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Huawei's HarmonyOS is Coming To Smartphones (theverge.com) 35

Huawei has announced the second version of its HarmonyOS operating system and detailed plans to bring it to a wider range of devices, including smartphones. Consumer business CEO Richard Yu made the announcement today at Huawei's developer conference in Shenzhen, China. From a report: Huawei will make a beta version of the HarmonyOS 2.0 SDK available to developers today, though it'll initially only support smartwatches, car head units, and TVs. A smartphone version of the SDK will follow in December 2020, and Yu hinted that phones running HarmonyOS might appear next year. Huawei is also kicking off its OpenHarmony project, which allows developers to build upon an open-source version of the OS -- similar to what AOSP is to Android. As of today the project only supports devices with 128MB of RAM or below, but that'll expand to 4GB in April of next year, and the memory limit will be removed completely by October 2021.
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  • Does the API include the calls to forward user data through the backdoor or are those at a private, hidden level?
    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      That is part of the device firmware.
    • by Celt ( 125318 )

      Data is already harvested by the mobile networks due to US interfearence, no issue with that? :)

      • Is that supposed to make what Huwei does OK?

        "Both Sides" is an idiotic deflection.

        • by znrt ( 2424692 )

          the whole thing is about sides.

          china is a totalitarian state that spies on citizens, us is a presumed democratic state that spies on citizens.

          the other difference is that china overtook the us in terms of telcom technology a while ago so the us made a big deal about china spying on citizens to throw all sorts of sanctions and embargoes on them, also banning them from using google software. that was smart, in less than a year china will have rolled out their own google/os and will be in an even better positi

        • No it doesn't. But it does mean there is a problem with us taking a moral stand against it.

          Say they are two countries killing each other. If you are part of one of these countries and you say the other side is bad for killing your side. While you too are responsible for the same level of evil on their side. Trying to make the other side stop, while you continue your own is both ineffective and doesn't look good to the outside world.

          If in the same scenario decides to take the first step by stopping your

        • Iâ(TM)m sure there are good people on both sides.
          â"Trump

      • US interfearence

        So the US randomly screws up words in people's comments? That would explain 95% of forums posts these daisies.

    • Re:API (Score:4, Informative)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:06AM (#60492094) Homepage Journal

      It's a microkernel based OS, a but like QNX but supposedly more efficient. On top of that you can run Android apps, for example, as well as native stuff.

      It's open source too so backdoors are unlikely, at least outside of binary distributions. In that respect it's on a par with AOSP based distros and way ahead of iOS. Presumably you bought a PinePhone anyway.

    • You can always plug it into hardware, replace any radio chips and monitor what data is being sent over to it.
      Almost any amature electronics guy can take apart a device and show you where something is a radio transmitter. Take it our, and plug it into a meeter to see what is going on.
      Even if the data is encrypted, you can tell if there is unexpected communication going on.

    • Neither, it's via an app that the users aren't able to delete under penalty of law.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    So they made a bad android clone?

  • You too can be at one with love and unicorns and the spy agencies and police and military arms of the Chinese Communist party. Yes, a mono-racial superstate with nuclear weapons and a hunger for more land and resources and global power wants to invite you to have an electronic device in your pocket that will hear everything you say or hear, and see images of everything you think is interesting or important, and auto-geotag all that stuff as its collected for later easier analysis - but don't worry, you won'

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday September 10, 2020 @02:24PM (#60493046)

    Google, a US company, had the a monopoly on cellphone OSes. Now you forced a Chinese company to make a competing product.

    Sure it's kind of crap and not really there yet. But Android too used to be kind of crap. Look where it is now.

    If Trump hadn't been a little bitch with his pointless private war against China, that particular potential competition wouldn't have happened.

    • China has been attempting to build their own OS for a long time. It never gets far because those in power make more money using what is free from the west than paying money to make their own. The next President will end the trade war and let buisiness men go back to making money.
      • by khchung ( 462899 )

        China has been attempting to build their own OS for a long time. It never gets far because those in power make more money using what is free from the west than paying money to make their own. The next President will end the trade war and let buisiness men go back to making money.

        You cannot put the genie back into the bottle.

        What Trump did wasn't just banning a Chinese company from using Android. What Trump did was showing the world the US *can and will* do such a thing simply because a company took the lead in technology.

        Trust, once broken, cannot be so easily repaired simply by the next president saying "we won't do that again". And you bet that no US president is going to say that, because the US *will* do anything when their lead in the world is threatened.

        Every company in the

  • Who did Huawei steal the source from?

    • We're ok with Huawei doing whatever they want with the Linux source, provided they respect the copyright license.

  • Linux again. I don't even need to look at the specs. Of course it's Linux.

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