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Mobile Phone, PC Shipments To Fall Again in 2023, Gartner Says (reuters.com) 25

Posted by msmash from the no-relief-in-sight dept.
Shipments of personal computers and mobile phones are expected to fall for the second straight year in 2023, with phone shipments slumping to a decade low, IT research firm Gartner said on Tuesday. From a report: Mobile phone shipments are projected to fall 4% to 1.34 billion units in 2023, down from 1.40 billion units in 2022, Gartner said. They totaled 1.43 billion in 2021. That was close to the 2009 shipments level when Blackberry and Nokia phones were the market leaders as Apple tried to dent their dominance.

The mobile phone market peaked in 2015 when shipments touched 1.9 billion units. The pandemic led to a fundamental change where people working from home didn't feel the need to change phones frequently, Ranjit Atwal, research director at Gartner, said in an interview.
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Mobile Phone, PC Shipments To Fall Again in 2023, Gartner Says

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  • What did these guys predict about 2021 and 2022? Just curious.

    • All I know is I am stocking up on laptops because, sure as I am reading /. instead of working, there is about to be a run on laptops.

    • Just ignore Gartner Group. If they're right it's only by chance and not because they did the hard work of analysis. Gartner is just a grift looking for credulous customers, like any other palm reader.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Bert64 ( 520050 )

      Well a few years back they predicted that the market would be dominated by windows mobile, so...

  • people cant afford it (Score:4, Insightful)

    by redback ( 15527 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @04:03PM (#63254849)

    Two things at play here.

    1. Inflation is fucked and people cant afford shit. Nobody is upgrading their smart phone when they can't afford eggs.

    2. A lot of companies bought new laptops etc during covid for WFH. That gave a big spike in sales, but it essentially stole those sales from future years.

    • GPUs being either unobtanium or require a new mortgage for the home to finance them being another one.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
        Or an upgrade to the electrical service, those lates gpus are shore power hungry, an remember for allmost evry watt they consume you will need, or wery much appreciate an extra watt of air conditioneing during summer

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by hazem ( 472289 )

      3. so many tech companies are doing 10%+ layoffs that the market is about to be flooded with great refurbished business-class machines and phones

  • People are fed up of forced upgrades (Score:3)

    by xack ( 5304745 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @04:09PM (#63254867)
    All the browser makers and Cloudflare conspired to kill Windows 7 and XP, forcing plenty of good PCs to a grave. Sandy Bridge cpus would be still competitive in modern gaming if AVX2 wasn't required and gpu makers who are high off of crypto money are trying to force $1000+ upgrades by making new games require Directx 12.2. We are going to see massive protests when Windows 10 is obsoleted and at the same time Apple kills Intel mac support. There will be plenty of planet choking e-waste to deal with. People are still ill from disposing of old CRT monitors. Also the 3G shutdown is killing millions of feature phones.
  • I bet all the top phone makers are trying to think of new ways to force obsolescence. I think we're at a point where there's little that can be done regarding display or processor that any normal user will notice. I don't think we're going to see any significant camera updates for a few generations.

    ...I guess Apple can finally give us USB-C charging, but that's a one-time boost...maybe try to force folding phones on us the way the TV manufacturers tried to make 3D TV a thing 10 years ago.

    A market can

    • You joke but the next big phone/ computer combo is either a holographic display to alter actual displays use(scifi not real holographic)

      Or someone is finally going to merge laptops and phones properly. We mostly have the required cpus next up is combining them.

      • > We mostly have the required cpus

        Not really. An 8-core little.big ARM running at 2.2GHz/2.8GHz isn't even CLOSE to being in the same league as a 4-core 3+GHz AMD64. And if it were, your phone would burn the skin off your fingertips a few minutes before it fried itself.

        If you think computers are "fast enough", try running Windows with two or three 3840x2160 monitors, 32 gigabytes, and a 4TB SSD... then launch the build for AOSP Android 13, and try to do anything else on it for the next 6-10 hours.

        • I think the point was most people do not require a Windows machine running multiple 4K display while compiling Android. The average person wants to watch their YouTube and surf the web.

        • > We mostly have the required cpus

          Not really. An 8-core little.big ARM running at 2.2GHz/2.8GHz isn't even CLOSE to being in the same league as a 4-core 3+GHz AMD64...try running Windows with two or three 3840x2160 monitors, 32 gigabytes, and a 4TB SSD... then launch the build for AOSP Android 13, and try to do anything else on it for the next 6-10 hours.

          I don't think the GP was talking about compiling or multimonitor; I agree with you there, and it's a reasonable assumption that the GP does as well...but it's also fair to state that your example is borderline disingenuous.

          It's a bit difficult to do a direct comparison, but it's pretty safe to say that Google's Tensor G2, Apple's A15 Bionic, and Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 are all at least comparable to the Intel Celeron N4000 series that powers a lot of low end and midrange Chromebooks. Even midrange pho

  • People are skipping Win11 so sales will really drop for a while
  • As long as my iPhone XR keeps working, charging, getting upgraded, I see no point in upgrading or impressing someone !!! It still works !!!!

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