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The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier (9to5mac.com) 124

Robert Hwang, CEO of a large iPhone manufacturing company in India, has let slip that the upcoming iPhone will have wireless charging. Hwang told reporters after the company's shareholder's meeting: "Assembly process for the previous generations of [iPhones] have not changed much, though new features like waterproof and wireless charging now require some different testing, and waterproof function will alter the assembly process a bit." 9to5Mac reports: Just this week, new glass panels purporting to be from the upcoming iPhones have given us another glimpse into the devices' designs. Showing off an iPhone 7s, 7s Plus, and iPhone 8, the images indicated that the glass back panels would open the door for wireless charging across all the devices. According to Hwang, Wistron's India facility is currently making "a small number" of handsets for Apple. He states the growth in manufacturing will hinge on relations between Apple and the Indian government.

The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier

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  • fantastic (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @06:54PM (#54622153)
    wireless charging! Welcome to 2013! your improving apple, only a few years behind everyone else now.
    • by OhSoLaMeow ( 2536022 ) on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @06:59PM (#54622203)
      And they'll charge the phone using a 3.5mm jack!
    • your improving apple

      How is your/you're so difficult?

      • your improving apple

        How is your/you're so difficult?

        In this case, "your" could actually be grammatically correct if intended in the same way as "your average bear". Still, I don't understand why pronoun/contraction confusion is so prevalent.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      2013? The Palm Pre had wireless charging back in 2009. It was shit. Completely unreliable and prone to breaking.

      The value you get from Apple is not that they are the first to do things. It's that they usually wait until something can be done well and then they are the first to do things in such a way that the masses are happy. Apple weren't the first with a smartphone, or a mobile browser, or a tablet, or an online music store, or a fingerprint reader, or any number of other things. But they were the

      • 2013? The Palm Pre had wireless charging back in 2009. It was shit. Completely unreliable and prone to breaking.

        Really? My experience was the exact opposite. Unlike the Qi standard used today, the Pre's system had magnets to snap the phone into the correct alignment, eliminating the biggest complaint about wireless charging on Android.

    • by GuB-42 ( 2483988 )

      wireless charging! Welcome to 2013! your improving apple, only a few years behind everyone else now.

      Apple is always the first. When it isn't, it is the first to "do it right".
      In the case of wireless charging, the technology exists but it is lacking courage. I mean, the regular charging port is still there.

    • by MrLint ( 519792 )

      2013?

      Palm debuted the Pre at the 2009 .

  • by rmdingler ( 1955220 ) on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @06:56PM (#54622175) Journal

    The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier

    Everyone here is dancing about like five-year-olds on Christmas morning.

    • by mspohr ( 589790 )

      Apple invented wireless charging... (or maybe they're just re-inventing it... or just copying something I have been using for five years now.)

      • Apple invented wireless charging... (or maybe they're just re-inventing it... or just copying something I have been using for five years now.)

        Well Mister High technology Android user, Wireless technology has been around ever since transformers, it's as exciting as salt water. And if it sticks around this time, it will be a first.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Wireless charging sucked.

          But, now Apple did it,

          It's great!. It just works(tm)

          • Wireless charging sucked.

            But, now Apple did it,

            It's great!. It just works(tm)

            No, Apple or no Apple, it sucks.

        • My Sonicare toothbrush has been wirelessly charging every night for 15 years.
          • My Sonicare toothbrush has been wirelessly charging every night for 15 years.

            Wow. So Android didn't have it first. 8^)

        • by zlives ( 2009072 )

          i might have a Tesla coil lying around somewhere.

  • Apple announces that it maybe will do it on the next version, unless they change their mind at the last minute.

  • I'm betting that it is nothing but a pad that you lay your phone on instead of having to plug it in... Something that My Samsung Note 4 can already do if you have the right third party equipment. Trust me, this will only make chargers a whole lot more expensive.

    Where I welcome the water proof part, I wonder what this means to how you sync your phone now? Are they removing the lighting connector or just adding the necessary elements to capture power from a magnetic field....

    • Shake the phone really quick next to a fridge magnet == free wireless charging from the magnetic field!
    • I will be honest, wired syncing isnâ(TM)t much of a thing anymore for a lot of people. I havenâ(TM)t synced this phone with iTunes at all since I got it. Everything is over wireless including backups.

    • I'm betting that it is nothing but a pad that you lay your phone on instead of having to plug it in... Something that My Samsung Note 4 can already do if you have the right third party equipment. Trust me, this will only make chargers a whole lot more expensive.

      Where I welcome the water proof part, I wonder what this means to how you sync your phone now? Are they removing the lighting connector or just adding the necessary elements to capture power from a magnetic field....

      Most people sync over WiFi.

  • When it comes to phones I am only on my 2nd smartphone as I hang on to them a long long time, both have had wireless charging, and I have been using it for years, but I was scared

    why? you may ask, well obviously it has not been invented yet, as apple devices do not have this privilege. I was scared that any moment my house would be raided by government agents thinking I was engaged in industrial espionage and a time traveler. Now I have no fear of that as its now been invented, and I can live a normal life

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )
      Basically my theory holds.

      If you want to know what will be in the new Iphone in 18-24 months, look at what Android has now, the caveat is that only some of what Android has will be permitted.

      Pretty sure my old Nexus 4 had wireless charging and that was released in late 2012.
  • you're blocking my wireless charging!
  • Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.

    Sounds about right for all the right thinking SJWs that seem to be running things now.
    • by Khyber ( 864651 )

      Edison's light bulbs were nowhere near 20% efficient. We only just recently figured out encasing the filament with an IR-reflective/visible-transparent glass can (over a short period of time) bring the efficiency close to that of LED at true blackbody output.

    • by aXis100 ( 690904 )

      Poor guess. It's closer to 60 to 70% efficiency into the battery for Qi.

      Not to mention that smartphone energy efficiency has been improving and their use is offsetting a lot of PC/laptop use that consumes an order of magnitude or two more energy.

    • Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.

      Wireless charging is simply a marketing ploy, I mean wireless internet is a great thing, so now with wireless charging, I'll just walk around the house and my phone will always be charged, amiright?

      When in truth, its just that one side of a transformer is inside the dock or pad, and the other side is inside the telephone. Which makes for a piss-poor transformer at best, and loses efficiency the further one coil gets from the other, and takes up valuable space that might be better used for say - a bigger

      • The micro-usb port stopped working on my Nexus 7 (2013). The battery was already completely drained, of course, and it seemed like the tablet and all the files that were on it were lost. Then I found out it supports wireless charging, spent $10 on a pod and the tablet is still going to this day.

        Sure, it's slow and inefficient and you have to place the tablet just right (configured it to go 'ding' when it starts charging, that helps). I wouldn't pick it as the primary means of charging a new device, but I ce

      • It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?

        Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.

        • It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?

          Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.

          Indeed they do add up quickly. The energy transfer will get so low as to be useless in short order.

          The closest I can get to the concept of a useable wireless charger is similar to a physical dock, where you drop the phone into it, with little slots that align the two parts of the transformer. But then, that would be kinda like the docks that Police and Hams plug their handheld devices into. I have several. And they work quickly and flawlessly. The difference is that they have actual contacts. And most ar

        • It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?

          Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.

          Yes. Inverse-square law.

          • by aXis100 ( 690904 )

            That not true for wireless phone charging:

            1) It operates in the near field where the inverse square law doesn't apply.

            2) The electric and magnetic forces are uncoupled and it's not streaming radiation out like a light bulb. The energy oscillates between the antenna and the near field.

            • That not true for wireless phone charging:

              1) It operates in the near field where the inverse square law doesn't apply.

              2) The electric and magnetic forces are uncoupled and it's not streaming radiation out like a light bulb. The energy oscillates between the antenna and the near field.

              I'm not sure what the definition of "near" is. But I am pretty sure that, anytime there isn't a "direct" (wired) connection, inverse-square applies.

              Prove me wrong. Show me a cite.

      • ... and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.

        And my guess is that you run off on a rant without actually having used a wireless charger with your phone regularly.

        Wireless charging is a silly feature on paper. And I find it nice and convenient in practice.

        • I agree: I've been using wireless charging since the end of 2012 when I got my Note2, and it's a required feature for me. Why would I want to deal with plugging in my device every time I set it down? I just set it on it's charger, roughly centered, and there's no penalty for picking it up again.
          • I agree: I've been using wireless charging since the end of 2012 when I got my Note2, and it's a required feature for me. Why would I want to deal with plugging in my device every time I set it down? I just set it on it's charger, roughly centered, and there's no penalty for picking it up again.

            Free! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, I'm free at last!!

            Are you by any chance that person on the First World Problems meme?

        • ... and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.

          And my guess is that you run off on a rant without actually having used a wireless charger with your phone regularly.

          Wireless charging is a silly feature on paper. And I find it nice and convenient in practice.

          I don't need nor want a wireless charger. Some of my most important uses of my iPhone are for driving guidance. Long days, brightness up full, volume up full, the phone sitting in a cradle, plugged in to it's charger (my Jeep has an inverter in it). How am I going to do that with a wireless charger? Aside from a ridiculous looking kludge.

          I don't recall ever saying it doesn't work. I have said often it is a silly solution that is inefficient, and steals valuable interior phone space, and you can't charge

    • 1) Make up numbers about how efficient wireless charging is - claim it's going to cause mass inefficiency for a product that uses 1 kWh per year.
      2) Blame SJWs

      Really, the biggest waste with mobile phones is people replacing them if they don't need to.
    • Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.

      Sounds about right for all the right thinking SJWs that seem to be running things now.

      Transformers are typically above 90% efficient; so why would wireless charging be so abysmally Inefficient?

      • Transformers usually have an iron core, wireless charging is effectively an air core (much less efficient), plus there is the potential for misalignment which will reduce efficiency.
        • Transformers usually have an iron core, wireless charging is effectively an air core (much less efficient), plus there is the potential for misalignment which will reduce efficiency.

          We're talking "ideal systems" here. Misalignments need not apply.

          And I'm not sure if the core material has much effect, depending on the frequencies involved. And I believe that wireless chargers generally operate in the high kiloHertz up to low GigaHertz regions. I'm not sure iron-core transformers work very well at those frequencies.

  • by TheRealHocusLocus ( 2319802 ) on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @08:38PM (#54622711)

    I cannot wait for parasitic devices and ideas begin to feed off each other and off us, locked in a desperate struggle where tactics of escalation and power status notifications ---- not useful work --- becomes their primary function. Health monitors that damage health to charge and increase market share. Wearable devices that charge from human motion deliver shocks to cause motion, leaving a trail of sugar-depleted corpses. Wireless charged devices send "kill shots" to other devices to harness their chargers. WiFi parasites trigger encrypted porn downloads to maximize state-changes and harvest more energy. AT&T sends another circular trying to get us to switch to DirectTV. AT&T installs public megawatt Wifi outside your home to explode competitor's routers. Implantable devices that gather energy from tissue and decrease the nutrition of breast milk. speedtest.net consumes all traffic. Humans become minor players in symbiosis to ensure that Lithium-ion batteries reproduce. Cloud architecture virtualizes to the point of singularity when not a bit of actual hardware can be found. Interesting times.

    Also see: The Time Rift of 2100: How We lost the Future --- and Gained the Past. [slashdot.org]
    (rejected by WIRED Magazine!)

  • by Snufu ( 1049644 ) on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @08:43PM (#54622729)

    Leak different.

  • by kiviQr ( 3443687 )
    Will you need iChargePad with iSpecialCharger to connect it to iSocekt (aka 110V outlet)?
  • Apple is doing their customers a huge disservice. The decision to move to wireless charging places aesthetics before utility in an effort to create a device without ports, connectors or holes in the chassis in what can only be described as masturbatory design.

    Nearly all of Apples competitors - Namely high end Android devices like the Google Pixel, Samsung Galaxy S8 and coming Note 8, LG, Motorola, Sony, HTC, etc - Are ALL using 15,18+ watt turbochargers that can recharge your device incredibly fast over ch

    • It will still have a lightning port and it will use standard (Qi) charging. Don't waste your words.

    • This [amazon.com] $20 wireless quick charger for my S7 works pretty darn fast. Is it faster than wired charging? Probably not but it's fast enough for my needs and is convenient. And I'm happy Apple is finally jumping on the wireless charging band wagon.
  • Happy to see Apple has finally invented this technology. Everyone else should have it, too, in a couple of years.
  • The Palm Pre had this in 2012. Innovation, or Apple licensing HP technology?
    • The Palm Pre had this in 2012. Innovation, or Apple licensing HP technology?

      The Palm Pre came out in 2009, and had wireless charging as an option from the beginning. (Required buying the charger and a replacement back with the charging coil.) The Pre Plus was about 6 months later, and included the charging back.

  • Stop calling it wireless charging. there are wires. It's plugless charging.

    • Stop calling it wireless charging. there are wires. It's plugless charging.

      If this becomes popular, you'll start seeing restaraunt tables having "plugless" charging. Everyone keeps their phone on the table anyway (an annoying habit, but now the status quo), so making them charge will be nice.

  • Oooh, whats next?
    Some kind of magic connector, that when you plug it in to a computer allows you to drag and drop files directly into the device?

    Some kind of futuristic transparent material, like regular window-glass but that doesn't break immediately if you drop it?
    Like some kind of magic diamond goblet?
    And the whole phone is covered by it, instead of regular window-glass?

  • knowing apple, they will have their own wirelesscharging system, so they can make extra money from selling the chargers. I do hope they will support Qi wireless charging, as most devices which have wireless charging support that standard. otherwise, just big finger to Apple, and hoping that the EU will call on them for not using a unified standard.
  • ...yah, maybe it will have wireless charging. But if it doesn't have a built in normal audio jack, it will also not hav me as a customer....
  • That's cool, I need abandon my iphone 7

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