an exercise in frustration as it stalls, catches up, stalls, etc.

      And I thought

  • Great idea... if we could get handsets in the US that supported it.
  • does that make you a Sucker?

  • by Anonymous Coward
  • Oblig. xkcd (Score:4, Funny)

    by thebes ( 663586 ) on Monday March 09, 2015 @08:50PM (#49221139)
  • Kind of a specific problem, but I hope they actually fixed the stupid "doesn't recognize opus files" [google.com] bug, given that 5.0 was officially supposed to natively support opus audio.
  • Does anyone know if Device Protection can work with rooted phones or jailbroken ones?

    Or rather, if you set Device Protection on it, and "lost your password", can you root it and use it by installing another rom?

    • That will depend on whether you can get into recovery or not and whether you can get into recovery or not will depend on the exploit used on your phone.

      I suspect that in the case of nexus branded products the answer will be no because people haven't had to hack the bootloader to achieve root. If you were look at something like the sony xperia x3 then probably yes because you are already attacking a known vulnerability in the boot loader to access recovery.

  • I've heard some horror stories from people who've had their Google accounts auto-banned due to overzealous spam filters for the Play Store, Adwords and things like that, and been unable to get to speak to a human at Google about it. What happens if you protect your phone so that you need to sign into your Google account, then you lose your Google account?

  • by RubberDogBone ( 851604 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @04:11AM (#49222959)

    Lollypop has so many GUI issues, and none are addressed.

    For example, the stock appearance of the settings menu with ultra bright white background cannot be changed. So if you open Settings in any kind of dark place like a movie theater, your car at night, or a bedroom, you eyes GET BLASTED BUT FULL ON ULTRA BRIGHT BULLSHIT that cannot be toned down. Compare to 4.2 and before where the menus where white text on a gray or black background. Worse, there is no way to change this. You are stuck wincing if you need to use the menus in the dark. And you lose all ability to remain private or avoid disturbing others.

    The automatic dimming feature -which you might suspect would fix this complaint- does not actually work. In a bright environment, auto dimming dims the screen to unusable. And in a dim environment, it actually makes it so dim you can't see to undo it. But if you turn it off, you get BLASTED by that damn GUI with all it's bright white crap. Auto dimming USED to work.

    The "battery is fully charged" info box appears even when the screensaver is running, and you need to do that because the super bright menus and status bars now leave significant image ghosting on the screen. For the first time ever on a mobile device, I have to run the multicolor screensaver AND a burn-in removal app periodically just to remove the hole in the screen where the status bar normally appears. Again, the issue is the overall brightness of the GUI contrasting with the rest of the visual elements.

    Those things plus apps crashing, loss of root, needing to be rebooted twice a day which takes about three minutes before the desktop is actually working and usable, awful plummeting battery life, sluggish performance trying to open the dialer -Look, I hate Lollypop. 4.2 and 4.4 were very good versions. I expected better from 5.0. I expected more of the same Android UI. I got some misguided experiment in casual blinding.

    For me, iOs is not an option. But instead of feeling like a big Android fan and supporter, I feel like I am getting shafted, And without root and access to the bootloader, I can't even DO anything about it. I am stuck with this thing rather than being a fan in love with it.

    Maybe the S6 will be decent and somehow manage to fix these things but nothing I've read mentions any GUI fixes. I'm not sure Google even wants to fix it. Afterall, they have had years to fix the contrast problem in Gmail -look at your inbox from more than few feet away and see if you can tell read and unread messages based on color. Pretty much cannot because new messages are in not very bold black over white and read messages are a slightly less black black over almost the same white. There is almost no contrast difference. You cannot tell at a glance what is going on. This problem is awful on desktop Gmail and only a little less awful on mobile mainly because you are obviously closer to the mobile screen.

    Google supposedly has GUI scientists and such but they don't see to put any thought into these things. It is frustrating. Yes I will keep using Google. They are wiring my neighborhood for Google Fiber so, yeah, I am on board. But I may not be using any Android devices by the time they get to my house this year.

    • by narcc ( 412956 )

      From what you're saying, you may want to take a look at Blackberry. Windows Phone isn't exactly big on contrast, but could be worth a look. FirefoxOS, naturally, would be a good fit thanks to Haida [mozilla.org], though if you're technically inclined you could always customize Gaia [mozilla.org] to suite your tastes.

  • I have a Nexus 7 v 2012 and mistakenly updated to the various Android 5.x.x versions. What a mistake as many earlier posters have noted. I end up with interminable boot ups that vary from time to time as to what's happening, the device is slower than a turtle walking through mud and some apps completely fail to work. The problem with the "downgrade" to 4.4.4 is that it's complicated and as I understand it removes any and all apps and data that might be on the device. If Google wants my respect they will com

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