Free 'T-Mobile Starlink' for Six Months Announced During Super Bowl. Also Available to Verizon and AT&T Customers 175
Today T-Mobile announced what they're calling "the next big thing in wireless" — T-Mobile Starlink. But the real surprise is "The beta is now open for absolutely everyone — yes, even Verizon and AT&T customers — to register for free access until July."
And, as they explained to Americans watching the Super Bowl, "If you can see the sky you're connected." Now in public beta, this breakthrough service, developed in partnership with Starlink, uses straight-out-of-a-sci-fi-movie satellite and mobile communications technology to help keep people connected — even you, Verizon and AT&T customers — in the more than 500,000 square miles of the country unreached by any carrier's earth-bound cell towers. That's nearly the size of two Texases...! The beauty of the service is its simplicity: users don't need to do anything out of the ordinary. When a user's cell phone gets out of range of a cell tower, the phone automatically connects to the T-Mobile Starlink network. No need to manually connect. Messages are sent and received just as they are today on a traditional network, even group texts and reactions. And it works on most smartphones from the last four years. It's not limited to a few smartphones or operating systems...
The beta is free until July at which point T-Mobile Starlink will be included at no extra cost on Go5G Next (including variations like Go5G Next 55+), T-Mobile's best plan. Business customers will also get T-Mobile Starlink at no extra cost on Go5G Business Next, first responder agencies on T-Priority plans and other select premium rate plans. T-Mobile customers on any other plan can add the service for $15/month per line. Through February, T-Mobile customers who have registered for the beta can secure a $10/month per line Early Adopter Discount, 33% off the full price.
AT&T and Verizon customers hate dead zones, too
When your service is amazing and different, you want as many people to try it as possible. T-Mobile is giving AT&T and Verizon customers the opportunity to try out T-Mobile Starlink satellite service on their existing phones... During the beta period, Verizon and AT&T customers can experience T-Mobile Starlink text messaging for free, and once the service launches in July, it will be available for $20/month per line... More details and consumer registration can be found here.
A Vision for Universal Coverage
As T-Mobile and Starlink continue to work towards eliminating mobile deadzones, the companies welcome wireless providers from around the world to join their growing alliance, which aims to provide reciprocal roaming for all participating carriers. So far, KDDI (Japan), Telstra (Australia), Optus (Australia), One NZ (New Zealand), Salt (Switzerland), Entel (Chile & Peru), Rogers (Canada) and Kyivstar (Ukraine) are among the providers that have signed on to join the cause and launch satellite-to-mobile technology. Learn more about the alliance and how providers can join at direct.starlink.com.
And, as they explained to Americans watching the Super Bowl, "If you can see the sky you're connected." Now in public beta, this breakthrough service, developed in partnership with Starlink, uses straight-out-of-a-sci-fi-movie satellite and mobile communications technology to help keep people connected — even you, Verizon and AT&T customers — in the more than 500,000 square miles of the country unreached by any carrier's earth-bound cell towers. That's nearly the size of two Texases...! The beauty of the service is its simplicity: users don't need to do anything out of the ordinary. When a user's cell phone gets out of range of a cell tower, the phone automatically connects to the T-Mobile Starlink network. No need to manually connect. Messages are sent and received just as they are today on a traditional network, even group texts and reactions. And it works on most smartphones from the last four years. It's not limited to a few smartphones or operating systems...
The beta is free until July at which point T-Mobile Starlink will be included at no extra cost on Go5G Next (including variations like Go5G Next 55+), T-Mobile's best plan. Business customers will also get T-Mobile Starlink at no extra cost on Go5G Business Next, first responder agencies on T-Priority plans and other select premium rate plans. T-Mobile customers on any other plan can add the service for $15/month per line. Through February, T-Mobile customers who have registered for the beta can secure a $10/month per line Early Adopter Discount, 33% off the full price.
AT&T and Verizon customers hate dead zones, too
When your service is amazing and different, you want as many people to try it as possible. T-Mobile is giving AT&T and Verizon customers the opportunity to try out T-Mobile Starlink satellite service on their existing phones... During the beta period, Verizon and AT&T customers can experience T-Mobile Starlink text messaging for free, and once the service launches in July, it will be available for $20/month per line... More details and consumer registration can be found here.
A Vision for Universal Coverage
As T-Mobile and Starlink continue to work towards eliminating mobile deadzones, the companies welcome wireless providers from around the world to join their growing alliance, which aims to provide reciprocal roaming for all participating carriers. So far, KDDI (Japan), Telstra (Australia), Optus (Australia), One NZ (New Zealand), Salt (Switzerland), Entel (Chile & Peru), Rogers (Canada) and Kyivstar (Ukraine) are among the providers that have signed on to join the cause and launch satellite-to-mobile technology. Learn more about the alliance and how providers can join at direct.starlink.com.
Nice but no, thank you (Score:2)
"T-Mobile customers on any other plan can add the service for $15/month per line" - considering I pay 2€/month for my entire phone subscription, this doesn't look like something I would use.
What happened to the editing? (Score:2)
Anyone else feel like the latter part of this article reads like an ad? Just post a link to the T-Mobile site next time; otherwise, use some editorial discretion.
When's AST Spacemobile getting approved? (Score:2)
Setting aside the politics of it, my understanding is that they have a product ready to go, just awaiting FCC approval.
Vodafone have already completed test video calls using a regular smartphone in a remote part of Wakes. Verizon and AT&T are on board and will use their services once the FCC gives the green light.
And unlike Starlink, it would appear that AST Spacemobile was set up with the idea of being the cell tower in space, rather than a general purpose Internet broadband solution with a cell tower
Richmond Valentine? (Score:2)
Watch for some small church to wipe themselves out
Tracking (Score:2)
The technology is quite interesting.
It means Skynet can see every phone's location everywhere on Earth regardless of your location settings.
"No dead zones" and "planetary tracking grid" are different ways to look at the same set of facts.
And only on the latest devices (Score:2)
A Galaxy S23 (two years old) is SOL
Do not use NaziLink (Score:2)
Frequency range (Score:2)
Frequency range is 1.6 to 2.7 GHz. I'm assuming they're avoiding WiFi, DISH Network terrestrial, and SiriusXM.
How does it work? (Score:2)
Sales pitch to sell new phones. (Score:2)
Looks like a way to drive new phone sales for a bit, since phones have become a commodity item, with no real new features, most people see no reason to upgrade unless they are already overpaying for a 'free phone included with service plan' that offers a free trade in every year to keep the sales numbers going.
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Re: Musk profit dmg control (Score:3, Funny)
Wait till this guy finds out how the American space program got started in the late 40s...
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Wait till this guy finds out how the American space program got started in the late 40s...
That's pretty well known. Enough so that the writers of Back to the Future III [imdb.com] made a reference.
Young Doc : The Browns didn't come to Hill Valley until 1908. Then, they were the Von Brauns. My father changed our name during the first World War.
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The OPM lost my PII to China years ago. They sent me a letter letting me know how to sign up for a year of credit watch.
The Treasury was fully hacked by China last year.
No one gives a shit about either event. But the executive branch audits itself with outside contractors and it's the end of the fucking world.
Sure. Privacy is important. Right. Bullshit. The whining about these audits is just to distract from the hundreds of billions in theft and corruption already uncovered.
Oh hey, did you care when
Re:Musk profit dmg control (Score:4, Informative)
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So you think Elon is sitting at his laptop looking at your PII and giggling evilly as he writes a mean tweet about you based on your government data in order to control how you vote?
Wut?
Dude.
And before Elon no one would ever dare look at your data to control you? They collect countless petabytes of data on all of us but never looked at it before now?
Dude.
Just ... dude.
Re: Musk profit dmg control (Score:2)
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It's a valid question I haven't seen an answer to and until we do know, the question of proper data storage is a problem. But if it were being copied off site to the Evil Elon Data Center in Musk, Texas, I think it's fair to assume the opposition would have told us that and it'd be all over the news.
Instead we get FUD stories about how our medical data is going to be spilled all over the internet (as if it wasn't already) to cover up the hundreds of billions in stolen tax dollars which is the story we real
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The point is that with the firing of the inspectors general, nobody knows what the fuck they are doing. Not you, not Congress, not news outlets, and probably not even Trump.
It's very odd that you don't have a problem with this. They are brazenly ignoring the law in order to break other laws in brazen fashion, but because it's a guy you kind of agree with it's all fine?
Open your eyes please. None of this is fine, whoever it is pulling the trigger and whatever tribe they belong to. They are breaking laws,
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What are they doing with the data?
I'm certain they are carefully examining the data to identify thoughtful, reasonable strategies for increasing efficiency and saving money for the taxpayer.
HAHA, just kidding. Extortion. It's totally extortion. ("Nice SS payments you got there. It'd be a shame if something were to happen to it. Protect the flow of your SS payments for only $59.99 per month by clicking here now.")
Re: Musk profit dmg control (Score:2)
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You seriously think whatever it is you fear hasn't already been going on?
And you think I'm the dipshit on this thread.... okey dokey!
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If the Executive Branch is performing an audit on itself (and let's pretend for a second that they have the legal authority to do this [Narrator: "They Don't..."]) then why did Elon take in programmers and not forensic accountants ?
And before you once again prove that your user name is a lie, I'll give you a hint, "The primary oversight and auditing power o
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StarLink technology is simply yet another technological system advancement. We already put immense trust in the system by getting a cell phone in the first place, using a credit card, streaming a movie, or even simply by walking down a city street.
The good news is that there's a proven bulwark against systemic abuse: the US Constitution's individual rights. These limit government ability to censor speech, ensure blind justice, elevate judging by merit over judging by identity, protect property rights, and l
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a socialist hero these days, and socialism opposes these same individual rights
You must be stupid enough to have voted for Trump, the no. 1 corrupt man in the USA..
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and your lefty fear rhetoric isn't being brought by anyone....
your supporting the theft, corruption and money laundering of the left.....
Please take some time to learn about:
- The difference between "bought" and "brought".
- The difference between "your" and "you're".
- Capital letters.
They're a basic concepts taught to kids early in life. Maybe try finishing the first grade.
Re:Musk didn't take anything (Score:5, Insightful)
Musk is well vetted
Ah, yes. That was during his extensive questioning in the Senate for them to vote on his confirmation for his cabinet-level position. This clearly must have happened since the Constitution, Article II requires "Advice and Consent of the Senate" for the President to appoint "Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments." So, since Musk is acting at the level of a cabinet member (frankly, I would say he's acting at the level of a President if it were not for the fact that he's exceeding the authority of a President) and Congress has not, by law, vested the appointment of anyone into any similar position in the President alone, there must have been a confirmation hearing, right?
Oh, there wasn't?
Well, then he must have been vetted when he got his security clearance then...
Oh, government spokespeople have so far been unable to confirm that he has a security clearance or has had a background check.
Well, at least he was vetted by immigration when he came to the United States...
Oh, he's an illegal alien according to his own brother who readily admitted to being an illegal alien himself...
Um, remind me how he was vetted then?
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Um, remind me how he was vetted then?
He has money. That is enough.
Re:Musk didn't take anything (Score:5, Informative)
He has top security clearance. That requires a real vetting process, as opposed to congresses
Makes no difference what security clearance Musk has. The president can't delegate power he doesn't have in the first place.
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When a single officer (the President) can have so much apparently unlimited power it means the American justice system is systematically broken.
Re: Musk didn't take anything (Score:2)
The requirements to get his level of clearance are don't lie to the interviewer.
Which says nothing about being qualified to refill printer paper, or access a U.S. treasury mainframe.
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He has top security clearance
Do you have this from some source, or are you just assuming? When did he receive the clearance and who vetted him, or was it just granted by Presidential fiat? Also, how did he possibly pass the drug test?
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He has top security clearance. That requires a real vetting process
Well, that's one way to get it. Another is for the president to direct that you be given a clearance. Classification and clearance is entirely at the discretion of the Commander in Chief.
But in any case that's irrelevant. The reason cabinet positions have to be approved by the Senate is because that's a crucial part of our constitutional checks and balances. You know, the ones that keep the president from being an elected dictator, able to appoint whoever he wants to sensitive posts, unlike what he can
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So your solution is that every single thing the Congress votes on should go to 330 million people, including the thousand-page spending bills and nuanced foreign trade agreements and treaties? Don't you find it interesting that there are exactly zero countries run this way? But somehow you see that as some workable solution as opposed to not sending fucking idiots armed with rubber stamps to Congress?
Maybe don't vote for people that are better at sniping each other in cable news segments, and instead vote
Re:Musk didn't take anything (Score:5, Insightful)
Well vetted? He had to be given security clearance because he couldn't get through the normal process of acquiring one.
And he's letting unknown people access the information - while Musk likely won't be going through the data himself, he's basically letting anyone he knows run through that information, regardless of qualifications. If you have access to personal information on every American, what would you do with it? Basically the same thing.
As for people who have received payment - that includes a large number of people including those who have received a refund from the IRS, farmers who provided food for programs like USAID, and other things. Likely also included are people who bought an EV as well. I think at this point, if the government has paid you any money, you'd be in there.
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Musk has not successfully completed a BI
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Elmo is a much bigger threat to U.S. democracy than China. China just wants our money, Musk and his muppet want to turn the U.S. into a fascist state. They have already got a head start with the U.S. Supreme Court and the 5th Circuit Court.
Re: Musk didn't take anything (Score:2)
Oh my god that's as cringe as saying Trump doesn't need any more money.
I'm not sure where you're going with the receiving payments from US Treasury thing, but Trump himself had checks sent out to most of the country in his first term.
You're completely unaware how much of the country makes payments _to_ the Treasury aren't you. It rhymes with schmaxes.
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You're completely unaware how much of the country makes payments _to_ the Treasury aren't you. It rhymes with schmaxes.
And everyone who overpays and gets a refund at the end of the year gets a payment from the treasury. That's not a small number.
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In other words, anyone that received money for a non-MAGA purpose like an EV or USAID is considered worth their attention.
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How come you right wingnuts are so obsessed with deviant sex? Is there something you are not telling us?
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Every accusation is an admission.
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so - attacking musk, not all the corruption and money laundering he and his team have found?
Can you give an example of where they've found any significant corruption and money laundering? It's weird, right-wing types are always saying this kind of stuff, but they never seem to be able to provide examples. It's like the so called "Twitter Files" where they say "look at all that left-wing censorship" and we say where? Then they say: "Just read it, you'll see it", so you read it and can't find anything, so you ask again and they still can't actually get together any coherent explanation of where the
Re:Musk profit dmg control (Score:5, Informative)
Ok. So I followed your link and I read it and there's not a single example of the "corruption and money laundering" mentioned in the GP post. There's a bunch of other stuff. Some of which I recognize as claims that have already been debunked, but none of them are examples of either money laundering, or corruption. Please either find a real example or just kindly stop being an idiot.
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so - attacking musk, not all the corruption and money laundering he and his team have found?
Why would you expect anyone to care about the musings of an established liar and crackpot? There is no credible publicly available data on the findings available to anyone. If there were genuine concern about government corruption and spending Trump could work to commission a credible investigation or maybe stop firing career IGs.
how is paying for transgender surgeries overseas helping america?
how is building a Sesame Street in iraq helping america?
USAID is funded to the tune of tens of billions of dollars has substantially increased US influence and access to markets while saving tens of millions of lives. Musk et el are
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If something is free then you are the product.
Or they're just gauging market demand to see what they can get away with charging for it. Disney+ used to do free trials, too.
Re: Musk profit dmg control (Score:2)
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amen
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To that person, Donald Trump may very well be a Muslim from Kenya, and that's a fact as far as they're concerned.
It's certainly as factual as the birther bullshit Donald Trump propagated about a certain other former President.
Re: Musk can fuck himself... (Score:2)
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Probably best we stop talking about in case that constitutes a measurement in Copenhagen rules.
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Cisgender has a technical meaning... and by all accounts, Musk is cisgender, whether he likes it or not. Maybe even hypercisgender due to his desire to overcompensate, lest anyone be confused.
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Oof, I guess we know who the real monster is.
Elon Musk is the real monster. For hating his child, because they are doing what they want in life.
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Not at all false, it's an alternative fact.
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Has he provided his birth certificate?
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And you're going to VOLUNTEER to give him your money?
I'm certainly not going to pay for Starlink once it becomes some sort of paid add-on (or more likely, bundled with a higher tier mobile plan).
Owning an EV though, I can't entirely escape tossing a few bucks once in awhile towards ol' Leon. I kind of rationalize it with the understanding that if I was driving an ICE car, I'd be regularly supporting even worse people in the oil industry, and doing more damage to the environment in the process. At least with my EV, the vast majority of charging is done at ho
Re:Starlink? No thanks. (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, the orange man is, in fact, bad. The unprecedented level of corruption, threatening to murder the allies of the US unless they hand over their sovereign territory, stating plans to commit war crimes... How about releasing 5000 Taliban from prison (after US soldiers died to capture them) and basically agreeing to hand the country over to them. Or abandoning various US allies in war zones. Or the felonies he's actually been convicted of. Or how about intentionally peeping on naked 14 to 19 year old girls, which he not only admitted to, but bragged about. Or so, so, so many other things. Yes, orange man is indeed bad.
Elon Musk with his weird breeder fetish and infidelity, his absentee parenting, his disowning of his own child, his misogyny, sexual harassment and racism. His fetish for firing people, his constant lying, his trolling and generally abusive behavior, his declaration that his child is dead just because they're trans, his blatant criminality. Yes, Musk bad too.
Based on their support for these people and policies that basically aim to destroy the country. Yeah, I think significant numbers of Republicans are bad too. Others are just seriously misguided.
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Does it hurt, being that stupid? Or is the stupidity like a shield, protecting you from the consequences?
Re: Starlink? No thanks. (Score:2)
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Re:Starlink? No thanks. (Score:4, Insightful)
No, we just voted the tyrannical little statists out of office
Are you completely blind to irony, or just completely incapable of critical analysis? There is a President and his cronies currently trying to usurp all State, Congressional, and Judicial power in the single person of the President as head of the Federal government and you're calling the former administration "tyrannical statists"? Seriously? How is it even possible for someone to think that way? Did you miss Trump trying to undo a constitutional edict through an executive order? Or him shuttering government departments created by Congressional order? Or Musk declaring that the judges who found some of these actions illegal should be impeached?
Re:Starlink? No thanks. (Score:5, Insightful)
No, we just voted the tyrannical little statists out of office. And the people you're now laughably calling Fascists are busy exposing and tearing down the very tools that an actual Fascist government would (and did) use.
Trump and Musk both want to cancel the licenses of broadcast networks because they don't agree with their content.
Trump and Musk are systematically attempting to subvert the constitution by assuming article I powers they know full well they don't have.
Trump incited an insurrection against the United States, pardoned insurrectionists who attacked the nations capitol and injured 140 police officers. Then he turned around and started firing law enforcement people who dared to investigate his insurrectionists.
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Trump also won the election so buckle up! Things are going back to normal, and then some.
You mean back to the old America's racist and misogynistic roots?
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Oh please. It's not working anymore. Your side's been neutered exactly because of this kind of childish gaslighting.
Oh, please. Your side won only because of bad choices made by a Fed chair who was originally installed by your side that just happened to not occur until Biden's watch. Most people on both sides of the aisle are horrified by what's happening right now [techdirt.com], which turns out to be pretty much exactly what the left warned them would happen.
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No, most people aren't. Maybe in your bubble that's true, but most normal people are horrified at all the wasteful and frankly STUPID spending that's been going on.
Dude, I just linked you to a poll that disagrees with your claim, showing that at least 54% and possibly up to 73% of Americans think we're in a constitutional crisis right now. If you think we're not, then it sounds very much like I'm not the one in the bubble.
Couple that with crazy immigration and poor handling of recent disasters and THATS why Trump won.
Meh. Democrats have been pushing for immigration form pretty much continuously, and being blocked by Republicans. The only reason we have so much illegal immigration is because of that obstruction. So blaming Democrats for "crazy immigration" is
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How about the laundry list rattled off by DOGE the other day with trans surgeries in Guatamala and DEI training in Usbekastan, or Somalia non-binary media training... All championed by idiots with no desire to not waste our money. What counts as crazy? Did you see the trans festival Biden had at the white house where the new trans women were walking around topless showing off their new assets?
you haven't heard of these stupid things?
No one has heard of them, because you and the fascists lie about them. [deccanherald.com] Here's an idea, stop deceiving and knowingly spreading propaganda from lying partisan idiots, toolbag. Musk is just as much a pathological liar as his boy toy trump. Maybe trump should start by looking at himself and his cronies first for wasteful and fraudulent spending. [americanprogress.org]
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Trump also won the election so buckle up!
I have no idea what winning an election has to do with the topic at hand. Is the implication winning an election grants one the right to use the constitution as toilet paper?
Things are going back to normal, and then some.
When was this behavior ever normal?
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Remember Obama said "elections have consequences" right before ramming the Affordable Care Act down everyone's throats? It happened exactly right then.
The ACA is an act of congress not executive fiat. Congress has article 1 authority to make law and they used it. The president does not. You may disagree with the law yet congress was nonetheless operating under its constitutional authority.
The ACA was voted on by both houses of congress:
https://clerk.house.gov/evs/20... [house.gov]
https://www.senate.gov/legisla... [senate.gov]
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Rammed through...
It was a mostly partisan bill. If you have the majority partisan bills are not illegal.
Guess we'll see how this shakes out. Personally I'm really happy someone with some clout is sniffing around this stuff.
Would be cautious disregarding process so long as your personal interests are advanced. Governance isn't a board game where the maximum consequences of deciding to cheat because your prospects of winning look bleak or you don't feel like putting in the effort is annoyed friends who don't want to play with you anymore.
Some day someone you don't like is going to get power. When that day comes would you want them to have
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Trump has the power to audit things using people he assigns. I have heard people discussing the legality of this and so far it seems above board. People are moaning it's illegal, but they are doing just that - moaning. If it's really illegal we'll see..
Attempting to destroy a congressionally mandated agency is not an "audit". With respect to data exfiltration there are already court orders to stop big balls et el (who by the way was fired previously for leaking information to competitors) from stealing our data and court cases are piling up fast.
https://storage.courtlistener.... [courtlistener.com]
https://storage.courtlistener.... [courtlistener.com]
https://www.justsecurity.org/w... [justsecurity.org]
I'm ok using a cheat code at this point, things got so bad. But I don't really believe it's illegal.
What is the legal authority for a president to assume article 1 powers?
I'm HAPPY this audit is happening and I'm HAPPY with the results. I'll be HAPPIER when I see the people who spent this money so stupidly get arrested.
I was HAPPY when I learned guys being pai
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----------------- y n Democratic 219 39 Republican 1 176
Rammed through...
LOL. Trump couldn't muster enough votes to pass any of what he's doing. He doesn't even have enough support to "ram" the changes to the law that he wants, so he's just breaking the law left and right.
Personally I'm really happy someone with some clout is sniffing around this stuff.
"Clout"? That's exactly what Trump doesn't have. Lacking any real authority, he's just making illegal orders and hoping the courts can't keep up, though they have shut down the worst of it already.
But what would you expect of the Felon in Chief other than an endless stream of crimes?
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Trump also won the election so buckle up! Things are going back to normal, and then some.
"Normal". I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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It is 100% "orange man bad" and "musk is a nazi". I can't even tell where they get the,
The man literally did a Sieg Heil salute on live TV. It was as plain and obvious as two and two are four. Some people, however, have convinced themselves that they saw something else, maybe a five, possibly a three.
Pity you probably won't understand the reference.
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You are hopeless. Hitler didn't clutch his heart and exclaim he was giving it to the crowd figuratively in a gesture of thanks. But, keep trotting that out there. It makes your side look dumber and more unhinged. It's SO nice to not be ruled by people with your mindset anymore. What an ABSOLUTE relief.
Just to clarify the timeline of events. Musk first completed two vigorous roman salutes starting not from his heart but the left side of his chest. Then after completing them he placed his hand on his heart and said my heart goes out to you.
There was certainly no ambiguity in terms of what actual Neo-Nazi's think Musk did. The problem here is it is difficult to disambiguate intentions from this single data point. If you had wanted to pop a roman salute and make everyone know it there isn't much you coul
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oh really? [reddit.com]
But please go on about how different the gestures were.
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Stealing from the government is absolutely endemic and everyone knows it, but the vast majority of us aren't in any position to do anything about it.
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Ah yes, do your own research.
You've already done the research. Why don't you give us a summary and your citations?
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I just wonder what speed would be like
None.
It doesn't support data. Yet (supposedly).
and just how much out in the open you have to be to use this.
The band being used is 1900Mhz. You need a pretty clear LOS, presumably, given what must be a vanishingly small SNR at the Sat side, even with Starlink's mega-gain antennas- since 40 feet into a forest reduces 1900Mhz by about 20dB, and I have a lot of trouble believing they have that kind of link budget.
They have plans to support data and calls at some point. I have a bit of trouble believing that they'll be able to get enough bidirectional bandwidth at 190
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The technology being described here uses 1.6 to 2.7 GHz.
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But yes- it works for all LTE bands, since it's just literally a moving LTE tower in space.
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When I was first told about it by a friend, I asserted it was almost certainly SMS only, he too was shocked. Took a solid 15 minutes of dredging through marketing literature to find that it was.
They do supposedly have a plan for enabling enough bandwidth for calls at some point, so it's very much worth keeping an eye on, and of course- emergency SMS coverage is absolutely a helpful feature to people who don't already have that functionality via GlobalSta
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There are definitely some real data rate concerns here though. In the Wilderness at least, you should be ok in terms of communication with the satellite overhead, but if usage of the Starlink network goes way up, what's the data rate like between satellites? Anyone know? Could we run into a situation where, even in remote areas, communications can't get through because satellite to satellite communications are overloaded? In theory, this will use local cell towers where available and only use satellite when
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The idea is that there won't be many users in the wilderness outside of regular cell service range, and those users will generally be spread out. If there does happen to be regular large groups in areas not served by existing cell towers then that's a signal that they should build cell towers to cover those areas.
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That's basically what I said for wilderness usage. As for house users in Cellular dead zones, with no wired Internet connection, the area of a Starlink beam is about 177 square miles, or 113,000 acres. Even if every home is on a 300 acre farm that would be about 377 homes. If they have the average family size, that's 1,187 people, at least 1000 of which will be interested in using the data connection (someone else mentioned that this may be voice only, although data may come later, so this may be irrelevant
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I discussed this in another reply, but a Starlink beam covers about 113,000 acres. Anywhere people live and don't have giant ranches (in which case they're rich enough to just have Starlink terminals already) or live in utter isolation (once again, quite probably rich but, if not, still probably have satellite Internet), there are probably still around 1000+ people in the beam area and they will get terrible diluted service. As for the handful of exceptions in extremely isolated situations, by their very na
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I was always happy I could potentially use my iPhone in the wilderness to send emergency SOS messages via satellite. It made me feel a lot more comfortable going on remote hikes.
Yes, somewhere in the woods there's a bear thinking "I better not maul this guy, his cellphone now has access to Starlink!"
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I'm pretty excited about using this for backpacking. My wife wants me to get one of those satellite messaging/locator devices, but the cost (and monthly subscription) always seemed out-of-proportion with the risk I was taking backpacking with a partner in well-trafficked places. Moving the capability to a device I'm already carrying and charging some small amount that I can turn on-and-off would be a big win for backpackers.
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Calling everybody you don't like a Nazi just makes you look retarded.
If your circle of friends gives you approval for this behavior then you're hanging out with retards.
Try harder - actual arguments will enhance your reputation.
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I mean if you salute like a nazi and then praise far right German political parties https://www.reuters.com/world/... [reuters.com] then yes you just might be a nazi.
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Calling everybody you don't like a Nazi just makes you look retarded.
If your circle of friends gives you approval for this behavior then you're hanging out with retards.
Try harder - actual arguments will enhance your reputation.
I personally believe given the totality of Musk's behavior I'm aware of not just popping off two vigorous roman salutes in succession.. the AfD speech asserting multiculturalism "dilutes" everything, agreeing with twitter posts like "Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them." hiring back an employee who last year posts shit like "Normalize Indian hate" and "Just for the record, I was racist before it wa
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They are the shittiest Telco I have dealt with.
And the support engineers at the call center in the Philippines are worthless as tits on a bull.
Which is sad, because in their heyday, they were amongst the best.
In the 3G era, my T-Mobile phone had consistently faster downloads than my Verizon friends. The Philippine call center used to be for low-volume time (2AM on Saturday, Thanksgiving, etc.), with US-based, quality tier-1 support during most normal call times. They were the first to launch an Android phone, the first to sell phones directly and split out the subsidies, the last to lock the bootloaders of carrier-sold phones, the last to implemen
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You want ME to grow up? I'm not the one trotting out Hitler Hitler Hitler every 10 seconds. You sound like a lunatic and EVERYONE is allowed to see and notice it now. Crazy town ended. It's over. Nobody believes you anymore except for other wackos. Normal people see the $hit being uncovered by DOGE and THEY APPROVE of the work being done. YOUR SIDE IS WRONG (and crazy).
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You want ME to grow up? I'm not the one trotting out Hitler Hitler Hitler every 10 seconds. You sound like a lunatic and EVERYONE is allowed to see and notice it now. Crazy town ended. It's over. Nobody believes you anymore except for other wackos. Normal people see the $hit being uncovered by DOGE and THEY APPROVE of the work being done. YOUR SIDE IS WRONG (and crazy).
I'm going to ignore the obvious implication that people who disapprove of what they are doing are "not normal" or "crazy", because that sort of abusive name calling does not elevate the level of discourse, and responding to it doubly so. Instead, I'll merely question the rest of that sentence and ignore the ad hominem.
Have they uncovered any actual corruption, or just departments choosing to spend money on things that they don't like? Because those are not the same thing, you know. Everything I've seen s