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Leaked Manual Reveals Details On Google's Nexus 5 177

Features of Google's next Nexus phone have finally been outed, along with confirmation that the phone will be built by LG, as a result of a leaked service manual draft; here are some of the details as described at TechCrunch: "The new Nexus will likely be available in 16 or 32GB variants, and will feature an LTE radio and an 8-megapixel rear camera with optical image stabilization (there’s no mention of that crazy Nikon tech, though). NFC, wireless charging, and that lovely little notification light are back, too, but don’t expect a huge boost in longevity — it’s going to pack a sealed 2,300mAh battery, up slightly from the 2100mAh cell that powered last year’s Nexus 4. That spec sheet should sound familiar to people who took notice of what happened with the Nexus 4. Just as that device was built from the foundation laid by the LG Optimus G, the Nexus 5 (or whatever it’s going to be called) seems like a mildly revamped version of LG’s G2."
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Leaked Manual Reveals Details On Google's Nexus 5

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  • by AuMatar ( 183847 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:08AM (#45056215)

    Every Nexus device going back the very first has been an existing phone with a few minor upgrades at most and a different set of software installed. Why would anyone expect different this time? My only surprise is that Google hasn't started having their Motorola arm manufacture them yet. Probably due to not wanting to push OEMs to other options.

  • Crazy tech? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Adrian Harvey ( 6578 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:12AM (#45056225)

    I haven't been following closely enough to know what the "crazy Nikon tech" is - anyone care to enlighten me? Google doesn't give relevant info...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:30AM (#45056281)

    I think Google is very smart to use other OEMs, as it gives them more scale to compete, keeping the Android market healthier. Motorola and Samsung (in 2013) don't need it, but LG can certainly do with more scale.

  • Re:Crazy tech? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by AuMatar ( 183847 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @03:11AM (#45056415)

    Except that 95% of the market isn't serious about taking photographs. That's why photography studios across the country died- ubiquitous smart phone cameras were good enough. Same for professional photographers- most of them have found new careers, because except for weddings there's no demand anymore.

    Digital camera sales have plateaued and are now decreasing (by 18% year over year worldwide, 43% in north america). Nobody carries a camera around anymore, phones take a good enough picture (probably just as good given the skills of the people using them) and are more convenient to carry- heck you're carrying them anyway. At parties where before a couple people might bring their cameras, now nobody does- they pull out their phone.

    So yeah, a better smart phone camera would address a large market- everyone who enjoys taking photos, but doesn't do art photos. I know a good number of people who tossed their digital cameras away but take the camera into consideration when buying a phone.

  • by jrumney ( 197329 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @05:52AM (#45056867)

    I don't care if its fancy, I just want an up to date android version and the basic hardware features.

    Sadly, it looks like mostly we are moving to larger phones with more bloated software that requires fancy CPUs and lots of batteries

    No sadly, it looks like mostly we are moving to a world full of people who want things while simultaneously not wanting them. The price you pay for an up to date Android version rather than the crawling JavaME engine in your dumb phone of 6 years ago, is a fancy CPU and the battery to power it. Put these phones side by side and tell me again that the difference in battery drain is caused by software efficiency not improving. Oh, and try to actually use your JavaME engine while you're at it, and see how it is on the battery. A major part of the reason why the batteries on your 6 year old dumb phone lasted so long is that it spent the majority of its life sitting in your pocket on cell-standby, because lets face it, it wasn't much use for anything else was it?

  • by gbjbaanb ( 229885 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @05:54AM (#45056881)

    more than that, if I want to transfer a few gig of music or movies to my phone, its much easier to slip the sd card out and put it in a reader on my PC. Or better - swap with a sd card that already has the required files present (ie I have 2).

    the other thing that I always worry about is the battery. I have had to reboot my old Galaxy S1 by removing the battery before now. What do I do if it really goes belly up and needs a hard reset?

  • Re:Crazy tech? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Zuriel ( 1760072 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @07:15AM (#45057089)
    This. A friend was telling me about how superior his early, hard disk based MP3 player was compared to using modern Android or iOS devices. He could plug surround speakers into it, it had an equaliser, etc, etc, etc. So I pulled out my phone and asked him to show his MP3 player to me. He didn't have it with him. Convenience is a completely legitimate advantage. Yeah, a phone camera will always suck compared to a camera that's physically larger, but a camera that you have with you will always take better pictures than a camera that's in a drawer at home.
  • OIS (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @08:16AM (#45057383) Homepage

    "there’s no mention of that crazy Nikon tech, though"

    You do realize that Canon invented it and Nikon copied it right?
    Canon OIS is still the single most superior OIS out there. Nikon is good but nothing like what the Canon system can do, mostly because they have nearly a decade on them in R&D.

  • Re:Crazy tech? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AJH16 ( 940784 ) <aj AT ajhenderson DOT com> on Monday October 07, 2013 @09:13AM (#45057721) Homepage

    Arguably, the photos most people take with a smartphone are actually better than they would take with a "real" camera. As sensor size increases, sensitivity to focus also increases. If you don't know how to properly use the autofocus of your "real" camera, you'll get a lot of out of focus images. On a camera phone, it's a lot easier and there isn't a whole lot of advantage for a point and shoot over a smartphone.

    If you know what you are doing, the difference between a smartphone and a DSLR is night and day, but most people don't. Note, I say this as a professional photographer that shoots weddings with a Canon 5D Mark iii. I do it as a part time gig specifically because the impact on the market is quite real since the images are good enough for most people and even then, people flood in to the market thinking they can shoot weddings because they had some "good" facebook photos and bought an entry level DSLR with a kit lens.

    The fact is, the main thing that differentiates professional photographers from the amateur has very little to do with the photography. Even if you know how to use the gear perfectly, doing a good, professional job is far more about making the client comfortable, having the experience to avoid being overly noticeable while capturing the key moments, having the ability to interact with people in such a way to get both good posed and candid shots and the ability to run a business and sell yourself. The actual ability to take photos is the easiest 10% of what it takes to do the job.

  • by TheSkepticalOptimist ( 898384 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @09:26AM (#45057811)

    Yes but I expect more out of Apple because they brazenly claim to be superior to everyone else, and yet offer trivial updates and no real innovation for the first 6 versions of their iPhone, and even the iPhone 5s refresh is only skin deep in terms of innovation.

    I will start calling Google out when they have gone through 6 intervals of Nexus X devices and nothing has changed except the thickness of the phone, but the differences in Nexus 4 to 5 are more numerous than the differences between even iPhone 4 and iPhone 5, so they have a little more edge on innovation then Apple does.

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