UAE Police Claim BlackBerry Outage Made Roads Safer 206
An anonymous reader writes "Road traffic accidents in Abu Dhabi and Dubai plummeted last week — and the local police have a theory as to why: drivers' BlackBerrys weren't working. Police in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have claimed that last week's worldwide BlackBerry outage, which frustrated business people around the world who were unable to communicate with their colleagues, had one positive result — less texting and reading of emails by people who should have been concentrating on driving instead. There could be other factors at play, however. For instance, popular UAE soccer player Theyab Awana was killed in a high speed crash near Abu Dhabi in September, amid claims that he was sending a message on his BlackBerry when he hit a lorry. The football star's father, Awana Ahmad Al Mosabi, made an emotional plea to people not to use smartphones while driving, and a Facebook campaign against the use of BlackBerry Messenger while driving has grown in popularity."
"campaign against the use of ... while driving" (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, blame BlackBerries and their incredibly difficult to type on keyboards.
In all seriousness, though, why isn't it a campaign against texting while driving?
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Much like guns... Blackberries dont kill people, idiots who text while driving do.
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Re:"campaign against the use of ... while driving" (Score:4, Interesting)
You've never used a full-sized Blackberry (Bold, Tour), have you?
So, it was the fault of them not using full-sized keyboard BBs that was the problem? And you now feel safe texting while driving?
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qwerty kb needs two hands - AND a new user is likely to look at the kb while typing. those kb's are fast to start typing on though.
but if you're on the level of blind typing on a 9 pad, the chances are you could actually keep an eye on the road... if not, it's likely you're not even going to try.
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Music never did it for me... however, listening to talk radio that is discussing a topic you're interested in helped.
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Why stop there? There are other many things that have been proven to be distractions as well.
We should outlaw children riding in the car, talking to other passengers, and attractive members of the opposite sex sitting in the passenger seat.
In fact, it's been shown that there is a rise in accidents from male drivers during spring and summer months, which is believed to be due to the increase of females wearing more shorts or other more revealing clothing. We should ban female pedestrians too, to prevent ac
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Then we should outlaw scenic routes. You are driving to get somewhere, not for scenery. Scenery is just a distractions.
Reminds me of one offroad rally I was on, I crested a hill with a great view of the jungle valley below with clouds floating below me and the ocean in the distance. I'm sure it was an awesome sight but I barely had time to flick a glance at it since I was driving flat-out on a crappy narrow road with the cliff with the breathtaking view on the left and trees on the right. I really wanted to look but it wouldn't have been safe.
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What else am I missing?
Eva Herzigova
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Yes, blame BlackBerries and their incredibly difficult to type on keyboards.
In all seriousness, though, why isn't it a campaign against texting while driving?
Why bother, when natural evolution can solve this problem?
Re:"campaign against the use of ... while driving" (Score:4, Insightful)
Because as someone who also uses the roads I'd prefer not to be selected out of the gene pool by some cunt who has some desperate need to send texts and make calls whilst in the middle of dense, fast moving rush hour traffic. Not all rules are there to protect you from yourself...
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Yes, blame BlackBerries and their incredibly difficult to type on keyboards.
In all seriousness, though, why isn't it a campaign against texting while driving?
Why bother when natural evolution can solve this problem?
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Nerds and Geeks should be very careful about recommending Natural Selection.
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Well, for starters, as in this case, the unintended consquences of that suggestion would put you in danger. Then there's the matter of NS involving survival of brutality and mating. Not sure why I'm explaining this, really.
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P.S: Apparently God didn't either. You could ask Darwin, but I don't think he is available.
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This is why drinking improves road safety: when you're drunk it's much too hard to use those little buttons so at least you have your eyes on the road.
Hey I have the right to have an opinion!
Block texting services for devices on roads (Score:2)
If SMS, BBM, and FB blocked messaging when a phone was traveling on a road then lots of the problem could go away. Road GPS routes can be determined without much difficultly at the network level, and data like from the UAE shows that it will save lives.
Only audio interfaces should be permissible for drivers. I can safely use the phone with hands free voice dial and a headset while driving. I slow or pull over if it's business and I need to focus heavily on the discussion. Otherwise, I'm just sending not
Pay attention to the road! (Score:4, Interesting)
Having seen people swerving from lane to lane while talking or texting, there's no doubt in my mind cell usage while driving should be banned.
But I'm amazed that Abu Dhabi and Dubai have such a high penetration of Blackberries in their country that the outage could actually make a difference in road safety statistics. That's just amazing to me.
I wonder what would happen to the safety stats if all cell phones were disabled for a day as an experiment? (Not that it'll ever happen.)
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I will agree that trying to read, whether that is a phone, a book, or a newspaper is a bad idea. The phone rage is just a symptom of neo-ludditism though.
Here, it's called distracted driving. You're sharing a road with hundreds of other people all moving at high velocity in multi-ton vehicles. You need all your wits and attention to do that safely, for all involved. Check out the death while driving statistics if you don't believe me. It's far more dangerous than anything else we do.
You using a cell phone for anything while driving isn't anything we need. Just fscking pull over!
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There are MANY foreigners working there and 11% of mobile phone users where using blackberries to communicate - it was also a cheap and secure way to communicate back to family and friends in India.
Also remember that Dubai was where the whole fuss
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But I'm amazed that Abu Dhabi and Dubai have such a high penetration of Blackberries in their country that the outage could actually make a difference in road safety statistics. That's just amazing to me.
The few ME countries I've been to have virtually no signals or lane markers, insanly narrow roads and cars merging from more directions than can be counted on a single hand.
People beep their horns constantly in traffic not out of anger but to alert others of their presence so they don't get hit.
If the UAE is anything like this craziness it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is all true.
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But I'm amazed that Abu Dhabi and Dubai have such a high penetration of Blackberries in their country that the outage could actually make a difference in road safety statistics. That's just amazing to me.
What, you think they only have sand, camels and AK-47s? In terms of technology they're in the same ballpark as any first-world country.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHFk1TpWOIg [youtube.com]
Hell, I even saw a truck driver cooking pasta while driving on the highway.
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It's banned here, in fact it's a primary offense, meaning that police officers can pull you over for it without any other reason, but I still see plenty of people doing it. And worse, they'll not just talk on the phone, but they'll text. It's one thing to engage in behaviors that might remove the doer from the gene pool and quite another to risk other folks in the process.
Re:Pay attention to the road! (Score:4, Informative)
I once, swear to god, was passed on the highway by a guy playing a clarinet while driving. Freaked me out. And I'm a driver who is usually going faster than most folks, so he was hauling. There are some nutters out there. I'm sure he'll end up killing someone.
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"I once, swear to god, was passed on the highway by a guy playing a clarinet while driving."
Is that code?
Playing violin on interstate (Score:3, Insightful)
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This is the correct way to play instruments while on the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zxxM9EYQzY [youtube.com]
Safety first!
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This is the correct way to play instruments while on the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zxxM9EYQzY [youtube.com]
Safety first!
At least the musicians had a driver who didn't seem to be doing anything but driving. The person doing the filming was either sitting in the lap of the car driver, or was in fact the car driver.
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I often eat breakfast on my way to work. A granola bar or an apple while driving on lightly populated city streets isn't a difficult task.
Once I was standing at a bus stop and saw a guy come to the intersection eating breakfast while driving. It was bowl of cereal, with milk, and eaten with a spoon while the hand holding the bowl holds the wheel.
I tried flagging him down to ask him "What the hell are you doing?", but he just sped off when the light turned green, oblivious as to why I might have a problem w
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It happened ...
Please, learn to quote. I had to page up five times just to find out what you were referring to. <quote>blah blah blah</quote>
Thanks. Much appreciated.
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Banned, but not enforced. The main goal was revenue, not safety.
The purpose of traffic laws in the developed world is essentially as an extra tax. Therefore no road laws will ever be sufficiently enforced to significantly discourage the activity they purport to prohibit.
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The purpose of traffic laws in the developed world is essentially as an extra tax. Therefore no road laws will ever be sufficiently enforced to significantly discourage the activity they purport to prohibit.
This is clearly rubbish. In the Canada and most of Europe (both of which most definitely count as developed) have a system of penalty points or demerit points. Accrue too many points and you lose your license. You also get a fine. It could be argued that if you do get a fine then you're paying for them to prosecute you because you're so much of an incompetent fool as to not be able to control your vehicle responsibly.
I suggest you learn the meaning of the phrase "developed world". If your country doesn't ha
Banninate it. (Score:4, Insightful)
Most people accept that texting and cellphones cause accidents. But, most people also think they're better drivers than everyone else, and therefore it's okay for them to do it. Even cops do it. I see them all the time.
The only solution is making it illegal internationally. But considering the U.S. alone only bans it in a handful of states, we have a long way to go of convincing people that their ego doesn't make it okay.
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But, more to the point, it's a slippery slope issue. Eating in your car is also distracting. Do you solve it by banning drive-throughs? Reading in your car is a distraction. Do cops issue tickets if they see an atlas or a copy of the local newspaper on the seat when they pull you over? How about if you jotted down directions to where
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Why shouldn't distracted driving be an offense? You talk about specific rules (like banning food) but just like fraud, you can make the generalized cases illegal and not have to think of every form of it.
Look, I'm tired of speeding being the most enforced rule on the road. From what I experienced, speeders are focused on their driving, and less likely to put others around them to sleep. Yet, I never seen cops pull over people for failure to use turn signals or any other offense.
It's time to clamp down th
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But, more to the point, it's a slippery slope issue. Eating in your car is also distracting. Do you solve it by banning drive-throughs? Reading in your car is a distraction. [blah blah blah]
It really isn't a slippery slope though.
Your asinine argument seems to ignore the reality that we haven't already banned those things since Henry Ford brought cheap cars to the masses 97 years ago.
And yet here we are, with safety experts and organizations consistently endorsing legislation that singles out cell phones.
You, like most statists, are proposing a one-size-fits-all solution to a problem that doesn't have one.
Oh please. 99% of us are statists.
The only difference is how and where we think think the state should be acting.
P.S. Banning *anything* while driving is not the same thing as a general prohib
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being distracted while driving is actually illegal in most countries.
doesn't matter what the reason is.
but adding specific distraction laws is supposed to underline some distractions.. but actually it's hurting the general concept, because people will then label everything else as ok.
Re:Banninate it. (Score:5, Insightful)
To add to the last post:
A lot less than many people think. Most overestimate their abilities:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95256794 [npr.org]
Which is a very American trait, I noticed:
http://desicritics.org/2006/10/20/012720.php [desicritics.org]
Kind of like how those people who "work" 12 hours a day, brag about it, and lag behind people who work an honest 8 hours a day in productive because they spend most of the time at the watercooler or on the internet. Seriously, when you're driving, please drive - stop overestimating your abilities when they really get reduced by not paying attention. If you don't want to do that, either carpool with someone who doesn't have that problem and is willing to drive, or use mass transit.
But stfu because you can't stop diddling with your smartphone for 30 seconds and want to bullshit the rest of us that you're just as good with it as without it.
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That aside, its very good that you recognize this limitation you have. Its wonderful that you make app
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He needs full consentration, or he's just average.
It's doubly scary when I think of him driving his tangable car while talking on his phone.
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Kind of like how those people who "work" 12 hours a day, brag about it, and lag behind people who work an honest 8 hours a day in productive because they spend most of the time at the watercooler or on the internet. Seriously, when you're driving, please drive - stop overestimating your abilities when they really get reduced by not paying attention. If you don't want to do that, either carpool with someone who doesn't have that problem and is willing to drive, or use mass transit.
But stfu because you can't stop diddling with your smartphone for 30 seconds and want to bullshit the rest of us that you're just as good with it as without it.
You know, we can be more objective about this. The parent was talking about talking on a phone while driving with and without a headset. Simply having a conversation while driving can lower your response times, and having one free hand during that puts you at a stupidly high risk for what you're accomplishing. Still, you can mitigate some of the risk by choosing carefully when and when not to have a conversation in the car. Some people even turn the radio down when driving gets tense. I might accept a
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Some people can multitask to the point where they can talk on the phone and drive.
But I bet you're not one of them. Not and drive safely. (Drive like a drunken homicidal maniac, that I'd accept.)
Driving safely requires attention. Really. For everyone, everywhere, because it's always possible for something random to happen that's not your fault. Doesn't matter. Pay attention and you'll (usually) have enough time to deal with it. Distracted, and you lose that opportunity.
If you're not giving it your full attention as a driver, you're not safe for yourself, for your passengers (if you've go
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Driving safely requires attention. Really. For everyone, everywhere, because it's always possible for something random to happen that's not your fault. Doesn't matter. Pay attention and you'll (usually) have enough time to deal with it. Distracted, and you lose that opportunity.
Absolutely! On a typical stretch of road, I'm quite able to drive & drink/eat/fiddle with the radio. However, I could be just one corner away from a heavy traffic or even a wreck that requires 100% of my focus to avoid. Driving is my #1 priority. If I need to use the phone, I can pull over.
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Forget banning talking while driving. Where is my g'dang self-driving car, already...
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As far as driving an using a cellphone, most countries already make the concession that using a handsfree is okay, even though most studies show it to be just as dangerous as holding the phone. Having an active conversation is the distracting part.
Right, good point. We shouldn't ban cellphones, we should ban conversations. If the police see you talking to your passenger, or yelling at your kids in the back, why, they should pull you right over. Probably best if they beat you, too. Just to ensure you get the message.
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It's illegal in many districts, but the law is ignored by many. Their personal convenience is more important.
One of the most shameless examples is the mayor of Toronto, who has been repeatedly been caught by the citizens of Toronto yapping on his cell phone while driving. You'd think he would lead by example and avoid the bad publicity, but he's too narcissistic to learn his lesson.
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I have never understood why anyone with money would WANT to hold their cellphone while they're driving. I installed a car stereo with bluetooth cellphone integration in my car for under $200 and I've got a little microphone sprouting out of my dash. (For another $30 or so I could get something that would blend with the interior, but eh.) My phone goes in the center console and I run it from the stereo. If you have zero dollars for stuff like that I understand why you'd hold your phone, but seriously.
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You think the _US_ should be the one to be convincing _others_ of this? In the UK it's already illegal, it's the _US_ that needs to learn this from other countries.
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Cellphone driving bans of one type or another are present in most developed countries. http://www.cellular-news.com/car_bans/ [cellular-news.com].
You are right, although researchers in the USA were amongst the first to document the danger of cellphone usage whilst driving, the USA is a relative late-comer in banning its occurrence, no doubt due to the usual "my voters don't care what science says" attitude of US politicians.
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I am a highly skilled driver and I tried texting and driving once.
It was the most dangerous and stupid thing I ever did in a vehicle. I'll never do it again. Dialing a number and driving is quite nearly as bad. I suspect car stereos are pretty bad too but I never use them.
I can do a lot of things with cars that would make most of you shit yourselves, often while talking with a navigator, but I can't text and drive. So any average driver who confidently proclaims that they can do it is an absolute moron. A t
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And most people are oblivious that they're making themselves plainly obvious to what they're doing.
Anytime you see a car that's not keeping up with traffic, hell, doing 20 under the limit on a clear day with dry roads, or suddenly braking at a green light... you know the guy's on the phone.
Hell, in a mob moving the same direction, th
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If showing a little self restraint was a viable solution to problems, then thousands of people wouldn't die every year from distracted or impaired drivers.
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While I understand the point you're trying to make, since they're required to take driving courses and all, the fact remains that I know of at least two incidents of cops running into civilians in recent months, when not on calls, because they were talking on their cell phone. One of these incidents happened on the corner near my house just three days ago, and the woman in the car had to be taken to the hospital.
I think this is pretty conclusive evidence that even a trained driver is severely impaired when
Easily settled... (Score:2)
Theyab Awana (Score:2)
Yes, very likely.
A famous football player there was killed in a car accident.
His father made a plea [thenational.ae] for people not to use smart phones or Blackberry devices while driving.
celebrity example (Score:2)
If it takes a celebrity example of the problem to get peoples' attention, so be it - whatever works, and focus on celebrities is channeled into something positive for once. (In this case, it's the circumstances surrounding the soccer player's death)
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Blackberry is evil! (Score:3)
Yes, I believe it (Score:3)
Yes, the drivers here (in Abu Dhabi) really are that bad. Blackberry's are not illegal here as other posts have said; they have huge billboards advertising the latest ones all over the place (Blackberry's were banned at one point, but RIM have let the UAE government to see the traffic, as has happened in many countries recently). The cars are also heavily tinted because of the sun, so it's almost impossible to tell what people are doing in their cars.
You also have a good mix of Indian, Pakistani, Arab, European and African drivers who all have different ideas about driving. It is not unusual for the middle lane on a 5 lane road to turn left in front of everyone else going straight.
But the most common accident is being rear-ended by drivers using their phones and not looking at the road. And I can say that over the last week I have seen less accidents, so the numbers actually sound right.
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Having very recently spent some time in the UAE again it amazes me that people are able to survive at all. Where I come from a lane ending means that you put on your indicator and merge when traffic permits. In the UAE it seems to be a competition of slam your foot on the gas and see how far in front of all the other cars you can get without mounting the curb.
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"The cars are also heavily tinted because of the sun, so it's almost impossible to tell what people are doing in their cars."
No not because of the sun, because it's trendy and because of cultural factors. heavily tinting your car windows does NOTHING to control temperature inside, black adsorbs heat and after the 60% tints it's useless to tint further and will actually create more heat, they all ride around with 5% limo tint because it's trendy, and not seeing in the car keeps others from looking at you a
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I don't think you quite understand how tint works.
Give this a read: http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4597153_window-tint-work.html [ehow.com]
Basically blocks out a percentage of the visible spectrum as well as infrared and UV.
So yes, it would actually reduce the temperature the car would be w/o tint.
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The phone & text services were not affected (Score:2)
Unable to communicate? Despite the fact that the phone & text services were not affected?
If you text and drive.... (Score:2)
Stop it. Or spend some money and buy an android phone that will do Text to Speech and Voice to Text for you, Or buy a ford with Sync if you cant deal with your OCD and let an incoming text sit until you can check it safely. I am even O.K. with you talking on the phone and driving if you have a headset. I have a bluetooth helmet and it is very safe to carry on a conversation while driving with a headset.
As a motorcyclist, I have resorted to mounting TWO 180db air horns to my bike. On 3 occasions I hav
accidents? (Score:2)
Some people call it accidents, I call it natural selection. I'm sorry, but if you're dumb enough to text and email while driving then don't be surprised when you hit a pole.
The sad thing in all of this are the innocent people that get rammed into by these idiots.
I Ban Them on a Regular Basis (Score:2)
Blackberries and the like are the bane of productive activity. Every meeting takes 5x as long and is 1/5 as effective because the idiots are tapping away on their phones instead of paying attention and contributing to the discussion; you wind up repeating everything multiple times and it still doesn't sink in because their eyes are glazed while thinking about how their friend just tweeted "OMG that hot guy totally checked me out."
There are a couple instances when it is useful to whip out your phone, like w
Re:Don't Ban the whole US (Score:4, Insightful)
It's still dangerous even if you are in rural Nebraska, even if it isn't as dangerous as it is in the cities and there's ultimately no reason why one should be talking on the phone without at least a headset.
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The headset is nearly useless. Talking over the phone is more distracting than a car passenger, because passengers realize when to stfu because of situational cues, and you aren't pressured to keep the conversation going when the situation demands all your attention since a passenger realizes this, but a phone participant doesn't and keeps on going.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002374605_cellphones12.html [nwsource.com]
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The headset is nearly useless.
I'll see you one useless and raise you a dangerous.
With a normal phone other drivers have a decent chance to notice the person with their hand up to their ear and give them a wider berth. But with the various handsfree laws in many states there is basically no way to distinguish between a normal driver and one who has half their mind on the other end of a telephone conversation.
The only study to ever show a significant improvement in safety with a handsfree phone versus a handheld phone was commissioned by
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The only place I would disagree with cell phones being dangerous while driving is exactly that sort of place. When you have a hundred miles of practically straight country road ahead of you and nothing but grass plains on either side, it's pretty hard to swerve off the road, run into someone, or hit something bigger than a prairie dog.
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Compared to fully-attentive driving, using a cell phone while driving in Nebraska is no safer than anywhere else in the world. Text while driving, and you give X% less attention to the road. Being in central Nebraska just means you have less stuff you're likely to hit, so all driving is safer.
Think of it this way: If it's reasonably safe to drive in Nebraska while using a cell phone, imagine how safe it'd be if you didn't!
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And wear a condom while you drive, you'll be that much safer.
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And wear a condom while you drive, you'll be that much safer.
Darwin principle in action, ya gotta love it. Please use a telephone pole, not some innocent bystander to do it. Bye.
Re:Don't Ban the whole US (Score:4, Informative)
There have been studies, and more well known, mythbusters did an episode on something very similar (is talking on a cellphone while driving just as bad as drinking and driving), and while mythbusters is a bit hollywood science at times, they confirmed the myth. Texting isn't that far off. And in other studies, is just as bad.
But don't take my word for it, take a look [reuters.com] at [theatlantic.com] all [cnet.com] the [caranddriver.com] studies and materials [wikipedia.org].
There's a reason why texting/talking on the phone is rapidly becoming illegal while driving. But hey! Maybe in Nebraska, facts and truths aren't the norm!
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Texting isn't that far off. And in other studies, is just as bad.
Wouldn't it be even worse because when you are talking you are still looking at the road, while when texting you are looking at the phone?
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Uh, no. If their phones notify them when they receive a message, there is no need to constantly check even during an outage.
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What is so important that it can't wait til you arrive at your destination?
If it is important, just stop and then text/call. But the people who text while driving are probably part of the group who will overtake a car just to arrive at a red light (that they saw before overtaking) one second sooner.
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Agreed. Rare incidents like car crashes generally generate Poisson distributions. Without knowing how many accidents typically occur in a week, there's no way to know if a 40% change is statistically meaningful. The standard deviation is just the square root of the mean count. The value 40% is suggestive of a total count of 5 or 10, though of course any multiple of 5 would work. If it's a change from 5 to 3, it's not meaningful.