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HP Releases Open webOS 1.0 51

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An anonymous reader writes "Hewlett-Packard has announced the release Open webOS version 1.0: 'We now have an OpenEmbedded build that allows a full webOS experience running inside an OE emulator. We have added core applications — email & browser — while continuing to support the desktop build environment. The 1.0 release also brings support for Enyo2. You can now take apps built on one of the best cross-platform JavaScript frameworks and easily run these same apps on Open webOS or other platforms. In the past 9 months, we have delivered over 75 Open webOS components. This totals over 450,000 lines of code. ... The source code for Open webOS can be found in Open webOS repositories on GitHub. Combining today's components with those from the previous releases, Open webOS can now be ported to new devices.' HP also reaffirmed plans to continue work on Open webOS, and to bring support for Qt5, WebKit2, open source media components, and more."
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HP Releases Open webOS 1.0

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  • Time to get WebOS running, ten minutes

    Time to get OpenEmbedded build working, ten weeks

    • by lkcl (517947) <lkcl@lkcl.net> on Saturday September 29, 2012 @10:21AM (#41498593) Homepage

      Time to get WebOS running, ten minutes

      Time to get OpenEmbedded build working, ten weeks

      amount of time taken asking questions: 0 seconds. ability read and follow instructions: 0%. ability to complain: 100%. ability to file bugreport or contact forum or mailing lists requesting detailed instructions: 0%.

      _come_ on, dude, you know the drill. if you can't get something working, *ask the developers*. give them detailed reports, help them diagnose the problem with the build instructions, so that they can be improved. over time, things get fixed, yeah?

      what would you have the developers do, huh? if you understand what openembedded's "bitbake" command is really about, and understand how powerful it is, you wouldn't be complaining, you'd be somewhere in awe or possibly shock. openembedded has a bang-per-buck ratio that's wayyy above anything else available from the free software community. gentoo's portage, buildroot, debian's build system - they're all child's toys by comparison.

      tell me if you know of any other cross-build system that, in order to correctly configure a package and cross-compile it, fires up a *native* gcc compiler and runs the autoconf configure script in a qemu command-line virtual environment. now that's just so fucking smart - it solves *all* the problems that all the other "autoconf cache" broken workarounds just can't get right.

      the people who came up with openembedded are just... unbelievably smart people. they know that they don't have a lot of resources, so they come up with solutions that make up for it, and do the work in an automated fashion. they've been at this for over 10 years, so cut them some slack, ok?

      • by Svartalf (2997)

        Heh... I've worked with part of those smart people... There's some legitimate gripes I've got with it all, but you'd be dead on about all of it all the same.

    • by Svartalf (2997)

      Really?

      Drop the meta-webos directory, in toto, into the OE-Core or Yocto main directory, source oe-init-build-env in the main directory, add the meta-webos directory to your config/layers.conf file in build (which you'll be moved to when you source oe-init-build-env...) and then type "bitbake webos-image".

      If you're green, a quick trip over to the Yocto project over at the Linux Foundation would be suggested and it doesn't take 10 weeks as implied. It might take a couple of hours if you need to refer to the

  • by Anonymous Coward

    This is why open sourcing software early on helps spur growth and adoption, not when the product might as well be abandonware. If an emulated webOS phone rings in a crowd full of Android devices, does it make a sound?

    • Hopefully this can get some traction and end up in 3rd place.

      Android
      iOS
      WebOS

      There's currently no good third place platform, just a bunch of crappy ones.

      • by CastrTroy (595695)
        Having never actually used a Windows phone, I have to ask, is it that bad? Or is it just that everyone hates it simple because it's from Microsoft, or possibly because Windows Mobile 6 was so bad that people think the new Windows phone couldn't possibly be any good. I mean, on phones the interface itself doesn't matter that much since it's mostly about the apps. Once you launch the app it takes over, so it doesn't really matter what the main interface is like too much.
        • by Anonymous Coward

          Having never actually used a Windows phone, I have to ask, is it that bad? Or is it just that everyone hates it simple because it's from Microsoft, or possibly because Windows Mobile 6 was so bad that people think the new Windows phone couldn't possibly be any good. I mean, on phones the interface itself doesn't matter that much since it's mostly about the apps. Once you launch the app it takes over, so it doesn't really matter what the main interface is like too much.

          It really is that crap. The standard demonstration is that you can't even launch that app because Windows phone doesn't support having a proper applications page like iOS Android or WebOS. It only lists them in alphabetical order or as live Tiles (similar to Nokia's old and disasterous "widget" feature from their internet devices) . This means that it's major saving grace is the fact that there are so few good apps that you might have a chance of remembering the name of the app you are looking for. Was it "

          • by Jaruzel (804522)

            I'll get modded off-topic for this, but I'm gonna post anyway...

            The above is great comment, it's informative and contains good grammar and useful information.

            The above is also a bad /. comment because it's been posted as AC with a value of 0. This means it will be hidden to most /. users and the modders will ignore it as modding it up doesn't help the poster.

            I'm seeing more and more good comments posted as AC - why is this? The /. community is shrinking, and everyone hiding behind AC is just making things w

            • I'm guessing it's because all the sockpuppet/shill accounts get mod points the same as everyone else and they go through and downmod everything that's anti MS.

              Alternately, maybe the writer actually works for MS?

              Sad, because that was a great comment, I've never used a Windows phone, and it laid out several practical ways that it fails in a real workflow without resorting to incomprehensible ranting. Whoever wrote it should get a +5 Informative.

              Sam

        • The current incarnation of Windows Phone is actually quite good. They've taken some good ideas from existing platforms, including a few from webOS and combined them into a pleasing, attractive package. The main problem with Windows Phone is that it hasn't been able to get any traction. It is certainly not number three.

          And I tend to disagree with the notion that phone UI is not important. Android for example is highly dependent on having users go to its home screen to get things done. That's one of the reaso

    • by oodaloop (1229816)

      If an emulated webOS phone rings in a crowd full of Android devices, does it make a sound?

      Maybe it's on vibrate.

    • Anyone know which licence Open webOS 1.0 uses?
    • by rvw (755107)

      If an emulated webOS phone rings in a crowd full of Android devices, does it make a sound?

      Do Androids dream of WebOS when they go to sleep?

      • Yes, webOS is the electric lamb which was sacrificed for our technological sins and which has now risen from the dead to point the way to our ultimate redemption.
                              - Palm 3:16

  • Here's to hoping the kinks get worked out for some bugfixes to my TouchPad tablet.
  • Remember (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SuperMooCow (2739821) on Saturday September 29, 2012 @10:06AM (#41498511)
    Before you list WebOS as "too little, too late", remember that the same can be said about FirefoxOS. Both are pointless in a sea of iOS and Android devices.
    • by oodaloop (1229816)
      Good point. They're both too little, too late.
      • I've yet to adopt either platform (iPhone / Android), because both force me into a subscription model that sees me like I was a bovine to exploit. What I want is a small, open, mobile computer with enhanced wireless communication that empowers me more than it enslaves me. FirefoxOS and open WebOS would be quite welcome on that front, if they could get through the north american carrier's evil marketing departments.

  • Didn't they kill that some time ago? I'm surprised it's still twitching.
  • by Chrisq (894406) on Saturday September 29, 2012 @10:30AM (#41498643)
    WebOS is like SCO. Whenever you think it has died it pops up in the news again.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I sense a new project...

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