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Samsung Unveils Galaxy Note10, Note10+, and Note10+ 5G (venturebeat.com) 86

Posted by msmash from the new-devices dept.
At an event today, Samsung announced not one, but two versions of its flagship Galaxy Note 10 smartphone: the regular Note 10 and the jumbo Note 10+. The Note10's and Note10+'s frames are made from scratch-resistant aluminum that's IP68 rated to withstand 1.5 meters of water for 30 minutes, and their protective glass shielding -- Corning's Gorilla Glass 6, an upgrade from the Note9's Gorilla Glass 5 -- can withstand up to 15 consecutive drops from 1 meter onto rough surfaces. The shared specs of the Note 10 and Note 10+ are: Processor: Snapdragon 855; Display: Dynamic AMOLED with tone mapping; Wide-angle camera: 16 megapixels, f/2.2; Main camera: 12 megapixels, f/1.5 and f/2.4 dual aperture, OIS; Telephoto camera: 12 megapixels, f/2.1, 45-degree; Selfie camera: 10 megapixels, f/2.2; Radios: LTE Cat 2.0, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0; In-screen fingerprint sensor. The Note 10+ features a 6.8-inch display with 3040 x 1440 pixels resolution. It comes with 12GB RAM, 256GB or 512GB UFS 3.0 storage (with support for microSD expansion), and 4,300mAh battery.

The Note 10 features a 6.3-inch display of 2280 x 1080 pixels resolutions. It has 8GB RAM, and 256GB UFS 3.0 of storage (no microSD expansion), and 3,500mAh battery.

The Note 10 starts at $949 and comes in just one configuration: 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage. The Note 10+ starts at $1,099 with 12GB RAM / 256GB storage and you can spend $100 more to get 512GB of storage. Both are available for preorder today and will ship on August 23. The Note 10+ also comes with a 5G variant.
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  • $1k and no headphone jack (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Yeah... Thanks but no thanks.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      On the upside, (from the FA) they apparently provide an adaptor that plugs into the usb-c port as a headphones solution. So at least it's not forced to bluetooth. Though it probably means you can't charge the thing and use headphones at the same time.

      • Or put the phone on a charging pad and DON'T MOVE so that you don't pull it off.

      • On the upside, (from the FA) they apparently provide an adaptor that plugs into the usb-c port as a headphones solution. So at least it's not forced to bluetooth. Though it probably means you can't charge the thing and use headphones at the same time.

        Not with the included dongle however you can buy one that can do both

  • Lost my Note 8 on Vacation (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TomGreenhaw ( 929233 ) on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:01PM (#59059362)
    I replaced it with the cheapest smart phone Verizon offers, the Moto G6 for less than $300.

    In nearly every way, except for the camera, I actually prefer the G6.

    When are people going to wake up to the fact that these phones are way overpriced and that there are alternatives?

    • In nearly every way, except for the camera

      For most people. the camera matters almost more than anything though, since it's the only camera they will have with them.

      I think only a handful of people are willing to opt for a worse camera if they have the means to afford a better one.

      • Flagship phones might get a camera improvement, and the fact that it is the camera I keep around everywhere makes it useful, but I wish Samsung will offer unlocked bootloaders. Everywhere else in the world but the US, Samsung ships Exynos chipsets where a fastboot OEM unlock pops the hood. The US? Locked down tight. Not many phones offer an unlockable bootloader, and a microSD card slot, which is very useful for adding space, as well as backups. I'm sure people don't care about that, but being able to

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        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          I believe this is the fault of the carriers. It's been a while since I looked at it, but they used to requite locked down firmware before granting access to their networks. Their argument was that modified firmware could interfere with other users and they were only willing to allow stuff they had certified on to the network.

          An unlocked bootloader potentially allows firmware modifications for the modem.

          Stupid thing is you can just order a phone over the internet or carry one in to the US on your person, thr

        • Often, you can get the international version on ebay. I can't say for sure it'll cover the same frequency bands, but often flagship phones cover everything. My last two phones were international versions purchased this way.

      • I totally get what you're saying, and I know you're right - but still, it's a bit ridiculous to spend $1000 or more on what amounts to an inferior camera (computational photography notwithstanding) when you can get a light, small dSLR or mirrorless camera with a serviceable lens for less. Yeah, it's bigger than a phone... but it's still very portable and takes better pictures.

        But then, I'm old.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by ranton ( 36917 )

          I totally get what you're saying, and I know you're right - but still, it's a bit ridiculous to spend $1000 or more on what amounts to an inferior camera (computational photography notwithstanding) when you can get a light, small dSLR or mirrorless camera with a serviceable lens for less. Yeah, it's bigger than a phone... but it's still very portable and takes better pictures.

          And on the flip side, it's a bit ridiculous to spend $200+ on a marginally better camera that you now have to carry around with you when you already have a perfectly good camera in your pocket at all times anyway. So considering how there are pros and cons each way, some people will care about the money a little more, some people will care about the convenience a little more, and some will care about the picture quality a little more.

          I personally couldn't imagine owning a camera other than my smart phone. M

        • but still, it's a bit ridiculous to spend $1000 or more on what amounts to an inferior camera (computational photography notwithstanding) when you can get a light, small dSLR or mirrorless camera with a serviceable lens for less.

          I have a DSLR with a number of lenses as well, but I don't mind paying quite a lot for a good camera on a phone because I know that for sure I'll have the phone on my pretty much always, the amount of time I'm willing to carry a camera of any non-pocketable size is much less.

          To me

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          If you want the best smartphone camera then the Pixel 3A is $400. It's decent in every other way too, even has a headphone jack.

          That phone kind of broke the smartphone camera market. No optical stabilization, single sensor/lens, not even the fancy image processing chip in the more expensive Pixel 3... But still the best image quality available. All that chip does is speed up processing, it doesn't affect quality.

      • Everything you can accomplish with a $1k+ flagship phone, you can accomplish with a $150 smartphone and a $250 camera and take better pictures. It's about status for most people. There are very few that use their phones as an actual computing device for whom the flagship device makes sense. Everyone else is buying because of marketing.

    • The Note series has never been gunning for the 'mass market default', and never has. That's the S-series for Samsung. They've always been among the most expensive phones available, and have generally been for the enthusiast market, or those who really, really like a good stylus experience.

      I've had a Stylo 3 Plus for the better part of two years now, and for the $250 I spent for it, it's been solid. Like the G6 you cite and arguably the OnePlus 6T and Pixel 3a (assuming a $500 cutoff), there is indeed a midr

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        You know what defines my spend limit on mobile phones, a failed phone battery. That battery expanded near fifty percent in thickness when it failed, on an old note 3, the failure popped the back cover but you can bet a fixed battery phone would have been destroyed, cracked inside and out, dead. Perfect modern psychopath corporate design, the battery designed to kill the product it is in and the end of life of the battery.

        The killed my desire to spend more on a phone than what I would consider a disposable

    • I replaced it with the cheapest smart phone Verizon offers, the Moto G6 for less than $300.

      In nearly every way, except for the camera, I actually prefer the G6.

      When are people going to wake up to the fact that these phones are way overpriced and that there are alternatives?

      Most people buy Notes for the stylus. Obviously you did not need it to begin with.

    • The Moto G6 comes with a stylus?
    • "I replaced it with the cheapest smart phone Verizon offers, the Moto G6 for less than $300. "

      Actually an unlocked 32 GB Moto G6 is only $160 on Amazon.

      I bought one for my daughter and one for my wife. The one thing I really notice about it is the LCD screen is not as good as the OLED on my trusty Galaxy S5.

      How much do you have to spend to get an OLED screen?

      The old S5, unfortunately, is almost impossible to beat. It's waterproof but has a swappable battery, MicroSD port, and a headphone jack. W

    • When are people going to wake up to the fact that these phones are way overpriced and that there are alternatives?

      Once you wake up to the fact that people are individual, especially you, someone who clearly bought the wrong device since you're comparing two devices with fundamentally different use cases. Seriously if you prefer the G6 to the Note8 you made a mistake buying a phablet.

      Own your mistake.

      Not everyone is like you.

    • The G6 is a fine phone, it's my phone. I just don't see any point in spending more... for what? And it has a headphone jack and a sdcard slot.

  • No microSD slot on Note 10, only on Note 10+ is a dumb.

  • The "+" denotes a better fire rating. :-)

  • Having no headphone jack (which I use every day) makes this a downgrade not just from my existing phone, but from the first-gen iPhone I had over a decade ago. Sure, you could use a dongle, but why?

    The lack of a Bixby button is lame too. Bixby itself is useless, but having a remappable physical button is very handy. I use the one on my Note 8 to turn the flashlight on and off, much quicker and more convenient than doing it through the GUI.

    • why does the dongle bother people so much, it is just a bit of extra wire

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by torkus ( 1133985 )

        why does the dongle bother people so much, it is just a bit of extra wire

        It's a high stress wear point. aka they break all the time.
        They needlessly cost money when they break or are lost.
        It's another thing you need to remember to bring with you.
        It prevents (wired) charging without *yet another* adapter.
        It offloads the D/A conversion to a low-cost dongle.
        It's fucking stupid and I've yet to hear a single consumer-minded reason for them
        Headphones jacks work just fine in phones, there's no need to replace it.

        That's a few of the reasons headphones dongles bother people. I'm sure ot

        • I've had so many headphone wires fail near the connector, I would welcome if a cheap dongle breaks instead

    • The lack of a Bixby button is lame too. Bixby itself is useless, but having a remappable physical button is very handy. I use the one on my Note 8 to turn the flashlight on and off, much quicker and more convenient than doing it through the GUI.

      On my Lenovorola X4 I use Moto Actions. Chop chop chop like you're dicing onions toggles the flashlight. Twist twist twist and it launches the camera. Button schmutton. $150 unlocked with supposed upgrade to Android Q. Camera's a bit weak in low light, but great in the daytime, so I forgive it since it's so cheap. Here's to hoping the battery lasts.

    • The in-screen fingerprint reader is also a serious downgrade. I wish I could turn my S10+ back in for my S9+. The new fingerprint reader takes about a full second to register if it works correctly, but about 75% of the time, it doesn't work at all and I'm forced to use my PIN to unlock my phone. It's ridiculous.

  • So it is not only inconveniently big like the old one, but crazy oversized. I cannot recharge it in seconds by replacing the battery. It has no 3.5mm headphone jack. I will rather buy a fourth 3rd-party replacement battery for my old device than buy this abomination.

    And I wonder when will at least some reasonably small devices be sold again?
    • The Xperica Compact, the Samsung A3, the Nokia 3510, and the Palm phone are all fairly compact. The Nokia 2.2 and 3510 are made with a replaceable battery.

  • The 5G version starts at $1300, by the way. That's a $200 markup just for a fancier modem. Given that you have to pay more for a data plan that supports 5G, and that you have to stand at specific street corners in order to actually utilize it, I thus conclude that only drug-dealers and high-end prostitutes will be using 5G in the near future.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by torkus ( 1133985 )

      The 5G version starts at $1300, by the way. That's a $200 markup just for a fancier modem. Given that you have to pay more for a data plan that supports 5G, and that you have to stand at specific street corners in order to actually utilize it, I thus conclude that only drug-dealers and high-end prostitutes will be using 5G in the near future.

      Not on T-Mobile you don't. Verizon is knocking people an extra $10 (for now).

  • No headphone jack? I'm out. (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    The headphone jack is the only way to link the phone to my car stereo, so, I guess I won't be getting the new Note.

  • I guess I'm the target audience for this phone. (Score:3)

    by RickyShade ( 5419186 ) on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:51PM (#59060044)

    The Note10 appeals to me due to size. I liked my V30's size and weight. I could easily operate it with one hand, not so with this Note9 (single hand mode is kinda lame). The Note10 has almost all the same dimensions and weight as the V30, so I would have an all-screen device that I can operate with one hand and has a 6.3" screen, plus it's not an LG device (sorry LG!). I don't need a huge battery that lasts forever, 1080 looks fine to my eyes in a 6.4" screen, and I don't use headphone jacks or SDcards. I wager there's more people like me out there than you might imagine. One reviewer said in particular that people fall in love with the Note but don't buy it because it's so bulky, and the Note10 is here to address this problem. You still get a Note10+ if you like a huge device and you at least get the battery and SD card capability. The Note10 is a good compromise in size and features for many.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Check the MKBHD review of the Note 10. It looks okay. Overpriced for sure. For some reason the power button now doubles as a Bixby button. Yeah, they are still trying to make Bixby a thing people actually might use.

    • The Note 10 Plus has a noticeably larger display, and is therefore bigger in general, and it comes with a few upgrades under the hood and in the camera department compared to the standard model.

  • I don't understand how one can drop so much cash on a consumer electronics device if it's going to have only two years of support for software or security updates. I am fine with spending this kind of money on an iPhone because past experience shows that Apple provides iOS updates for 5-6 years (iPhone 5S from 2013 is still running the most current iOS 12). But as far as Android devices go, I can't justify spending over 300-400 bucks on something like a Moto or a Pixel device, anything costing more us just

  • Curved screens are incompatible with case protection. While I like big screens, I don't think I am going to buy any more cellphones with curved screen edges. I bough the best protection I could for my Galaxy Note 8, and the screen is cracked. I can replace it under my protection plan an a nominal feel, but I see no reason to do so.
  • The Galaxy Note 4 had a flat screen and a removable battery.

  • I've had a Galaxy Note 10 since 2014... their 10" tablet with pen, 3G (or was it even LTE yet?). Echangeable battery, takes a microSD card, has a classic connector for earphones.

    Maybe I should try selling it for sth like 1200 EUR through eBay, maybe someone will be stupid enough to mistake it for the new model. Then again, the new ones don't feature the holy trifecta, so...

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  • They just walked away from the high-end cellphone market, at a time when cellphone sales are dwindling.

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