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Due Next Year: Dell's 19-inch Laptop 408

Posted by timothy from the hunchback-time dept.
WheelRunner writes "Engadget is running a story about Dell's new 19-inch laptop. Sadly, it's too late for the only lap that could hold it, Marlon Brando's." Maybe if Apple would put a keyboard-containing lid (and a briefcase-style handle) on the 20" iMac, a market for car-battery backpacks would emerge.
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  • f(x) = wit / 2 (Score:4, Funny)

    by American AC in Paris ( 230456 ) * on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:38PM (#12500814) Homepage
    If you must post fat jokes to the front page, could you at least make sure they're funny?

    • Re:f(x) = wit / 2 (Score:5, Funny)

      by bigman2003 ( 671309 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:41PM (#12500860) Homepage
      Hey- I thought it was funny.

      Marlon Brando was one of the young, tough, sexy heros of American cinema in the middle of this past century.

      The fact that he ballooned up like a huge, over-inflated (yet not too tight) beach ball gives hope to men all throughout America.

      It also depresses the hell out of the women.
    • Of make them about CowboyNeal. That would also be acceptable.
    • Well it might fit on Rush Limbaugh's lap...

      *runs*

  • Not a Laptop (Score:5, Funny)

    by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:39PM (#12500832) Homepage Journal
    It's not about being a laptop anymore, it's about having a portable workstation.

    Imagine some cretin in the cattle-class seats on a jet trying to open one of these things up.

    "Excuse me, mind if I take over some of your very limited personal space?"
    "No, mind if my baby pukes on you keyboard?"

    At some point I expect these things to come with telescoping legs so you could actually use it as a portable desk.

    • I believe that happened with the Dell XPS workstations.. Come on an almost 3 inch thick laptop...
      • err, sed s/workstation/laptop/g.
      • If you want a (relatively) thin and light gaming laptop (but definitely not cheap - a similarly specced XPS Gen 2 is MUCH cheaper), go for a Precision m70. Workstation-grade, too - so Dell's biggest mobile workstation is MUCH smaller than their gaming laptop (which is about as powerful).

    • Re:Not a Laptop (Score:2, Interesting)

      by conteXXt ( 249905 )
      hmmm. doesn't sound too bad.

      A tripod like device that folds up (is lightwieght) and fits in a DTR pc bag.

      I would get one if the price point $20 CAD

      (hint, aluminium tubing sounds about right)

      I've seen many sillier products on the TV at night.
    • "Excuse me, mind if I take over some of your very limited personal space?"

      "No, mind if my baby pukes on you keyboard?"

      It's especially fun to recline your seat when someone has one of those open behind you and is going on about how important he is.

      Crunch.

    • Imagine some cretin in the cattle-class seats on a jet trying to open one of these things up.

      Open one of those things up while seated? I'm still trying to visualize fitting that monster in the overhead.

    • Re:Not a Laptop (Score:5, Funny)

      by Ford Prefect ( 8777 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @02:02PM (#12501132) Homepage
      Imagine some cretin in the cattle-class seats on a jet trying to open one of these things up.

      If you ever do have to put up with such behaviour, just be thankful that the aforementioned cretin will most likely get somewhat comprehensively sterilised thanks to the testicle-toasting heat pumped out by the 'laptop'...
    • It's not about being a laptop anymore, it's about having a portable workstation.

      /me looks at screen...Looks at story...Looks at screen...Thats bigger than what I've got on my DESK RIGHT NOW. :)

    • Luggable (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Yankel ( 770174 )
      I'm gettin' the Kaypro and Osborne out of the basement. They're obviously worth something again!

      But seriously, we're really getting back to "portable computers" and "laptops" again, as opposed to "notebook computers."

      I guess the easiest way to shrink these things down again is to :

      1. swap the LCD for a projection device that displays onto your glasses.

      I imagine we're not quite there yet -- unless you want to look like "Lawnmower Man."

      2. Without that pesky monitor in the way, your nearly full-sized keyb

    • Re:Not a Laptop (Score:4, Interesting)

      by aclarke ( 307017 ) <spam.clarke@ca> on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @02:55PM (#12501771) Homepage
      Well, Sony's notebooks haven't been called "laptops" in a while. I'm happy to say that I'm a Powerbook user now, but maybe 4 years ago we got a 15" Sony Vaio. It got so hot it would burn my legs if I wore shorts, so I called Sony to get some warranty work done on my "laptop".

      The woman's response was "that's why we don't call them laptops, sir". Apparently everything was within spec. Go figure.

  • Engadget misses the point (Score:5, Insightful)

    by winkydink ( 650484 ) * <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:40PM (#12500833) Homepage Journal
    I don't think you'll see many road warriors adopting 19-inch laptops any time soon, but that's not the intended market.

    This laptop is designed for people who need casual portability, like taking the machine home with you at night or on a weekend.
    • it's also intended for huge people: my friend is a head taller than most people, and in his hands the massive Compaq x6000 looks like a mini-subnotebook.
      It's not just for fat people.
    • In that case, it's probably much cheaper to get a laptop with a 15" screen and buy a seperate 19" monitor. You've got a laptop thats actually portable, and the big screen for when you're ready to sit down and work for a while.

    • Given how massive a 19-inch laptop would have to be it's doubtful you'd ever see one of these backbreaking monsters outside the cubicle, especially if it comes packed in the usual sleep-inducing Dell plastic slab.


      They didn't put it in quite the same words you did, but I'm pretty sure they didn't miss the point that much.

      Blake
    • Yes; so long as they follow the conventional design, a 19" laptop is always going to be, in effect, a luggable.

      What is needed is (e.g.) flexible screen technology that allows you to fit a large screen in a smallish space, and to have it fold in the middle so it isn't any larger than (e.g.) my 14" Compaq laptop.

      This still begs the question of how it would unfold; and even if it could be unfolded, would it be usable on (e.g.) a train or an aeroplane?

      The other alternative is to have an inbuilt mini-proje
    • I agree. I recently bought an HP nx9600 for one of my engineers. He needed something that could run Solidworks and something he could take home on weekends and on the occasional trip to a customer site. He likes the screen so much he's done away with the 19" CRT that he used with his last laptop.

  • 19 inches? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by TripMaster Monkey ( 862126 ) * on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:40PM (#12500834)


    I only hope they make a carrying case large enough to haul this monster around in.

    A 19" laptop...a laptop computer that may violate the size requirements for aircraft carry-on luggage...not that's progress!

  • An integrator doing design..... (Score:4, Funny)

    by motorsabbath ( 243336 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:40PM (#12500844) Homepage
    Dell doesn't do design work, they do integration work. This pretty much proves it, though I'm sure the 5 or so that will be sold (all to CEOs and CIOs) will make excellent conversation pieces. :-)
    • Well, if it can successfully drive down the ridiculous cost of flat panels, then I'm all for it.
      The 'low yield' argument of yore to explain the high cost for flat panels always struck me as a WMD argument, even before I knew what a crock a WMD argument was...
    • I don't know why you think this won't sell. I love my 17" widescreen laptop. It's a bit heavier than i'd like, but otherwise it's fantastic. I'd love an even larger screen, and 19" would be no impediment to backpack/shoulderpack as long as the weight doesn't rise much.

  • Weight (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Stibidor ( 874526 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:41PM (#12500849) Homepage
    Oy. How much is that beast of a machine going to weigh? The article calls it a "backbreaking monster." No kidding!

  • is it... (Score:4, Funny)

    by WormholeFiend ( 674934 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:42PM (#12500868)
    made in India for 200$ or less?

    or is it just tech-supported there?
    • or is it just tech-supported there?

      Given the muscle mass of the average geek, I'd say you'd need three or four techs to support this laptop. ;)

  • Great Jokes (Score:3, Informative)

    by Rick and Roll ( 672077 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:42PM (#12500870)
    ...and well deserved by this silliness.

    I am sure that they will sell a few, however. One classmate lugs an 8lb PC laptop with 30min of battery life to class every day and plugs it into his wall outlet. He always sets his laptop on his desk, never on his lap. I'm sure he could do the same with this one.

    I guess the age of the luggables has returned...

  • Remember kids! (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    When Apple does it, it ROXORS! When DELL does it, it sucks.

  • Uses Intel's New Chipset (Score:5, Funny)

    by WombatControl ( 74685 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:43PM (#12500886)

    The massive laptop is actually part of a new chipset design by Intel - with the success of the small and light Centrino design, Intel wants to persue the larger laptop market as well. The new chipset, the Overcompenson is expected to do well among groups that purchase expensive sports cars, Hummer H2s, and respond positively to Enzyte commercials.

  • It just all sounds... a little silly. (Score:3, Funny)

    by baryon351 ( 626717 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:45PM (#12500911)
    Here is a friend's prediction of 2007's Powerbook 30" [danaquarium.com]

  • Too big (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Leroy_Brown242 ( 683141 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:45PM (#12500922) Homepage Journal
    TGIK got rid of his 17" powerbook after a few months. It was too damned big. It was no longer a convieniently portible device. it was a mobile workstation.

    I think it's awesome that tech has come to the point of making machines like this. But how long is it before more people that don't need/want/know how to upgrade their machiens have these instead of real desktops at thier desk, in mass numbers? Think how much easier in a corporate environment it would be to move someone from one cubical to another, if all they had was a 'laptop' and personal effects!



    • Re:Too big (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Malc ( 1751 )
      It'll be upgradable in the common ways that most "real" deskstops are. In a corporate environment, the most common upgrades are memory and diskspace.

      I have a Dell M60 laptop, which I use as instead of a desktop. I work from home for an office the other side of the country. Therefore this thing spends most of its life docked, but I can take it with me if I want to work somewhere else, or I can take it to the office on my occasional visits. I don't need ultra portability and this new machine would certai

  • pretty big (Score:3, Interesting)

    by moz25 ( 262020 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:46PM (#12500924) Homepage
    I have a 15.4" widescreen (dell) laptop. That's more or less the ideal size if you're going to carry it around all day. I found the 17" version too big to use. The nice thing about their screens, though, is that they offer high resolution screens (like 1680x1050), while many other manufacturers are stuck in the 1024x768 range.

    • Re:pretty big (Score:2, Interesting)

      by theendlessnow ( 516149 )
      I too own a 15.4" widescreen laptop from Dell... but it has 1920x1200 resolution. Very nice and yet still mostly portable.

      The 17" versions are huge.. 19" !! ridiculous.

      Soon laptop bags will become laptop carts if things continue this direction.

      Maybe the next generation 52" "laptops" will come with self propelled cases.

  • I thought the idea of a "laptop" or "notebook PC" was so that it was portable.

    Isn't this sort of thing the reason docking stations were invented? portability for on-the-go and a way to simulate a regular desktop when you are in the office?? I mean, reallly!!

    -PONA-
    • The arguement is that its occasional portabilty. Move it from your desk to the occasional meeting down the hall etc.

      Personally I think people who buy these things almost never move them off their desk. Its mostly just a space issue and looking cool.

      I had an Alienware gaming laptop, great piece of hardware but I never took it anyway except the occasional Lan party, because it weighed almost 9 lbs and sounded like a jet engiine. After about a year I finally gave into common sense and sold it on Ebay for abo

  • Heavy now was light way back when (Score:5, Interesting)

    by WillAdams ( 45638 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:47PM (#12500946) Homepage
    When I bought my first laptop, a GRiDCase III Plus, it was ten and a half pounds, and was a featherweight compared to the ~30lb. luggables then available (Compaq, Otrona, &c.)

    Apple even had a carrying case for the 128K Mac when it first came out, which tradition is carried on in:

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LTA%20Projects/ILUG GERBLK/ [macsales.com]

    And there's even one for the Mac Mini:

    http://www.tombihn.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Scre en=PROD&Product_Code=TB0351 [tombihn.com]

    The thing I'm faintly surprised / disappointed at is that no one has mad a combination carrying case and battery pack for a Mac Mini _and_ Wacom Cintiq (LCD integrated w/ a graphics tablet) which would get one a Tablet Mac w/o waiting for Apple to build one.

    William
    • When I bought my first laptop, a GRiDCase III Plus, it was ten and a half pounds, and was a featherweight compared to the ~30lb. luggables then available (Compaq, Otrona, &c.)

      I used to have to lug, in addition to my standard 70 pound pack, either a Pjunjar (portable drill for emplacing explosives in rock faces) or a GRiD mil computer, plus a 15 pound FN C2 with a 15 pound ammo chest pack for the 7.62 mm rounds.

      Up mountains. In winter and in freezing rain. For weeks and months. Silently. Sometime
    • Wacom Cintiq (LCD integrated w/ a graphics tablet)

      I can't believe they manage to continue selling these things now that tablet PCs cost less than half as much and actually include, you know, a computer...
      • The Cintiqs have the same digitizer technology as Intuos tablets --- Tablet PC systems use Wacom UD technology I think it is, so no tilt, rotation &c. They're also available in larger sizes than Tablet PCs, w/ higher resolution and have a wider viewing angle than most Tablets.

        Also, when one replaces a Tablet PC to update the processor, one has to get an all new unit --- a Cintiq can be left on one's desk, and the CPU replaced.

        There was a very interesting overview and cost-benefit analysis contrasting

  • Portable? (Score:5, Funny)

    by raider_red ( 156642 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:48PM (#12500962) Journal
    I think Dell's going by the military's definition of "portable" which is any piece of equipment that can be moved by two soldiers. It's also sometimes used to refer to any piece of equipment that can be moved by a HMMT. You know, like a portable PATRIOT launcher.

  • Ah yes (Score:3, Informative)

    by RealProgrammer ( 723725 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:49PM (#12500963) Homepage Journal
    ... the luggable [obsoleteco...museum.org] is back.

  • Laptops? Bah! (Score:5, Funny)

    by GillBates0 ( 664202 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:49PM (#12500967) Journal
    You young 'uns and your fancy schmancy "laptops". Us real men work good, old-fashioned desktops off our laps.

    Nothing builds character like a heavy duty Sun workstation carefully balanced on one's lap. To say nothing of more resilient balls.

  • Seriously. What use is there for a monster like that? If you want something like that, just get a desktop.

    I, for one, am happy with my thin and light Centrino notebook. It's weighs 4.9 pounds, is 12 inches wide, 10 inches deep, and 1 inch tall, with a 14.1" XGA screen. It's incredibly portable...I carry it with me most places I go, it fits nicely on my lap, I can hand it off to someone to show them something on the screen. I can't do any of those with a DTR brick.

    I was somewhat skittish about buying a mac
  • Seriously, I used to carry around a big-arse artist's portfolio case with a three-foot wide drafting board and giant pads to do design sketches back in high school and the total weight was close to thirty pounds with everything in the case.

    Someone makes a three-foot wide laptop with screen to match, I am soooo there. Full size keyboard, graphics tablet, and folding joystick right in front of me, big-arse 32" or so screen in front of me, maybe even fold-out flat speakers. How is this too big? I'm sick of
  • The new Dell Hernia laptop!

    Chip H.

  • The problem with miniturazation... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TripMaster Monkey ( 862126 ) * on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:53PM (#12501007)

    This recent development underscores the main problem with miniturazation...that while we can continue to make things smaller and smaller, their interfaces (input - keyboard/mouse, output - screen/speakers) must remain large enough to be useful, and the larger, the better. Even if you totally discount other problems like removable data storage, the main problem of user interfaces will continue to stand in the way of true miniaturization.

    I'm wondering why we haven't seen a laptop marketed with a roll-up keyboard, fingertip mouse, and VR glasses? Freed of these constraints, the actual laptop could easily be made small enough to be wearable.

    • You've been reading Snow Crash again recently, haven't you? =]

      I'd want one of the computers, but more for the enhanced vision capabilites. heh

      • No, actually, I made the above post in all seriousness (although Snow Crash did rock SO hard, it gave me cancer, and then spontaneously cured me of said cancer, just to prove its awesomeness). ;)

        Seriously, when are we going to see decent, reasonably priced VR glasses/goggles? I'd pick up a set in a second, if they were available. Anyone out there with any info on this subject?

    • while we can continue to make things smaller and smaller, their interfaces (input - keyboard/mouse, output - screen/speakers) must remain large enough to be useful

      That's why I grabbed me a superslim Toshiba three years ago. 12.1" screen thin as sliced cheese. You get them more powerful but no slimmer or lighter today :)

      Kjella
  • I think the ideal size for a laptop is the 15" Powerbook (or the 12" iBook/Powerbook if you want extra portability).

    The 17" one is just too big for daily use, and is more suited as a mobile desktop as people have mentioned.

    This 19" thing is going to be huge. It's just a desktop with a handle.

    There's no doubt it will be a pile of plasticy crap too - I've yet to see a PC laptop that doesn't look cheap and tacky. Even the fancy Sny Vaios (which also carry the hefty price premium) look cheap.
    • There's no doubt it will be a pile of plasticy crap too - I've yet to see a PC laptop that doesn't look cheap and tacky. Even the fancy Sny Vaios (which also carry the hefty price premium) look cheap.
      Ever seen an IBM Thinkpad? Their build quality is better than a Powerbook's.
      • I guess you have not seen a powerbook because your statement is just false.
        • Right in front of me, I have a ten-month-old 15" Aluminum Powerbook and a six-month-old Thinkpad T42p. I use both of them every day.

          I would be in heaven if I could run Mac OS X on the Thinkpad. The Powerbook may look pretty, but the Thinkpad is better-engineered and better-built.

  • What's wrong with it? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Txiasaeia ( 581598 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:56PM (#12501056)
    I think that this is the greatest notebook to ever hit the market. Not only would you be able to get crystal-clear viewing of any movie you'd care to watch on the road, but your eyes wouldn't be damaged and you would get quite the workout! I, for one, am all for it.

    Sincerely, the American Association of Chiropractors.

  • Dell ain't dumb. Wake up. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by the_mutha ( 177709 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @01:58PM (#12501069)
    Its obvious these laptops would be intended as desktop replacements.

    Think about it, in the PC world of today people:
    • don't have much space
    • want a computer they can move arround not just in their homes
    • want a computer that doesn't have 1000 cables connected to it
    • want an elegant and compact design (none of those plastic mod cases with ugly neon all over)
    • want a large screen

    A laptop with a 19" would fit perfectly here. Remember, Dell isn't where it is because its dumb. It does its research, and if its coming up with a 19" laptop, its because there is a market for it. Don't be fooled, airplane junkies won't be using this kind of laptop, they'll want something ultra compact with a long battery life.
    • If all you want is a laptop with a big screen to carry between work and home (and with a screen this big, you're gonna need to plug it in), why not just get a much smaller laptop with 2 separate 19" LCD displays for work and home? Docking and undocking laptops really isn't that much work...
  • I hope they make a carrying case better then what Toshiba has. I bought the Nylon extra large carrying backpack for my Toshiba s901 (and now for my dell 9100) each of which as a large honkin monitor. The straps are broken. THese things are heavy, and I am lucky if i get an hour to an hour and a half of battary life (running low demanding apps). But its well worth it when I can go to my friends and play all of my fav computer games (i.e. CS). It is also well worth it when I can do Flash designing on it

  • It's called "exercise" (Score:4, Funny)

    by DogDude ( 805747 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @02:00PM (#12501096)
    Everybody is screaming about 19" being "too big". Am I the only member of Slashdot who can lift something heavier than a book? I mean, Jezus people... if you're too wimpy to carry around a tiny little thing like this, get yourself to a gym (or a doctor) immediately. I, for one, would *love* to get a few of these things if I could justify the $$.
    • Uh, it's about portability, which encompasses more than just raw weight. Try opening that monster on a plane, even in business class (don't even bother in coach). Try picking it up and out of your bag for a quick note jot when you have a few minutes between meetings while you're waiting for a coworker in a lobby. Try placing it on a tiny round coffee shop table or lunch bar. Try pulling this thing out when you're running statistics in the lower hull of a huge tanker and your only "desk" is a steam pipe.
  • At what point does putting a larger LCD in a portable stop making sense and just putting a projector (e.g. DLP) in the portable start making sense? Seriously, if you want a large display, just carry around a roll-up movie screen! Plus in airplanes you could just project onto the seatback in front of you...

    Much smaller, lighter notebook. Ok, power consumption of projector would suck.

  • "Maybe if Apple would put a keyboard-containing lid (and a briefcase-style handle) on the 20" iMac, a market for car-battery backpacks would emerge."

    Can't post a story about Dell without mentioning Apple?
  • Hear me out on this. I doubt they will do this since Dell it's a little too creative for Dell's business model, but imagine if this were marketed as a tablet pc aimed at artists/engineers. With a stylus and high rez touch sensitive screen you now have a decent sized portable system which I would think would be very useful for graphic artists. It's large enough to work comfortably on but also reasonably portable (if a bit heavy). It should be possible to cram a LOT of batteries into it to keep the batter
  • From the Digitimes article linked to by engaget:

    Compal Electronics recently received an order for a Dell 14.1-inch widescreen notebook for 2006, which will have shipments of about 300,000 units per month, the sources said. Compal also received an order for Dell's first-ever 19-inch widescreen model, which will be launched in 2006, the sources added.

    ...and that looks like it was taken from some sort of report or press release. And you are, hearing it fourth-hand. Looks to me like a typo, and that they pr

  • Why, exactly, do we need a rack-mountable laptop?
  • Is this what Slashdot has come to? One news regurgitator site posting headlines that point to another news regurgitator site?

  • Stop complaining about the size (Score:5, Insightful)

    by howlinmonkey ( 548055 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @02:38PM (#12501537)

    For the sake of all that is held dear by geekdom, please stop complaining about how large it is. If it is too large for you, don't use it. For many people the size is just right. It slides right into place, and gets the job done better than a smaller one would. For some people, bigger is better.

    If you can't accomodate the size, don't buy it. If it looks like handling it would be uncomfortable, don't try to force it to fit. You won't be happy with the results.

    Some of us NEED something bigger to satisfy our needs. Those small 15 inchers just don't pass muster. Of course, it may not be appropriate to haul around out in public, but we don't care. It may not fit on the plane, so what. Somebody talked about not being able to use something this large in the hull of a tanker. That isn't the first place that comes to mind when I think of this gorgeous 19 inches of bliss. I think the office or home is more appropriate. I need 19" to meet my needs, so I would buy one. ;-)

    Seriously, though, this is not meant as a traditional portable laptop. It is meant to take advantage of the burgeoning laptop market, by taking the relative advantages of a laptop on to the desktop. Think of people living in smaller homes, or people who move, by car, between a couple of locations, but need the screen real estate. I believe there is a market for this, and I will buy one, if the $$$$ is right.

  • Choice is good (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Jarlsberg ( 643324 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @02:42PM (#12501597) Journal
    At the time of writing this, there are about 150 comments to this article, and most of them are composed of people who complains about the big size, the lack of portability, the weight etc... But hey, some people want a laptop with a big monitor, and this fits the ticket. Other people want a feather weight laptop with a 12" screen, and there are laptops for those guys too. Why complain about the size of the new Dell when there is ample choice in the market place?

  • Brando (Score:5, Funny)

    by Junior J. Junior III ( 192702 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @02:51PM (#12501718) Homepage
    That's not true. Orson Welles could also have supported Dell's 19incher.

    I want a 19 inch in my laptop, running Debian Woody.

  • Made for Urban Homes (Score:4, Insightful)

    by tabdelgawad ( 590061 ) on Wednesday May 11, 2005 @03:21PM (#12502051)
    I think there's a big market for these 'desktop replacement' machines in cities where the majority of people live in small apartments. Don't underestimate the clutter of connections, cables, powerstrips, and peripherals necessary for a desktop pc.

    Also, you may not want to tote a 19 inch laptop on a plane, but you might drag it around the apartment or to the neighborhood starbucks.

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