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RED Founder Blames Chinese Company For Hydrogen One Problems and Announces Hydrogen Two 36

RED's Hydrogen One phone had a rocky rollout to say the least, and founder Jim Jannard has offered a partial explanation while announcing the first details on the device's successor. From a report: In a post on the Hydrogen-focused H4Vuser.net website, Jannard blames the Hydrogen One's unnamed Chinese ODM (original design manufacturer) for having "significantly under-performed" and making it "impossible" to fix the issues with the phone. Now Jannard's attention is on the Hydrogen Two as well as a long-promised camera module that will work with both phones. The Hydrogen Two is being designed "virtually from scratch" in partnership with a new ODM that is "clearly more capable of building and supporting the product we (and our customers) demand," Jannard says.
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RED Founder Blames Chinese Company For Hydrogen One Problems and Announces Hydrogen Two

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  • by bit trollent ( 824666 ) on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:34PM (#58981386) Homepage

    RED was pushing the limits of technology with this phone, like with a 'holographic screen', but they seem to have viewed this as an exercise in offshore manufacturing and design.

    If you have to push the limits of technology you have to do something more than simply instructing your low cost Chinese supplier to do the impossible.

    Let's not forget, they actually built and sold this ridiculous contraption whose only 3-D effect was a total destruction of image quality...

    • Phht. The Samsung Note 7 had a 3D effect that resulted in total destruction of image quality.

      (with fire)
    • by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
      Is this the same RED rhat sells consumer SSDs with manufacturer firmware in a costum case at a vast premium claiming theybsoent milions in r&d on those same SSDs? In thst case I hope the sell 0 Hydrogen 2s they deserve all the losses they can rack up, they make good cams but realy seems like a chitty company
      • by _merlin ( 160982 )

        Yes, it is. They also use proprietary codecs, and their cameras are well-known for crashing and interrupting shooting. You're better off with Arri - they're more reliable and physically tougher.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        Is this the same RED rhat sells consumer SSDs with manufacturer firmware in a costum case at a vast premium claiming theybsoent milions in r&d on those same SSDs? In thst case I hope the sell 0 Hydrogen 2s they deserve all the losses they can rack up, they make good cams but realy seems like a chitty company

        They ALL do that. Every bit of gear is proprietary except the interconnects. And it's not like you can't find just as bad behavior elsewhere - official HP storage (SSD or HDD) are way overpriced, eve

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It was a strange product. A high end camera company suddenly decides to make a phone. Their plan seemed to be to OEM a phone and then add a special camera to it, since they had no experience with phones. Maybe an attempt to use their reputation (especially with YouTubers who love them) to sell consumer products.

      Sounds like some idiot MBA trying to emulate companies like Caterpillar, which went from industrial machinery into apparel and lifestyle goods, and eventually rugged phones.

      If they had actually deliv

  • by JoeyRox ( 2711699 ) on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:38PM (#58981408)
    You would think they would have used exhaustive due diligence in both selecting and verifying that the manufacturer can deliver what they promised they would, including trial prototype production runs during the design phases.
  • Sounds similar to Musk and Tesla!

  • by sabt-pestnu ( 967671 ) on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:49PM (#58982022)

    Combine a Samsung Galaxy Oxygen [androidheadlines.com] with a pair of RED Hydrogen One [wikipedia.org] (or one Hydrogen two)

  • If the business is high-end, cutting edge gear, then perhaps don't outsource all of your design & engineering?

    Don't outsource the thing you supposedly do better than anyone else.

    Duh.

  • I would expect a RED phone to be the absolute best ambient-light smartphone on the market. There is a large demand for that and a potential new market for people who want to do low-budget filmmaking.

    But, apparently they focused on an impossible display and STILL haven't delivered a camera module, and it's only outboard? Who the hell is setting direction in their smartphone division? Why would they think customers would buy a phone from them?

    The ODM isn't the problem here.

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