Android Users Aren't As Disloyal As Reported 246
ergo98 writes "As we discussed recently, a CNN article had a statement that '77% of iPhone owners say they'll buy another iPhone, compared to 20% of Android customers who say they'll buy another Android phone.' This was a gross misrepresentation. The CNN story now has up this note: 'Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that 20% of Android customers say they'll buy another Android phone. The survey actually revealed that 20% of all smartphone customers say they'll buy an Android phone.' The Yankee Group has further sought to clarify the situation by saying that the 20% are people who explicitly said they would buy a 'Google-branded' phone (which excludes the overwhelming majority of popular Android phones) — as Google gets out of the business of selling branded phones. Summarizing their position on Android: 'Yankee Group still believes that Android will become the next breakout mobile phone platform, making it the third most popular platform behind iPhone and RIM's Blackberry in installed base for at least the next five years.'"
Confirmation Bias? (Score:4, Interesting)
Someone here got accused of confirmation bias for doubting the study.
by gyrogeerloose (849181)
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on Saturday July 24, @06:08PM (#33016628)
Who did they ask? People inside of Apple's campus.. You've got to be kidding me.
Got to love it--some research challenges your preconceived notions so, of course, the only thing to do is reconsider said notions, right?
Wrong. Better to disparage the research than admit they might have been incorrect.
Come on, parent is not a troll. (Score:3, Insightful)
by Abcd1234 (188840)
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on Saturday July 24, @06:17PM (#33016700) Homepage
In fact, he nailed it spot on. The GP doesn't like the conclusions of the study, so he just assumes the study or the researchers are wrong. It's an excellent illustration of confirmation bias (or, in this case, its inverse).
Maybe it was actually confirmation bias from the said Apple fan, that Android was so disliked and hence he got taken in by the false report?
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Maybe it was actually confirmation bias from the said Apple fan, that Android was so disliked and hence he got taken in by the false report?
An apple fan . . . admit they're wrong about Apple being the greatest thing since sliced bread? What weird world did you come from.
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Maybe it was actually confirmation bias from the said Apple fan, that Android was so disliked and hence he got taken in by the false report?
An apple fan . . . admit they're wrong about Apple being the greatest thing since sliced bread? What weird world did you come from.
I'm an Apple fan, yet I have no problem admitting when they are wrong and their product shortcomings.
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I am an Apple fan, and this is a post I made yesterday:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1731258&cid=33023312 [slashdot.org]
I have made several posts just like it in the past pointing out the downsides in Apple products, as well as the benefits - it's the nature of mass production compared to bespoke construction/design etc.
It seems that the only people who suggest Apple users think their devices are perfect are the anti-Apple crowd who preach it as "fact" without actually knowing much about actual Apple users.
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Apple fans are using up all their mod points tonight
Re:Confirmation Bias? (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe it was actually confirmation bias from the said Apple fan, that Android was so disliked and hence he got taken in by the false report?
Why does this have to be an 'either/or' question? We all know surveys like this don't really provide an actual usable data.
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Why does this have to be an 'either/or' question? We all know surveys like this don't really provide an actual usable data.
Actually, 77% of these surveys don't really provide usable data. 20% want to be an Android survey.
Re:Confirmation Bias? (Score:5, Insightful)
In my experience people who bemoan others for 'preconceived notions' are most often the ones truly guilty of it. Similarly, to be 'open-minded' has simply come to mean 'alternately' or 'unconventionally' 'minded'. Sad world we live in where cultural-mental 'progress' is merely a shift and all the same problems exist; but I've gotten off topic.
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I haven't had an IPhone, AT&T offered me one for $15 but I declined. I didn't have a smartphone but I'm not the sort who is usually a light data user and AT&T dropped their unlimited plan. Also they offer no insurance on the IPhone. Also they can't waive upgrade and early termination fees on the IPhone under even extenuating circumstance.
But anyway, I've found the android pretty easy and pleasant to use. To see any Linux you actually have to get a third party utility to open a shell.
The only complai
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"I was really making a comparison about UI design, not saying that you actually see Linux on Android."
That makes even less sense. Linux has the most streamlined desktop GUI these days. MacOS is a close second runner up though.
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Really? Troll? In what universe was that post a troll?
Slashdot's really hit the toilet these days.
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Sorry to hear about all of your problems. The Galaxy S is a very nice piece of hardware. It's really too bad that Android is so unpolished.
You're right--the settings really exemplify the problems with Android.
Good luck on your swap!
Push Poll (Score:3, Insightful)
This is a marketing strategy known as the Push Poll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll).
You ask the questions in such a way as to get the answer you want.
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That's not really how the article describes push polling, which is more of a way of campaigning (or mudslinging) than a method of polling. Push polling is a way to get the people you poll to think something is true. This is more of a manipulation of the poll in order to get the results you want so that the rest of the world thinks that your outcome is true.
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In fact, he nailed it spot on. The GP doesn't like the conclusions of the study, so he just assumes the study or the researchers are wrong. It's an excellent illustration of confirmation bias (or, in this case, its inverse).
Maybe it was actually confirmation bias from the said Apple fan, that Android was so disliked and hence he got taken in by the false report?
Or maybe gyrogeerloose's reaction of "This poll result can't be right because I don't believe it" was an illogical one even though it was ultimately correct.
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Just because you were vindicated in hindsight doesn't mean they didn't have a point. Did your doubt of the announced conclusion of the study arise from examining the study itself and its methodology, or at least a track record of bad reporting by the reporter? Or was it based on the (announced) conclusions, and a refusal to believe them?
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I'm going to guess neither. I'd imagine it was more of an application of Sagan's Law: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
A study that says that a popular smartphone OS is so bad that only 20% of its users plan to buy another one is an extraordinary claim. If that were true, there's no way that a second or third manufacturer would start building phones based on the same OS and technology, much less the almost two DOZEN smartphone makers currently building Android-based phones. Even as an
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Well, no, this is how thinking works.
Something comes up from the back of your brain to the middle, and the middle says "yeah that's right" or "wait a second, that can't be right" and if it thinks it's right the front of your brain makes it come out your face.
In the hive-mind we do the same thing, only journalists are the back of the brain and the rest of us are the middle and there is no real front. So there's lots of uncoordinated data coming from the back and we're in the middle judging its quality and i
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The fact is, if all you have to say is "I don't like the results of this study" then how can you say it's not confirma
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Not a troll, these are relevant facts and on topic with regard to the story.
A lot of heavy handed Apple modding in the comments on this one. Looks like some people weren't happy to lose their rosy picture.
Re:Confirmation Bias? (Score:4, Funny)
And Linux/Open Source Zealots are any different. Any Statics against Open Source are obviously false. Any stats for get a bunch of "About Time!" posts. Zealotry/Fan Boyism will lead to endless debates and complaints.
Apple is Evil
Linux is Lame
Windows is washed up.
They all have their weeknesses zealotry on any product really hurts the product you are zealot about. Because you turn a blind eye on many of its faults and failed to see the other sides strengths.
I sense a disturbance in the force (Score:2, Funny)
It's as if millions of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
Re:I sense a disturbance in the force (Score:5, Insightful)
It's as if millions of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
and replaced by the cries of millions of opposing fanboys.
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It's as if millions of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
Nothing silences a fanboy.
Except Chuck Norris.
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It's as if millions of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
Come on.. Like that could ever happen..
Good grief, of course not. (Score:2)
Android Users Aren't As Disloyal As Reported
Of course not, it not in their programming (Asimov's Laws, and all). Unless they are Borg...
What an Idiotic Blunder (Score:5, Insightful)
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Some non-nexus phones are google branded. For example, I have a samsung moment, and it says "Google" on the outside in permanent lettering. So some android phones are additionally google branded
Still, it's pretty stupid to equate android with google branding.
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Some non-nexus phones are google branded. For example, I have a samsung moment, and it says "Google" on the outside in permanent lettering. So some android phones are additionally google branded
Still, it's pretty stupid to equate android with google branding.
If you read the links, "Google Branded" only includes phones manufactured under Google name (i.e. Nexus One) - does not include the "Google Inside" stickers on some Android phones. They only collected data on manufacturer name of the phone, not os - so they have no idea on Android stats as same manufacturers would manufacture non-Android phones.
-Em
Re:What an Idiotic Blunder (Score:4, Interesting)
I'll be sure to consider immediately discarding any statistics released by "Yankee Group" in the future, because they could have just "accidentally" forgot to mention some important detail. Ridiculous.
It's not their fault CNN Money fails at reading comprehension and cannot gist data correctly.
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Not only did I not trust Yankee Group's numbers before, but now I realize they asked an ignorant question about "google branded" phones? What the hell sense does that have in a comparison between iPhones and Android phones? I'll be sure to consider immediately discarding any statistics released by "Yankee Group" in the future, because they could have just "accidentally" forgot to mention some important detail. Ridiculous.
At least they are honest. From the Yankee Group's Blog (linked in story above):
So what is the right statistic for Android owners? The honest answer is that we don’t know.
Its not like they are selling statistics.... oh, wait....
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Re: Google branded; People fully immersed in a traditional closed-architecture business model may have trouble wrapping their brains around Android.
The i-phone is a device created by a manufacturer. It has a gui and an app store and a bazillion apps and these things only run on the device from this manufacturer. Sales of the device are easy to track -- Apple sells a certain number of phones, and that is the sum total of i-phones sold.
Android is not a device. Trivially it's an operating system, but
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I don't think it's really all that different from comparing Windows market share to Mac OS or even just OS X (to keep things slightly simpler and more relevant) market share. Windows is an OS which runs on hardware sold by lots of manufacturers and there are numerous versions of it in use at any point in time. OS X is software developed by Apple to run on hardware sold by Apple. There are still a few versions of it in use at any point in time.
There's really nothing here that should be confusing to anyone
How many Android users know what they're using? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:How many Android users know what they're using? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Well maybe "google phone" is the right phrase - since most of them have the Google logo on them (on the back).
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I doubt many people (i.e. "consumers") make the connection between the whole dark and stormy "Droid Does" marketing campaign and the light and airy green Android robot mascot.
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Contacts turned to people also breaks a lot of third party apps.
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(funny, some of my contacts are businesses and schools not always people)
A corporation is legally a person [wikipedia.org].
Damage is already done (Score:2, Insightful)
AT&T and Apple couldn't have bought better advertising.
Even the original statement, 20% of android users are going to get a new phone vs 77% of apple users being happy was biased reporting. If reported in an unbiased manner that would be 80% happy android users vs 77% Apple or 20% unhappy vs 23%, etc. Both would be the positive or the negative.
Note: As a mildly respected member of the Slashdot community I didn't RTFA just TFS so the article may not have been biased at all.
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According to Nielsen [nielsen.com], Android market share in 2010 Q1 was 9%.
If 20% of the overall smartphone market wants to buy an Android phone next, then it means that:
20/9 = 222% of Android users will buy another Android phone!
Take that, Apple! Your 77% is nothing!
p.s. no, I don't believe in any way that this is correct way of looking at these numbers.
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That's 77% of apple users, not 77% of the market. That was 20% of the market buying androids (or 'google brand phone') so these numbers do indicate an increase in android market share.
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That's 77% of apple users, not 77% of the market. That was 20% of the market buying androids (or 'google brand phone') so these numbers do indicate an increase in android market share.
Its 20% of ALL users with smartphones (including iPhones) say they would buy an Android phone next. The comparable number for that from same study is 34% of all users with smarphones (including iPhones) would buy iPhone (if you do math, that means 12% of non-Apple smartphone users). From same study 77% of iPhone users would buy another iPhone, while 32% of Google Brand phone users (meaning pretty much G1 or NexusOne only, not Android in general) would buy another Google Branded phone( which is insane, consi
New Math - more will switch AWAY from iPhone.... (Score:2)
So let's play some numbers game.
According to Nielsen [nielsen.com], Android market share in 2010 Q1 was 9%.
If 20% of the overall smartphone market wants to buy an Android phone next, then it means that:
20/9 = 222% of Android users will buy another Android phone!
Take that, Apple! Your 77% is nothing!
p.s. no, I don't believe in any way that this is correct way of looking at these numbers.
It is at least as "correct" as their way. But if you read carefully, they include the iPhone users in the "smartphone" category. Two can play this game -- we can do some "math" too.
Assuming iPhone in the study is represented roughly same as the market share (28%), this would really skew the numbers in its favor. Lets un-skew. This means that of 34% Smartphone users that would buy iPhone as their next phone, 22% (28%*0.77) are already iPhone users - meaning that only 12% (34%-22%) of the users would switch
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Offtopic?
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"Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that 20% of Android customers say they'll buy another Android phone. The survey actually revealed that 20% of all smartphone customers say they'll buy an Android phone.' The Yankee Group has further sought to clarify the situation by saying that the 20% are people who explicitly said they would buy a 'Google-branded' phone"
Now I have to read TFA. Your reading sounds the same as the uncorrected story... which would support my assertion that the d
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Well, I'm not sure how you got that out of TFS, but from TFA, it's a lot simpler:
20% of "google-branded phone" users plan to buy an Android phone.
77% of iPhone users plan to buy an iPhone.
IIRC, 34% of "google-branded phone" users plan to buy an iPhone, FWIW.
Note that these stats are pre-iPhone4, but it's not clear (and I didn't do any digging to find out) whether this was before or after the barphone prototype was publicized. The presence of a new generation of iPhone with (this is important) the highest resolution display available could well be responsible for the spike in iPhone interest among all users.
Guess its not as simple as you thought. Actual stats they are claiming them now are:
20% of ALL smartphone users would buy Android,
34% of ALL smartphone users would buy iPhone,
77% of iPhone users would buy another iPhone , and
32% of users of phones manufactured by "Google" (NexusOne) users would buy another phone manufactured by "Google" (not same thing as Android or "with Google" labeled phone !!!)
Hope this helps people to understand this mess of misinformation.
-Em
iPhone will lose (Score:2)
The iPhone will lose if Apple continues to treat customers the way it currently does.
Re:iPhone will lose (Score:5, Insightful)
Good news! (Score:2)
Since putting my 'proper' job on hold I've clocked up around 2 months of 16-hour days working on my first Android game, with roughly a month to go, so it would be great if the whole world would buy Android phones please!
Oh and if everyone could also start pining for a retro-style vertically-scrolling shoot-em-up then that would be great too :-)
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My wife likes her HTC Magic (Score:4, Interesting)
In fact it is the only technological device she doesn't constantly complain about. The way it is going she will get a new phone of the same type when this one comes off contract.
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And a friend of mine tells me she "want's that iPhone you have!", which is a HTC Desire.
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Why not, we call all restaurants Taco Bell... Wait, that hasn't happened yet.
Nothing to see here citizen, move along.
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Another phone? (Score:3, Funny)
Why would you need two phones?
Re:Another phone? (Score:4, Informative)
As a backup [notebooks.com]?
Re:Another phone? (Score:5, Funny)
It's still looks pretty bad...but it's not. (Score:5, Insightful)
Nonetheless, even though Android doesn't seem to be getting a lot of love lately (or at least according to this survey), the thing to keep in mind is that Android's market presence has become notably stronger since the G1 came out. I honestly think that from a phone perspective, the Nexus One had serious potential to realistically compete with the iPhone (3GS) behemoth, considering that it's similar to the iPhone while offering a completely different, and completely usable, experience at a lower price. It's a shame that Google (and T-Mobile!) didn't promote the phone as actively as they could have; it had TONS of potential. Look at how well the Droid's doing on Verizon! (Yes, the Samsung Galaxy S line is much more feature-rich, but it's a toy. The Nexus One was a statement...and a damned good looking one.)
Let's put it this way: at least it's not just Blackberry and Windows Mobile anymore!
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Re:It's still looks pretty bad...but it's not. (Score:4, Interesting)
I think Google will make another effort down the line. Android seems to be losing its focus, since it's becoming a lot like Windows Mobile in its execution. The ONLY phone shipping the "Google Experience" (i.e. Android as intended, more or less) was the Nexus One, every other phone out there has some sort of skin FORCEFULLY installed on it (HTC Sense, MOTOBLUR, TouchWiz, etc). To further feed the fire, many of those phones have tons of applications that are completely unnecessary and only seem to help the carrier --- COMPLETELY like the carrier-provided smart (and dumb!) phones that came before the smartphone explosion.
Forget the fact that most of these phones are a bit difficult to root/unlock. When a person buys an iPhone, they get software that, in its stock form, is EXACTLY as Apple intended it. It doesn't have Facebook or anything like that pre-installed; the user get the Apple bits right from the beginning, and everything added after that is entirely up to him or her. Not so when you buy Android...and the sad part is that the stock UI is actually quite good! It's not like Windows Mobile where HTC et. al. HAD to put TouchFLO/Sense on top of it because it was fugly compared to everything else out there.
Look at TouchWiz on the Vibrant, for instance. It tries really, really hard to provide an iPhone-like interface in hopes of being easy to use. The only problem is that it's not. They COULD try and provide something 'different' (which a LOT of people would probably appreciate, if it works) like HTC does with Sense, but that would make way too much sense.
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everything added after that is entirely up to him or her.
... well, unless it's porn, flash, or anything programmable ... currently.
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Android seems to be losing its focus, since it's becoming a lot like Windows Mobile in its execution. The ONLY phone shipping the "Google Experience" (i.e. Android as intended, more or less) was the Nexus One, every other phone out there has some sort of skin FORCEFULLY installed on it (HTC Sense, MOTOBLUR, TouchWiz, etc). To further feed the fire, many of those phones have tons of applications that are completely unnecessary and only seem to help the carrier --- COMPLETELY like the carrier-provided smart (and dumb!) phones that came before the smartphone explosion.
Apple's customer is the consumer, and they will fight the carriers to create the experience they believe the consumer will want. They may not deliver an experience you (or I) want, but they are trying to deliver an experience for an end user.
Google's customers are the carriers. They only want to keep the smartphone market segmented and open to their ad/search control. As long as they can sell your eyes and your personal information, they really don't care what your personal experience is. (Except it can't g
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? My HTC Hero came from sprint with OS Version 2.2 preloaded.
I also believe the Evo has 2.2
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"Thus, I'd say that surveying how many are likely to get Google-branded phones is a pretty reasonable indicator of how well Android is doing in the marketplace. "
Not when your surveyors are only calling people with actual google branded phones from lists provided by the carriers like these guys.
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P.S. The story put the lack of love spin on the numbers. The numbers did not.
Per Neilson Android has 9% market share, IPhone has 28%. This says only 77% of Iphoners are going to keep their phones and 20% of the entire market (including iphoners) are going to buy an Android.
That means if these numbers are correct Android will soon have a greater marketshare than the IPhone.
But that was before the front page CNN article telling everyone the IPhone rocks and Android sux0rs.
Strange article (Score:2)
That's the key finding in a survey released this week by Yankee Group, which reports that 73% of iPhone users are very satisfied with AT&T's service.
The satisfaction rate of AT&T subscribers as a whole is 68%, and only 69% of smartphone users say they are satisfied with their mobile provider, Yankee Group found.
So... a whopping 5% (4% if you confine yourself to smartphones, which they rather broadly defined) more iPhone users are satisfied with AT&T than the aggregate of all subscribers? What was the margin of error on this? Why is it a story that a tiny bit more iPhone users are satisfied with their provider than non-iPhone users?
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The CNN article only told half the story. [computerworld.com]
Why do these statistics matter? (Score:2)
Does knowing your particular phone sold more/less/is an iPhone really matter?
Who's keeping score? Why?
All I care about is that there are smart phones on the market that aren't WinMo, BB or Symbian.
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They would matter to you if you were trying to market a new phone.
Android Users Aren't As Disloyal As Reported (Score:2)
Sad to see Google bail on the hardware (Score:5, Interesting)
I really disappointed that Google is going to stop selling handsets. I was waiting for a Nexus Two.
I want a phone that has a pure (plain?) Android experience. I don't want the layers that Motorola and HTC add to differentiate themselves, not to mention all the bloatware. It wouldn't bother me so much if I was able to reformat a phone in the same way I can reformat a Dell or HP machine to clear off all the crap, but as far as I know, I can't.
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Let's see... Google gave all of their employees the G1 for Christmas of 2008, same happened with the Nexus One for Christmas of 2009. Maybe you should check back around Christmas time.
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No dice. This year they're all getting turkeys.
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I think he was talking about Google, not Microsoft [pcmag.com].
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Personally, I was waiting for the Nexus 6 model... it's seen things you people wouldn't believe.
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No, but it wants more (battery) life, f*cker.
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There are a number of Android phones that can have custom (or vanilla) roms flashed onto them. It's not really any harder now than reinstalling a stock version of an OS on your pc (instead of the rescue disks crap they give you now). The vast majority of the process is quite automated now.
See http://www.mydroidworld.com/ [mydroidworld.com] and their forums for the current state of what phones can bee rooted and what phones can be reflashed and with what. Heck many of the phones can even be overclocked if you so desire :)
So tired of phone drama (Score:2, Insightful)
Buy whatever phone you like and shut up about it.
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Bravo!
(deep breath) It's JUST a PHONE, people. That felt good.
The Yankee Group (Score:4, Informative)
The Yankee Group has been a microsoft shil for years!
Do the math.
I'm not sure how much of a "group" they are. After all, they have more directors and officers than "analysts." Still I'm sure the microsoft money is good.. http://www.yankeegroup.com/listAnalysts.do [yankeegroup.com]
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Too many versions of Android already! (Score:2)
Honestly, I think the popularity of these products will increase with time. Right now, it's pretty frustrating, because like a full-blown computer, you have to be concerned with the version a phone is running, and whether or not upgrades are going to be available for it!
EG. Nextel finally has an Android phone out as of yesterday that supports "push to talk" on their IDEN network. This is great news for those of us with companies stuck on Nextel because so many people are using them as walkie-talkies. Pr
Suddenly (Score:2)
That should fix'em
Google
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The iPhone is also the gift that keeps on giving: 77% of iPhone owners say they'll buy another iPhone, compared to 20% of smartphone customers who say they'll buy an Android phone.
How does one compare these statistics?
Re:Statistics (Score:4, Interesting)
Simple, the article is written by an Apple fanboi who is trying to find some way to skew things in Apple's favor.
Apple has 28% of the smartphone market, Android has 9%. 20% of ALL smartphone users say they are going to buy Android for their next phone. In other words, even if 100% of iPhone owners were saying they'd buy another IPhone the numbers indicate Android will soon overtake the IPhone in marketshare.
But they don't, only 77% say they intend to stick with the IPhone, indicating that while android should rise to 29% apple will drop from 28%.
Re:Statistics (Score:5, Funny)
It's the statistical equivalent of the question:
"Do you walk to school or bring your lunch"?
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I think your math is a bit off
20% of all smartphone users say they are going to buy Android, including current Android owners. Pretending for a second that people actually do what they say they'll do and that everybody upgrades their phones at the same time, Android would get 20% of the market.
We know that 77% of current iPhone users will buy another one but we don't know about how many the other 72% of smartphone users will buy iPhones. So all we know is that at least 21% (28% * 77%) of current smart
Re:Statistics (Score:4, Insightful)
The maths is all a bit off, unknown survey, with unknown breakdown, using unknown group, says 15 percent of cows jump over the moon (not maths that wrong). Seriously your playing with numbers from a survey with undeclared methods, you have got to be joking.
The reality is the majority of smart phone users will end up going with Android for two main reasons, lots of hardware choice (including a lot of cheaper hardware), service supplier choice and of course 'free' application choice. Google only ever produced it's own branded phone to kick up interest in Android, once that was done and it did work really well, they dropped it.
Even the android demo on PC under windows is popular, hopefully Google will produce a 'one click' download and install so that more people can more readily play with it (rather a smack in M$'s nose if people really like it and continue to use is as a app). The Apple market'droids' are working overtime pretending to be fanbois and it isn't really working and is really starting to become rather distasteful.
Apple has some really creative people, perhaps it is time to shift to a web focus and show M$ how a better company can creative a far more successful version of MSN under another name, hmm, how about, the 'core' ;).
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Could have been the same fanboi who modded down this post.
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How does one compare these statistics?
You see this so much in (what passes for) journalism.
It is so obvious to the reader. But the author, (even with the best of intentions, which in this case I doubt), is so focused on stringing two facts together totally forgets that one fact is Oranges and the other is Codfish.
I can't tell if its a bored reporter assigned to make sense of some dull numbers, or intentional juxtaposition of facts to weight one side of the equation.
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I can get crap like that for free. And some bloggers even do "strike-outs" in their corrections so you can see how they screwed up.
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Even funnier is that all the majors are using or will be using a unix-like OS on their phones. BBOS6 is qnx. MS might own the desktop, but they have a heck of fight in the server space and in the phone/tablet space. Balmer even made a DEC like "were not worried we have the business" statement not to long ago.
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My droid says google on the back, it did run a stock 2.1, and now runs CM6. How much more google branded could it really get?
It is google branded, maybe not google retailed but it does have google on the back.
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The Droid is a "Google Experience" phone which means it follows Google guidelines on UI design and a few other things. The Milestone (GSM Droid) is not "Google Experience" as it doesn't have the "with Google" branding but is pretty much the same as the Droid.
Things like the HTC Desire and HTC Hero (they have different names in the states) are not "Google Experience" phones.
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The Motorola droid. It says google right on the back. Bottom left, below camera.
http://a.fsdn.com/gc/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/motorola_droid_back_vertical-580x303.png [fsdn.com]
You don't put a case on a droid phone, they are made of metal and gorilla glass you heathen.