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zacharye writes "Google chairman Eric Schmidt revealed in December that the company was working on its first own-brand tablet, and the 'Nexus 7' slate will finally be unveiled next week during the Google I/O developer conference, according to multiple reports. The latest reaffirmation comes from DigiTimes, which has reported a number of details surrounding Google's upcoming tablet that will seemingly prove accurate."
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Google's Nexus Tablet To Be Unveiled Next Week

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  • 7-inch? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nurb432 (527695) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @08:01PM (#40378787) Homepage Journal

    Smack in the middle of the market that currently B&N and Amazon hold. Seriously, 7" is e-book territory. They should have made an actual tablet. 8" or greater.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      You're expecting far too much from the product people at GOOG.

      • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by ozmanjusri (601766) <aussie_bob@NOsPam.hotmail.com> on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @11:13PM (#40380425) Journal

        You're expecting far too much from the product people at GOOG.

        Nick Wingfield, from NY Times, wrote, "With its new tablet, Microsoft will effectively be competing directly with its biggest customers. When asked whether Surface would damage those ties, Steven Sinofsky, the president of Microsoft’s Windows division, gently pushed a reporter in the direction of a stand of Surface tablets and said, "Go learn something.'"

        Google's customers are not B&N and Amazon. It is in Google's interest to have many Android vendors, not just a few large ones, and their reference Nexus designs are intended to kickstart competition in the tablet world in much the same way as they have for mobile phones.

        If you want to see the real competitive 7" tablet market, search for '7" Allwinner Android'. Go learn something.

        • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by recoiledsnake (879048) on Wednesday June 20, 2012 @02:25AM (#40381489)

          Here is what I learned by Googling that seem to be key differentiators of the 7" Allwinner.

          3. My A10 based tablet did not come with market, how can I install Market?

          If you are using Gingerbread (Android version 2.3.X) use Tasselhoff's Script. it can be found here
          2.3.x Topnotch Tablets A10 scripts download Page

          If you are using Ice Cream Sandwich (Android version 4.0.3) use Lordsbm's script. it can be found here
          Lordsbm's script for all allwinner A10 tablets

          If you are using Ice Cream Sandwich for Android version 4.0.3 you might need to use a 4.0.3 variant to get market. http://www.sappasit.go.th/android/ner_ics4.0.3.zip [sappasit.go.th]
          (Before flashing you might want to read Question 10 below for script customizations), Onda owners have provided positive feedback thus far for this script.

          If you are using 4.0.3 plus and the newtech25 script does not work. The final options is the
          XxLorxX Cleaned ICS Script
          For most tablets newtech25 seems fine. The Cleaned ICS script should only be used if the above fails. Novo 7A owners have provided positive feedback for this script.

          4. My A10 based tablet did not come with Google Maps/other google apps? Can I install it?

          If you are using Gingerbread (Android version 2.3.X) use the Automod Script. it can be found here
          2.3.x Topnotch Tablets A10 scripts download Page. Beware to _not_ use the build.prop from that script as it's compatability may not be good for all tablets. In that package you will find all the google apps in the apks subdirectory. copy them either into your tablets memory or on an sd card and install them.

          If you are using Ice Cream Sandwich (http://www.sappasit.go.th/android/ne...r_ics4.0.3.zip
          (Before flashing you might want to read Question 10 below for script customizations)

          How is this competitive?

          • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Informative)

            by ami.one (897193) <amitabhr@gmBOYSENail.com minus berry> on Wednesday June 20, 2012 @03:11AM (#40381697)

            You are probably getting those hits from the few models whose manufacturer's were not preloading Google Play / Market due to initial issues. Currently, almost all good Allwinner A10 tablets have Google Play working and actually perform much better than Samsung Galaxy Tab etc.

            I have got 5-6 of these A10 tabs from different manufacturers (for a retail project) and all except one are really good and cost below USD 100. Where they score above the branded ones are that all have a fully functional host USB unlike Samsung Nexus etc which advertise USB OTD but its really iffy. So you can connect a variety of peripherals and also run native ubuntu 12.04 nowdays. (earlier it was only the chrooted linux - see xda for details)

            Offcourse, they don't have brand recognition and in fact some have such funny names embossed on them that you would feel embarrassed taking them out in front of anyone ! Allwinner A10 has done an excellent job in getting usable tablets for the low end of the market. The earlier ones like rockchip/via etc were completely unusable.

            • In other words, "those guys just bought the wrong ones."

              So, how are they supposed to know which one to buy? And why are stores selling such crap in the first place?

              Now, go out and buy the wrong iPad. You can't.

              • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

                by Anonymous Coward

                Exactly.

                Repeat after me.

                Choice is bad.

                March in step.

                Follow the man in front.

                  Use what he uses.

                Wear what he wears.

                Buy Apple Products

                Conform.

        • by DrXym (126579)
          I have an Allwinner tablet, capacitive, 1GB ram, 8GB flash, 1.2Ghz ARM processor, Mali 400 GPU. It's actually pretty good quality, lasts about 3 or 4 hours. The flash is slow, the screen is a bit washed out and there are few touch glitches in ICS. But it works and it cost me 80 euros. They wholesale for $50 up.

          To me it demonstrates that Google should be able to comfortably producing something for under $200 with a better screen and support and still make a lot of money from it. Even if they don't make a

    • Re:7-inch? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Daetrin (576516) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @08:24PM (#40379011)
      I think the concern is that 8" or greater would be smack in the middle of the market that Apple currently holds, and there's a lot more brand identification with the iPad than there is with the Nook or Kindle. The Nook and the Kindle have proven that a cheap smaller tablet is salable and competing against them would be easier than competing against the iPad. Not to mention that matching them in price will be a lot easier since they don't have nearly the economy of scale that Apple can pull off with their huge orders of parts.

      Also, the company that's supposed to be producing the Nexus 7 already has a very nice line of larger tablets available. [wikipedia.org]
      • by nurb432 (527695)

        Nook and kindle exist due to their ecosystem and true brand recognition outside of the 'geek' community. I don't know if what Google has would unseat either of them.

        8" would just be the start, for people ( like me ) that feel 7 is too small, but don't want a 9.x to lug around ( unless its color e-ink, then id love 9.x ), but could do like Samsung and have many choices, but still not starting out in the e-book market.

        • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Daetrin (576516) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @08:47PM (#40379225)
          I actually quite like my 7" Nook, i can actually stick it in my pocket if i'm wearing cargo pants/shorts. I'm not sure i'd be able to do that if it was much bigger though.

          Also, i forgot to mention it above, but i suspect Google is probably quite interested in blunting the momentum of the Kindle Fire if they can. Amazon rolling their own version of Android and cutting Google out of the market and ad loop is perfectly legal under the licensing terms, but that doesn't mean Google is necessarily pleased with the idea.
          • by mcrbids (148650)

            We have two tablets for my wife and I, an iPad and a 7" Acer Iconia. I much prefer the smaller Iconia, I'm near-sighted, and don't like the extra weight/leverage that the ipad brings. My wife, who's a bit far sighted, prefers the larger screen of the iPad.

            Truth? My biggest beef with the iPad is the lack of a universal "back" button. My wife's preference is for the bigger screen. Reality is that either is a truly viable product and I'd recommend either. The iPad offers integration with Apple TV (awesome once

          • by mjwx (966435)

            I actually quite like my 7" Nook, i can actually stick it in my pocket if i'm wearing cargo pants/shorts. I'm not sure i'd be able to do that if it was much bigger though.

            I used to believe 7" tablets were too small until I actually used one (an old Samsung P1000) but that changed my mind, the text wasn't too small to read, it's a little bit bigger then an A5 page, which is the standard size for novels. Web pages were fine as was video. Considering that the places where I use my tablet tend to be spaces t

        • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Interesting)

          by hawguy (1600213) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @10:24PM (#40380051)

          Nook and kindle exist due to their ecosystem and true brand recognition outside of the 'geek' community. I don't know if what Google has would unseat either of them.

          I think the biggest thing a Google tablet can offer over a Nook/Kindle tablet is the ability to run both the Kindle app and the Nook app on the same device without having to boot into a different operating system.

          • Funny how the supposedly "anticompetitive" Apple product is the one where you can run both, *and* iBooks, yet somehow Android is "more open"...

            • that anticompetive (notice, no quotes) iOS device doesn't let you purchase books from within the kindle or nook apps. android? no problem.

    • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by roc97007 (608802) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @08:42PM (#40379175) Journal

      I haven't bought a tablet yet because I have been waiting for something like this. 7 inches because it will be easy to carry, (the only useful computer is one you have with you) and from a source where I have a chance in hell of ever seeing an OS update. I thought the Samsung Galaxy 7 was my device, but negative experiences with the first Galaxy phone decided me against it.

    • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by White Flame (1074973) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @08:44PM (#40379201)

      Rumor has it that the screen resolution will be 1280x800. That's pretty decent for that screen size, and should allow real application content on the screen.

      • by Merk42 (1906718)
        I wonder if they'll market it as *~Retina~*
    • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by suomynonAyletamitlU (1618513) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @09:03PM (#40379381)

      Smack in the middle of the market that currently B&N and Amazon hold.

      I think you forget what the Nexus line of devices is. Reference platforms are made, among other reasons, so that the people behind the OS know what they're programming for. If people are already using this form factor (size, approximate resolution, pixel density, aspect ratio, etc), then a Nexus-line device standardizes that. (There is some problem with that when it comes to Android devices, but whatever, you get the point) That (in principle) helps app devs, OS devs, and yes hardware devs too.

      I note that they call it the Nexus *7*, which also implies they could be making a Nexus 10, 5, 8, or other screen sizes in the future.

      • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by swillden (191260) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @11:28PM (#40380517) Homepage Journal

        Smack in the middle of the market that currently B&N and Amazon hold.

        I think you forget what the Nexus line of devices is. Reference platforms are made, among other reasons, so that the people behind the OS know what they're programming for.

        In addition, Google has used the Nexus line as a way to combat the tendency of manufacturers to muck Android up with all sorts of "overlays" and modifications that generally do a lot of damage to the user experience. It's just like the tendency of PC vendors to pre-install loads of crapware, but harder to fix. So Google's Nexus devices showcase the "Google Experience" version of Android, in the hopes that users will see just how bad their devices have been screwed up and put pressure on the manufacturers (and carriers), to stop it.

        Given what Barnes and Noble and Amazon have done with the Nook and Fire, locking them down, removing all sorts of features, providing only a very limited app store, and just generally making the devices suck as general-purpose tablets in an attempt to lock the users into their respective ecosystems, it seems to me that it's high time for Google to show people how an Android device with that form factor and cost price should work.

        (Disclaimer 1: I haven't actually touched a Fire; everything I know about it is second and third-hand. I did, however, try to help my sister root her Nook and work around many of the limitations B&N had built in. The attempt was somewhat successful, but still a pretty poor UX. She ended up returning the Nook and buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1, and is very happy with it, even though it cost significantly more money.)

        (Disclaimer 2: I work for Google, but don't work on Android or anything to do with tablets. I do have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 running Honeycomb which I quite like, however. Though I wish Samsung would release the ICS upgrade.)

    • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by steveha (103154) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @09:57PM (#40379849) Homepage

      I think it is quite clear that Google is on a mission here, and that mission is: ship a compelling tablet at the exact same price as a Kindle Fire.

      Would an 8" screen make the tablet more compelling? IMHO, not really.

      Would an 8" screen make it harder to hit the $199 price point? Yes. Not only are larger screens more expensive as a general rule, but the massive number of 7" devices already on the market mean that there should be multiple possible sources for a 7" screen, and volumes should help keep the cost down.

      Will the Nexus 7 have a retina display? No, absolutely not, because there is no way they could hit the $199 price point.

      Will the Nexus 7 have a GPS? Only if it can have a GPS and still hit the $199 price point.

      Will the Nexus 7 have a camera? According to one of the linked articles, it will have a forward-facing camera for video conferencing, and will not have a rearward-facing camera to save on costs. As I already have a phone with a rearward-facing camera, a rearward-facing camera isn't that compelling IMHO, and I think Google made exactly the correct call here.

      How much flash will it have? As much as it can have while still costing $199. I predict 8 GB.

      I think you get the idea.

      steveha

      • by McFadden (809368)
        If they decide to make it cellular capable, they could leverage the kinds of subsidies that the carriers offer and build a better tablet but still hit $199. It simply wouldn't make sense for me, with all the hoohah about maps recently, that they would ship a tablet without GPS.
        • by ArtDent (83554)

          A device that comes with thousands of dollars in carrier commitments does not cost $199.

      • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by White Flame (1074973) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @11:26PM (#40380501)

        Will the Nexus 7 have a retina display? No, absolutely not, because there is no way they could hit the $199 price point.

        At a rumored 1280x800 res at 7", that's 215dpi, which certainly sounds close enough to "retina". Sure, it's a bit lower than what's available now but really does get there. While there's varying speculation about the smaller dimension, the 1280 and 7" are pretty fixed.

        • by steveha (103154)

          At a rumored 1280x800 res at 7", that's 215dpi, which certainly sounds close enough to "retina".

          That's highly interesting! Apple is now claiming that 220 DPI is a "retina display" for their new MacBook Pro model, so maybe the Nexus 7 will have a "retina display" after all.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display [wikipedia.org]

          But it turns out that Apple is trying to trademark "retina display" so maybe we will not be allowed to use that term on the Nexus 7.

          1280x800, plus a Tegra 3, means we will be able to watch HD con

          • by jo_ham (604554)

            There's nothing about "now claiming" - the definition of Retina Display includes the viewing distance to the screen, so a laptop or desktop doesn't need to be as high a dpi figure to meet the definition, since you view the screen from further away. All that is required is that (for someone with 'perfect' uncorrected vision), the eye cannot distinguish the individual pixels at the standard viewing distance of the screen in question.

            For phones and tablets this distance is small than for laptops, hence the MBP

            • by ArtDent (83554)

              "The definition of Retina Display..." Hahahaha, good one!

              The definition of Retina Display is "the display on whatever new device Apple is launching."

              Apple chooses different resolutions and densities for whatever reason (e.g. we still don't have a framework for resolution-independent graphics, so we're just going to double each dimension), and then calls the result Retina Display.

              It's pure marketing BS.

      • by Merk42 (1906718)

        Will the Nexus 7 have a retina display? No, absolutely not, because there is no way they could hit the $199 price point.

        Actually, yes.
        Given Apple's own formula, a 1280x800 7" device viewed at 15" IS Retina
        http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/44196/does-the-ipad-2012-3rd-generation-have-the-most-pixels-of-any-tablets-displa/44222 [stackexchange.com]

    • Ten inch is too big...I want my next tablet to be 7". The smartphone is too small and the tablet is too big. I wasn't surprised to see Microsoft offering a bigger screen on "The Surface" than the iPad. They just do not get it. Oh yeah, now I know why MSFT had "hastily gathered" product launching. They found out about the Google tab and freaked out....like it matters. They are still living in 1995.

    • Re:7-inch? (Score:5, Funny)

      by symbolset (646467) * on Wednesday June 20, 2012 @01:40AM (#40381305) Journal
      I'm writing this reply on my Asus Transformer TF101. This thing is awesome. My only problem with it is I need to work it one-handed. I need the other hand to hold the flyswatter I need to chase the children away from it. I can't afford Transformers for all. $200 tablets? That I could do.
    • by peragrin (659227)

      damn straight. while 10" tablets are nice for some things fitting on desks while trying to work isn't one of them.

      I am looking for an up to date 7" android tablet that doesn't need to be modded and rooted into oblivion to work right.

    • I am diging the 7-inch. I have a 7 inch Galaxy Tab and it is -exactly- the right size to actually carry in a coat pocket, or the back pocket of jeans as long as you remember to move it before you sit. I bigger format is not something I would carry everywhere the way I can carry a 7-inch tab.

      I will totally look at upgrading to this since the Galaxy Tab was abandoned by Samsung as far as updates.

      I didn't switch to any of the 8-or-larger formats because they really -aren't- go anywhere devices.

    • by DrXym (126579)
      Bigger tablets cost more money. The reasoning is probably to get a good quality 7" tablet out there and sell it as cheaply as possible. Not only does it undercut the iPad but it diverts sales away from Amazon too.
  • I want one, just so I can call it Rachael.
  • So basically, this post is news that we'll have some news next week. Very informative. Thank you.
  • This is good news, most of Google's hardware/software things are pretty awesome, but are marketed pathetically. Such as the Nexus series of phones. The Nexus Galaxy was a bit better with marketing, but they should have gone for all of the "big 4".

    Please Google, sell this in retail stores all around, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. and don't make this be such a niche product where you have to order online and hope its as good as the reviews say.

    Google has an advantage to all the rest of the tablets:
  • by ad454 (325846) on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @11:08PM (#40380389)

    Although I love my iPad3 64GB and its retina display that really is indispensable for document reading, web, e-mail, etc., the iPad3 still has a lot of shortcomings.

    If I was to design my dream tablet-phone it would have:

    * Wi-Fi, 4G, GSM + CDMA (including audio for phone calls), BlueTooth, and NFC (with security element for Wallet and Authentication)
    * 7 inch size, which fits nicely in my purse and eliminates the need to carry a separate tablet
    * edge-to-edge-to-edge OLED display without any bezel
    * "retina" resolution, well beyond 1080p, Apple has shown this is needed
    * GPS (with offline turn-by-turn maps)
    * true USB host support, none of this restrictive camera connection kit garbage
    * mini-SD slot
    * HMDI-out slot
    * kick-stand + thin smart-cover like keyboard, like those in new Microsoft Surface Tablets
    * pointy stylus, like Samsung Note
    * high quality and high resolution rear camera with LED flash, and works in low light (indoors), supports RAW photos and 1080p video
    * 64GB min flash

    I would be okay with iOS, Android, and maybe Windows, provided that there is enough decent apps, and one can get access to the underlying OS (via jailbreak/root).

    • by exomondo (1725132)

      * 7 inch size, which fits nicely in my purse and eliminates the need to carry a separate tablet
      * "retina" resolution, well beyond 1080p, Apple has shown this is needed

      Why would you need something "well beyond" 1080p on a 7" tablet?

    • by melted (227442)

      You forgot to mention that you're only willing to pay $200 or less for all of that. :-)

  • by cstacy (534252) on Wednesday June 20, 2012 @12:10AM (#40380797)
    I only do "i"s.
  • After looking at all of the ipads, galaxy media players and ereaders, I went cheap and got an ipod touch.

    It may be walled, but it's a good kind of walled (and each of us already has a secret garden inside anyway).

    Seriously though, the laptop is best for work and tv-substitute at home, IMHO; otherwise, for that on-the-go crap the ipod touch seems more than adequate (in a non-double-entendre kind of way). I don't know why the world needs more "in-betweens".
  • I've only ever seen my daughter use the front cam, and that was the first day we got an iPad when the photo booth seemed like so much fun. She facetimes on her touch with a friend who moved to another state, but I suspect that's mainly because it's a touch and doesn't have an embedded audio-only client.

    Seriously - aside from the first week or two of "ooh - look what I can do," is video chat a really useful function? OTOH, I use the camera on the back of my tablet to take pictures (i.e. photocopy) stuff in

  • ...Ballmer had to show of a partially complete Win8-based tablet on Monday. To try to show they were ahead of Google. Never mind that Google's tablet is far more complete and closer to shipping.

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