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Huawei Says US Firms Have Expressed Interest In Licensing Its 5G Technology (reuters.com) 23

An anonymous reader quotes Reuters: Blacklisted Chinese telecoms equipment giant Huawei is in early-stage talks with some U.S. telecoms companies about licensing its 5G network technology to them, a Huawei executive told Reuters on Friday. Vincent Pang, senior vice president and board director at the company said some firms had expressed interest in both a long-term deal or a one-off transfer, declining to name or quantify the companies.

"There are some companies talking to us, but it would take a long journey to really finalize everything," Pang explained on a visit to Washington this week. "They have shown interest," he added, saying conversations are only a couple of weeks old and not at a detailed level yet.

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Huawei Says US Firms Have Expressed Interest In Licensing Its 5G Technology

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  • by EzInKy ( 115248 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019 @04:30PM (#59325648)

    ...not interested in paying a Chinese company royalties while it is subject to the laws of a country that does not respect IP rights.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      They don't have a lot of choice.

      If they ignore the patents then they can be sued in US courts, and courts of other countries can be petitioned to block their infringing products. China may decide to cut off their supply lines too.

      If they don't licence they will remain two years or more behind Chinese companies in the global 5G market. Maybe they can hold the US back by keeping it on 4G but the rest of the world isn't going to wait for them.

      And if they don't licence they it will be a great excuse for Huawei

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        • 5G is a solution in search of a problem.
        • by vyvepe ( 809573 )
          The lower frequency 5G (below 6GHz) will be useful for mobile. The higher frequency version (above 24 GHz) will be useful only in more or less fixed installations where you can avoid cables if you have direct line of sight to the access point.
          • by vyvepe ( 809573 )
            Well, but if we limit ourselves to the low frequency 5G then it is about as quick as 4G. So we do not really need 5G for mobile.
      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        Indeed. This whole thing is so stupid on the US political side, it is staggering. Nicely demonstrates that a certain "stable genius" really is a clueless moron.

        Incidentally, if they license, they will also license the firmware and any potential (mythical) backdoors in there. That makes the whole thing utterly hilarious.

      • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
        The US gov can still decide what tech is allowed for use in the USA... not US "companies ", not "companies" from Communist China, not the WTO...
        Not the 'courts of other countries"...
        Re "ignore" The US did great with that with all the banks who expected North Korea to be good investment...
      • Why exactly do we need 5G? So we can hit our data caps sooner? Most people won't get appreciably faster connections anyway, even if they didn't have pathetic caps. Might as well say fuck it, we're going for 6G... later. Much later.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      Errr....so they license Huawei tech and the Chinese somehow get to steal IP. You ought to work for the Trump Administration, thinking that deep will sure mean you are one of their brain trust.

    • ...not interested in paying a Chinese company royalties while it is subject to the laws of a country that does not respect IP rights.

      Actually, that's demonstrably wrong given how many companies happily do business with China.

  • With this fact, which may get to fruition, some folks here are gonna have a fit of sorts...

    It should be the other way round.

    Not US companies licensing the technology since the USA is the most advanced country on planet earth.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Well, strong delusions ("...the USA is the most advanced country on planet earth...") coma at a steep price. One is nicely demonstrated by this story. Another one is an amplification effect: If you think you are great, you fail to look for problems to fix and become even less great.

      Basically, the whole US has collective Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

  • by melted ( 227442 )

    Force them to manufacture it here, disallow Chinese ownership of their US subsidiaries, and stuff those subsidiaries to the gills with NSA and CIA agents. Then, after a couple of years, just start making your own version of the same thing. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      Re just start making your own " Call it 6 "something" and work with advanced nations that want to support the USA.
    • Usa needs China's technology more than China needs the USA. USA also needs China's exports and China's access to rare Earth minerals crucial to modern technology. They can simply outweigh us well I'm competing us in the rest of the world. As we want what they have more then they want what we have it is on us to cater to them or do without in fall behind. Whoever wants more from the other party , then the other party wants from them ,must cater to the other party in order to gain what they wish to obtain. C
      • by melted ( 227442 )

        That's the globalist view of the issue. The nationalist view is that US companies will see writing on the wall and start diversifying their manufacturing base to other countries. Which is what they're already starting to do, scaring China shitless. China's only hope right now is that someone inept (or corrupt/compromised, like Biden) replaces Trump in 2020, and they can force the US to abandon the trade war, and return to the status quo. The probability of this happening, however, is very low in my estimati

        • Why should China be scared of losing something they don't need? I can see annoyed, as it's annoying to have a few less pleasures, but scared from losing a few a few non-essential baubles?? If China was more dependent on external trade I can understand the fear. China is huge. And has many diverse reasons. properly managed they should never be so desperate as to be afraid when it comes to trade with the rest of the world. They don't need to trade with the rest of the world. they just do it cuz they want to
          • by melted ( 227442 )

            Because their entire economy is set up for growth. Even slowing growth could very easily turn into a recession on a scale the world has never seen, and once the gravy train stops, investors will start heading for the door all at once, further exacerbating the situation. China is still a pretty poor country. A recession will throw a billion or so people into abject poverty, which, after they've tasted somewhat elevated standard of living, means social unrest becomes pretty much inevitable. That, in short, is

            • No wonder eastern cultures don't want their culture is being infected with western philosophies. There a trojan horse when the social virus payload that serves as a rootkit to undermined and enslave a country is culture to economic growth. Which makes them essentially another slave in an economic botnet, dissolving their culture in Independence as those functions are hijacked towards consumerism. I guess we'll see if Chinas culture is mature enough to shake off these attempts to dissolve it fromwithin. It'
  • Part of the attack on Huawei was to the western options being largely inferior in performance. Unfortunately they are ahead of the game in 5G. It's largely a reason many countries are giving the USA the finger when told they shouldn't do business with Huawei.

    Follow the money. He who controls and builds the 5G network stands to gain a huge economic advantage. 4G added $100m to the GDP of the countries which produced it, 5G is expected to increase that 10 fold.

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