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Amazon Brings Eero Mesh Wi-Fi To ISPs (zdnet.com) 28

Amazon's Eero mesh networking company is introducing Eero for Service Providers. "This is an all-new hardware and software offering designed to help internet service providers (ISPs) meet customers' increasing demands for exceptional home Wi-Fi," writes Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols via ZDNet. "This is not just a bundling of a selection of Eero Wi-Fi mesh routers with your existing internet service. It also includes remote network management for your ISP and security and privacy management tools for you." From the report: The bundle starts, of course, with the routers. Besides offering Eero's existing whole-home mesh Wi-Fi systems to customers, ISPs will also get access to the all-new Eero 6 series. These come with Wi-Fi 6. This new Wi-Fi technology supports faster speeds and more simultaneously connected devices. Eero claims that this is its fastest Wi-Fi network yet. There are two models: Eero Pro 6 and Eero 6. These new devices also come with a built-in Zigbee smart home hub. This IEEE 802.15.4 personal-area network standard Internet of Things (IoT) hub lets you manage compatible IoT devices on your networks. This way you don't need a separate Zigbee hub.

For ISPs, Eero Insight builds on Eero's existing Remote Network Management software. This combines monitoring user history to predict and address customer problems before they change from annoyances to real problems. It also includes network monitoring tools such as a network topology viewer, historical speed tests and bandwidth usage, RF diagnostics, alerts, audit logs, outage detection, fleet analysis, and network health. For users, all this should mean a more reliable internet connection and that's always good news.

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Amazon Brings Eero Mesh Wi-Fi To ISPs

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  • no thanks (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheMeuge ( 645043 ) on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @08:07PM (#60579566)

    The best way to do home wifi is to get as far away from anything your ISP offers as possible. I've now converted half a dozen friends and colleagues to pfsense/ubiquiti unifi combination.

    • some ISP force you to rent there gateway like
      ATT
      Comcast in some areas
      https://www.xfinity.com/suppor... [xfinity.com]
      Others

    • by bagofbeans ( 567926 ) on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @08:14PM (#60579576)

      For ISPs, Eero Insight builds on Eero's existing Remote Network Management software. This combines monitoring user history to predict and address customer problems before they change from annoyances to real problems. It also includes network monitoring tools such as a network topology viewer, historical speed tests and bandwidth usage, RF diagnostics, alerts, audit logs, outage detection, fleet analysis, and network health. For users, all this should mean a more reliable internet connection and that's always good news.

      ISP on my side of the network? Wow, that's great for privacy and security!

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Narcocide ( 102829 )

      Yea, my thoughts exactly. What they've invented is mesh networking with an insecurable corporate back-door. No thanks.

      • Actually, Chinese 5G has mesh networking sorted, including point to point. The flaw in their system is that NSA or whoever can't tap the hub, or best case, misses a bit.So Huawei gets banned for being efficient. One supposes there could be a backdoor to transmit to the hub anyway, that would work in China, but not USA because each telco would want money, and god help those on the edge of two or more carriers. A second possible reason is that rainclouds may block overhead satellite ELINT. Efficiency is measu
    • And this one is a double whammy, since you're both picking up the ISP's device as well as an Amazon-owned one.

      I bought a Nest Thermostat back before Google bought them out, and it went from being a plucky upstart with a rapidly advancing, frequently updated device to a stagnating product line that showed no meaningful movement for the better part of the next several years. Really, the biggest change since the buyout was when everyone got an email last year or so telling them that their Nest accounts would b

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      Which ones do you recommend for non technical users then?

  • by bobstreo ( 1320787 ) on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @08:30PM (#60579610)

    I bought my own and in less than a year, it paid for itself. It took another 3 years before they started giving out "free modems" which were cheap and apparently die pretty often.

    The only downside was that they changed the password and "managed it" for me.

  • WTF is that? Does it cook you dinner and walk your dog? Or is it just regular WiFi with a ton of marketing BS added?

    • by xlsior ( 524145 )

      WTF is that? Does it cook you dinner and walk your dog? Or is it just regular WiFi with a ton of marketing BS added?

      Even a great router gives crappy wifi when it has to compete with 30 other accesspoints for channels and bandwidth. The more people use mesh networking, the worse it'll get for everyone else.

      • Lucky me, I'm buying my house, and friends and I wired it for internet years ago, even the patio - which came in handy when I turned most of the patio into an enclosed games room.

        Wifi? Yeah, I have it, so my gaming buddies can connect their laptops every Friday night. Me? Ethernet all the way, thanks. Mobile uses data plan, doesn't use wifi either.

        I'm sure that for many others wifi is all they can have, so... best wishes for them.

      • A good mesh system can make things better for everyone. If you have a mesh system with an access point in short range and they use wired backhaul to reach the internet, then you end up using up way less of the EM spectrum. Devices can send data with a much lower power signal and still get the message across because they are close to the access point. As we switch to more advanced WiFi technologies, the interference will actually get smaller. With 5 GHz you get 23 non-overlapping channels. And with the shor

        • I fully agree that "a good mesh system can make things better for everyone", but the vast majority of consumer mesh systems are bad.

          Most home WiFi mesh routers fail to support most of the "23 non-overlapping channels", and many amp up the radios for "greatest performance". All this leads to heavily saturated airwaves, which in turn leads to more people buying lousy products.

          The most popular Eeros models are limited in this way.

  • It cant be any different than '802.11' if its compatible with 802.11. Cant wait for it to become the next Ring Doorbell thing getting hacked and it 'accidentally' forwarding all your home traffic to amazon servers. and then all your bank info to amazon so they can tell you how to better spend your money.

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