New iPhones Launching on October 13

Apple just sent out invites for its upcoming hardware event, all but confirming the arrival of the next iPhone. From a report: The event is scheduled nearly a month to the day after the its last big event, which gave us the Apple Watch Series 6 and two new iPads. A new iPhone was conspicuously absent from the proceedings -- not an entirely unexpected turn of events, of course. CEO Tim Cook confirmed earlier this year that there would be a delay the arrival of the company's new flagship, owing to COVID-19 hardware supply chain issues. The iPhone 12 is set to finally deliver 5G connectivity to Apple's product line, coupled with a new design, chip and a push to OLED for all entries in the line.

5G needed more time

[nospam007]

Without any headphone jack, the viruses had no way out of the phone, they rerouted it to the microphone.

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[AmiMoJo]

I think Sony are the only ones fitting a headphone jack on a flagship now. Sony of all people.

New?

[aglider]

A really new iPhone will need Mr. Jobs to get out of his grave.

Anything else will just be a faster larger phone with some software feature not found in previous devices. But that could be out there anyway.

Re:New?

[WankerWeasel]

Jobs never created anything new. It's not about new and never has been. It's about the best iteration. The iPod wasn't the first MP3 player. The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone. The iPad wasn't the first tablet. The Apple Watch wasn't the first smart watch. Google wasn't the first search engine. Ford wasn't the first car manufacturer. Tesla wasn't the first electric car. It's never been about creating something totally new that has set these all apart from the rest.

Re:New?

[DarkOx]

What Jobs did generally is:
Recognize a good idea in technology, with an implementation that currently limited its appeal to consumers. Step two which he was also generally pretty good at is gathering the right the right people together to fix those problems and correctly identifying the best solutions.

So while he maybe did not advance the state of the art much, what he did what turn a lot of toys for geeks and narrow focused tools into things just about everyone felt they suddenly could not live without. I am not some Job's cultist by any means but I do recognize his talent was more than just marketing fluff

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[WankerWeasel]

I certainly agree there. Where Apple has seen great success is with the general consumer. They make up the 95% of the market, which means you have the greatest pool of potential customers to sell to. Even if you sell a computer for $50,000, it's hard to make much profit when it's only of interest to 1% of the entire computer buyer market. When you have a device like the iPhone, iPad, iPod, etc, you have a HUGE group of potential customers when it appeals to 95% of them. As you said, Jobs and Apple have done

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[onyxruby]

I agree that there was more than just marketing genius to his work. I'd say his real expertise was to simplify technology so that it could be readily used by the masses. He then made it stylish enough that the masses would want to use it.

Form and function have always been tradeoffs that Apple happily made to gain simple and style. Apple has rarely been the rational choice.

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[m0gely]

He steered the teams of people who are bright and talented and focused on what he (arguably) thought was the best device. In short, he surrounded himself with people who could make his vision happen and get that to the mass market. So I'm not sure what discounting him accomplishes. If you can do better, by all means...

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[WankerWeasel]

I'm not at all discounting what he did. I'm a big Apple fan and have been for over 30 years. What I was saying simply was that Apple has rarely created anything completely new, but rather brought to market iterations of existing technology that have been greatly suited for the mass market. It's incredibly rare that any company creates something completely new within the tech industry.

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[AmiMoJo]

They could bring back the fingerprint sensor now that face recognition is buggered.

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[ACForever]

Just like Google did with the Pixel 5. Genius move by Google

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[Anubis IV]

Here's hoping they bring it back like they are with the upcoming iPad Air.

I wish it was just grocery trips where it was a problem, but it isn't. I probably have to type in my (very long) password dozens of times a week, primarily because of a 4-hour session each week where I get a load of texts (from people providing me with info, because I'm on-duty) while being masked (because I'm unavoidably in close proximity to another person at a job that is deemed "essential"). I know it's the most first-world of pro

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[rthille]

It's possible to register 2 faces to FaceID. Have you tried registering your masked face in addition to your "regular" face?

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[Anubis IV]

My wife's face is registered as "my" second face, but that's a good suggestion for a lot of others, so I'm glad you posted it.

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[AmiMoJo]

I have. It didn't work. In fact even without a mask it doesn't seem very reliable, about 30% of the time it needs the passcode.

The thing about new iPhones is that they are a non-event. If you like iPhones you take what Apple gives you, if you don't then you don't care. It's not like when a new Android phone comes out and expands your available choices.

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[ApproachingLinux]

For me, when FaceID fails and asks for a passcode, just trying again by swiping up again or double clicking again works.

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[AmiMoJo]

I prefer a fingerprint sensor. No need for a notch or a big bezel to accommodate the IR illumination and second camera, works with a mask and is >99% reliable. It's faster too, you can be unlocking the phone as you pick it up before it can even see your face.

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[Anubis IV]

Anything else will just be a faster larger phone

Current rumors suggest the reintroduction of a smaller, full-featured form factor for this generation (i.e. iPhone 12 Mini), in addition to the other two sizes they've already had (i.e. iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Max).

I'd certainly welcome such a change. I went from an iPhone 5s to the iPhone 11, and while I love its faster speeds, better battery life, higher fidelity screen, FaceID, and any number of other features, there's rarely a day that goes by that I don't find its larger size to be incredibly annoying.

Cool

[Kohath]

I look forward to Apple-haters complaining and to a lot of Internet misinformation about 5G.
- We can hear from the environmental crowd that buying a new phone is a sin against the Earth.
- The repair-complainers will be aggrieved that they can't take it apart with one hand and replace RAM DIMMs or the battery.
- It won't support my antique headphones!
- It has the wrong connectors!
- They didn't include an HDMI adapter in the box!
- Some company you never heard of has a totally open phone that runs FreeBSD!
- Phone OS should be open so your grandma can get Malware!

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[ACForever]

Found the apple shill.

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[Kohath]

Tim Cook: contact me and I'll tell you where to send the checks.

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[Applehu Akbar]

Found the apple shill.

Argumentum ad monsanteum.

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[JabrTheHut]

Every iteration of the iphone has its own unique bullshit "irreparably broken/useless" story:

iPhone 1: It will be a complete bust.
iPhone 3G: OMG VIRUSES!!!! And reception. And Android will destroy it. And Viruses. And the sky is falling. And viruses!!
iPhone 3GS: It randomly overheats. All other phones can handle being left on a car's dashboard in the middle of summer for 4 hours, can't they?
iPhone 4: The screen breaks if you drop it. How could Apple let this happen?

And so on and so forth. My favorite

I phone u phone we all phone for iPhone

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

Single payer iPhones!

That should increase the tech progress rate and decrease the cost, right? Who could object for this fluff when it's such a great idea for drug development?

5G -- RCS compatibility?

[Gilgaron]

When we moved over to Androids from iPhones we were a little dismayed at the quality of MMS chat when talking to people with iPhones, although RCS between Android devices worked just as well as iMessage ever did. From some reading online it looked like when Apple went to 5G they might be mandated to support RCS. I wonder if this will be the case or if the articles I'd seen were misreading the specifications. I suppose I should switch to Signal anyhow but it'd be nice if the third party stuff wasn't neces

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[WankerWeasel]

Apple won't be switching and won't be required to do such on 5G. iMessage is a feature that sets them apart and one that keeps many on the platform. They're not going to give that up.

Upgrade time

[ArchieBunker]

That means the used market prices should be coming down. My aging 6 Plus still has a good battery and receives OS updates. Can't complain about a 6 year old phone.

take a deep breath, it's just a joke.

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

Oh look. Apple's about to announce the specs of Samsung's next smartphone!

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[thegarbz]

OLED screen? It sounds like Apple is releasing the original Galaxy S a decade late.

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[MobileTatsu-NJG]

Apple was (and is) behind on a bunch of stuff. It's fun to defend anything Android but doesn't affect my joke. (It does mean you can make fun of apple with the same joke. tho! You're welcome!)

https://www.businessinsider.co... [businessinsider.com] -- guess i have to post this link since slashdotter's memories are so short.

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[thegarbz]

Apple was (and is) behind on a bunch of stuff.

take a deep breath, it's just a joke ;-)

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[MobileTatsu-NJG]

Touche! :)

ZZZZZZ

[ACForever]

wake me up when apple does something interesting.

Leave work early on Oct 12th

[guacamole]

The lines are likely going to be very long.

Meet the new boss

[p51d007]

Same as the old boss (except the price will be higher of course LOL)