Sleeper: LG G2 One of the Fastest Android Smartphones On the Market 108
MojoKid writes "The LG G2 is the follow-up to LG's Optimus G Pro. It's also one of the few smartphones on the market right now powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 quad-core SoC. The G2 sports a 5.2-inch 1080p display, 2GB of RAM and up to 32GB of on board storage. However, the 2.26GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800 chip on board also has Qualcomm's Adreno 330 GPU that even gives NVIDIA's Tegra 4 a run for its money in gaming and graphics performance. Though the G2 has a rather unorthodox volume rocker and power button assembly on the back of the phone, once you get used to the location, it's actually a pretty comfortable control system. What's pretty impressive though is the G2's performance combined with its 3000mAh battery that offers a solid balance of horsepower and battery life and rivals flagship phones like the Samsung Galaxy S4 and Apple's iPhone 5S."
No no no! (Score:5, Funny)
I have Ads Disabled turned on!
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The so-called "review" on that hotfuckware site is worse than useless, especially their graphic performance page
On one graph they showed Apple's iPhone 5s and iPhone 5 dominating all others, by a very long shot - by almost 3 times the speed of LG's G2 - but they NEVER explain in what way they obtained that number
The whole review is a piece of shit, as far as I am concern
Can't reconcile yourself with the fact that Apple produces better products?
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since it's just that on screen draw test I'd have to guess that they don't use flicker reduction on ios or it's different variety or something related to that.
Nice slashvertisement (Score:1, Troll)
How about bringing up the fact that the LG G2 is about half the performance of the 5s in benchmarks that aren't cheated?
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7335/58181.png [anandtech.com]
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7335/58170.png [anandtech.com]
Only companies worth buying from right now are Moto and Apple.
Re:Apple Cheating on Benchmarks since 2003 (Score:4, Funny)
And a 10 year old computer benchmark has exactly what to do with a phone?
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And in other news...Apple must be equally as dishonest since the founders use to steal long distance in 1975......
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Please do not try to bring facts into any Apple bashing. It only makes things worse for you in the long run. They will bring up more and more irrelevant things just to prove you wrong...
Re:Apple Cheating on Benchmarks since 2003 (Score:5, Informative)
That report was later discredited. The accusation was largely based on the fact that the testers had disabled hyperthreading on the compared Dell PC: it turned out they had done this because it made that benchmark result *better*. They showed the x86 in its best possible light, so that those in the peanut gallery couldn't credibly accuse them of bias in favour of the G5.
History Lesson (Score:2)
That report was later discredited. The accusation was largely based on the fact that the testers had disabled hyperthreading on the compared Dell PC: it turned out they had done this because it made that benchmark result *better*. They showed the x86 in its best possible light, so that those in the peanut gallery couldn't credibly accuse them of bias in favour of the G5.
So by best possible light you meant returning figures of "SPECint base score of 800, 889 and 836" instead of "1089" and "SPECfp base scores were 840, 693 and 646" instead of "1053" to by *better* you mean iPhone better ;)
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I only mean that, in isolation from other configuration, turning hyperthreading off produced a higher benchmark result than turning it on. Dell didn't publish details of how they had configured the computer to produce their numbers although the compiler probably had a large part to do with it; according to the follow-up article [theregister.co.uk], the host OS was different (Linux vs Windows) and they had probably used the Intel compiler whereas the VeriTest study used gcc (for both the x86 and the G5, which makes sense if you
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No way!! Facts in an Apple bashing thread? Please hand in your 5 digit uid now!
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Seriously, you had to go back over a decade to find an example of Apple cheating on benchmarks? How many generations ago is that in computer technology?
Try again by citing a source that shows them cheating on benchmarks now.
By your link your proof dearth of evidence (Score:2)
You had to go all the way back to 2003 to find ANY link of Apple cheating - so pretty obviously it's not happening or someone would have found it by now.
Thanks for the confirmation of Apple's reputation.
Re: Nice slashvertisement (Score:2)
As an european, to me the update-policy nowadays, while they were a major factor in previous decisions, are insignificant.
I only care if the bootloader could be opened with tools provided by the manufacturer, not by exploiting a vulnerability.
Android by default prefers weak encryption algorhythms over secure ones. Google is an american company. The NSA tried to weaken open source and closed source products alike on a big scale, but failed on some open source products. Nuff said.
I would not use any standard
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Re: Nice slashvertisement (Score:1)
While you are correct, I was referring to the necessity to do it in the first place. As an european, civilian liberties from the US do not apply to me. So doing ANYTHING to me is even less of a problem for your agencies than it is for US citizens. And the rights of american citizens today are already inacceptable low. And for you government, europeans have NO rights whatsoever. So the need to avoid american clouds and products has increased dramatically.
That is what I meant. But yeah, I could unlock any dev
Re: Nice slashvertisement (Score:1)
See next post in thread. The european reference is about the need to unlock the device and install a firmware remotely trustable and tighten security from there on.
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"Fill rate"? Seriously? That's been a meaningless graphic benchmark for such a long time, why even include it?
For quite some time now, any smart phone you buy has more than enough CPU power to do everything you'd care to do on a device of this size. This is all just dick measuring contest now.
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Cheating on benchmarks is only a problem is some people do it. If everyone does it, the benchmarks work again.
Thus you could argue that the companies who refuse assign an intern to reverse engineer their competitors cheats and port those cheats to their products are the problem.
One of the fastest? (Score:5, Insightful)
"LG G2 One of the Fastest Android Smartphones On the Market" I love those kind of generic statements. All the Android phones except the slowest one is "one of the fastest".
Re:One of the fastest? (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh, good. Now we've clarified it to the precision of a "handful". I have pretty steady hands. I can probably stack up a good dozen phones or more before considering my hands "full". Of course, if we consider the use of tape or a sufficiently-large basket, I could fit a significant amount of the currently-available phones, and we can then just call them all "fastest".
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Sleeper? (Score:4, Informative)
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How is it a sleeper? It's not made by Apple or Samsung, but it is being heavily marketed on TV and has solid reviews (aside from the atrocious Android skin) all over the Web...
Slept with the Slashdot admins to make it onto the front page.
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No everybody is a womaniser by nature you know.
Trust me. I know.
Nice slashvertisement (Score:4, Insightful)
Samsung, well, hardware specs aside, I find the software build on the S3 and the Galaxy Tab to be crap. We currently have a galaxy victory (essentially a smaller screened S3), and I have had much worse specced phones run more smoothly with less crashes. The clusterfuck that is KIES pisses me off too, I cannot count the times I have tried to troubleshoot my mom's galaxy tab (and she lives on the other side of the pond and gets frustrated easy, so it is a difficult prospect.
With one miss, LG has been very consistent to me. And from what I read, it may have been a bad apple as some units in that model apparently were lemons.
All that aside, I am a geek, I use Ting, so I pay outright for my phones, no subsidies. With my Optimus G, I do not need more. Quad core, 1.5GB, accelerated Open GL 2. Runs just about any app I throw at it smoothly, and has more power than my girlfriend laptop. I do not need, nor have the budget, to drop $600-900 on something even faster, even if that cost is amortized over a contract.
When I finally break this one through carelessness, then I will buy a used model that is a year or so back on the treadmill, pay half or less what others are, and guess what, I will still be happy.
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Nothing worse than an underpowered girlfriend laptop.
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You do realize that those young'uns you deride aren't old enough to have had a phone last 3 years, right?
uh... (Score:1)
I get the comments of "slashvertisement" and the like, but you *do* know it's been possible to buy story content and placement on Slashdot for a while, right? It's not listed specifically in their public rate card, but I work in the media department of a tech company that has bought traditional banner ads on a network that Slashdot was part of, and their direct-to-buyers materials were pretty clear that you could buy a headline and summary text, or even exclusivity (the only "sponsored" post in a given time
No SD, No sell (Score:4, Informative)
Re:No SD, No sell (Score:4, Informative)
This is kinda funny - the last phone I had that actually had an SD-Card slot was my Droid-X, and previously the HTC Nexus 1.
BOTH phones required you pull the battery out to swap the SD-Card... so I never did. You know what - I found you really don't need to either. There are so many connection options for the Android OS that you can move files to and from it really easily, and it has TONS of cloud based options too for streaming audio and video over the net.
I think I use up like 4-5 gigs of my Galaxy Nexus's 32 gigs of storage.
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I have 4-5GB free on my 64GB card. Can't hardly wait until the 128GB cards come out.
Cloud doesn't work when you don't have a connection. No WiFi at work, and concrete walls so 3/4G only works once in a while. I have to walk to the other end of the building, just to make a call.
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I just returned from 30 days touring the United Kingdom. I didn't think I would take many pictures or video - it's not really my thing - but I surprised myself by recording about 20 gigs of photos and video.
Cloud options weren't possible because I was using a prepaid SIM with limited data (unless I wanted to spend a fortune 'topping up' every few days for more data). Even with unlimited data or ready access to wi-fi, it would have taken ages to back up all those videos, etc. I ended up deleting all my music
Expandability (Score:1)
I never pull the card, but I've got one in mine.
It's the built-in-only crap that lets companies get away with things like charging over $100 for adding a few gig of storage, and then advertising the 8GB model with the ** at the end stating "base model price" or whatever
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It does support USB OTG, but I agree, SD slot or bust.
Slashdot Going Downhill (Score:2)
The fact there was no "The Sleeper Must Awaken!" comments in the first few minutes tells me the /. crowd is rapidly going down hill.
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Re:Slashdot Going Downhill (Score:4, Funny)
Dude, the /. crowd has been going downhill all since 1008, the year I first read a post here.
Wow, you really are Viking power!
Re:Slashdot Going Downhill (Score:5, Funny)
I agree with GP... I think it all started in the story about Olav Haraldsson landing on Saaremaa Island in Estonia. Rather tan talking about the possible political impact of this unsanctioned invasion, slashdotters just spent their time doing Viking jokes.
The Norse god Thor decided to become a mortal for a while and went down to earth. He met a beautiful girl and they spent the evening together. In the morning Thor decided to reveal his identity to the woman. "I'm Thor" he said. "You're thor!" she said, "Lithen buthter, I'm tho thor I can hardly thit down!"
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Dude, the /. crowd has not been going down hill, you just growing old, you are now becoming the grumpy old dude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM [youtube.com] (hope you're not doing it at a too early age).
It's not about the specs (Score:1)
I used Android phones exclusively from 2008-2012, and the one thing that they all seemed to have in common was that IO blocked the UI, making for an incredibly sluggish experience. Got an application installing in the background? Well get ready for a multiple-second delay for touches.
It's all very well talking about the specs, but I've used phones with good specs before that have felt like some of the slowest phones I've ever seen because of factors other than raw horsepower.
Speedy Conversations? (Score:1)
So as the fastest phone, does that mean when you talk on it, your voice is sped up for really fast conversations, so that you either sound like one of the Chipmunks or the FedEx Guy?
Sleeper (Score:1)
Size creep (Score:3)
To compete for "the fastest" title they're constantly pushing the limits of what could reasonably be considered a phone. At 5.2 inches it's getting close to a 7 inch tablet, next time around I'll have to get a "mini" phone for it to be anywhere close to my current iPhone 4.
Bigger is Better (Score:2)
To compete for "the fastest" title they're constantly pushing the limits of what could reasonably be considered a phone. At 5.2 inches it's getting close to a 7 inch tablet, next time around I'll have to get a "mini" phone for it to be anywhere close to my current iPhone 4.
Size is going up because for those people bigger is better, because its more useful when you are doing *smart* things on one. One of the reasons for iPhones plummeting market share worldwide is due to it not having a product in this desirable market.
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Size is going up because for those people bigger is better, because its more useful when you are doing *smart* things on one. One of the reasons for iPhones plummeting market share worldwide is due to it not having a product in this desirable market.
Yeah, but my pockets are only so big. And I have a Nexus 7 in my bag, the phone in my pocket doesn't need to be anywhere near as smart.
One of the big advantages of Android was supposed to be the variety of devices possible that different manufacturers could come up with to suit different needs, and we are getting that in terms of TV dongles, laptops, tablets, etc, but phones all seem to be the same, growing, size. Variety seems to be reducing not increasing.
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Actually, the variety is increasing, especially in size. Some people want smaller phones, so you have phones like the mini, some people want bigger phones, so you have phablets.
My hands are big enough to comfortably hold an LG G2(feels similar in width to a Droid RAZR MAXX), and still flick any part of the screen that I want. There's plenty of room in my pants pocket, so that's not an issue. I used to carry a Palm Pilot with a Rhino case in my pocket, that was a lot bigger, this phone is very slim in compar
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Say what? Are you joking? Seriously, c'mon just look at the sub $200 end of the market their are a many times more models of budget end mobile phones than there are models of smart phones. Want a cheap budget phone just to make calls, get one, literally thousands to pick from, want a smart phone get one just tens to pick from. Sync the two together wifi and problem solved, if your a woman with a purse, that man purse idea has yet to catch on and sometimes you are just to far from your car ;).
How is up "plummeting"? (Score:2)
One of the reasons for iPhones plummeting market share
iPhone market share has generally been holding steady or rising a bit in some areas - in the U.S. for example iPhone activations for Verizon are over 51% of smartphones last quarter.
Keep telling yourself that though if it helps you sleep.
For fans of giant devices, they have an iPad mini.
Sometimes Less is More (Score:4, Insightful)
I think way too much emphasis is placed on having the absolute fastest CPU/GPU and the biggest battery. If you look at phones like the Moto X and the iPhone 5S they offload the mundane everyday tasks to ultra low power processors. The end results is they aren't firing up the big Ghz SoC as much as they can get significantly more battery life from smaller cells. We need to get away from the spec chasing.
Re:Sometimes Less is More (Score:5, Insightful)
ultra low power processor...more battery life
We need to get away from the spec chasing.
By which you mean "stop chasing this particular spec and go back to chasing the spec I care about".
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No, it was obvious that it meant stop chasing theoretical specs and go back to chasing practical attributes like battery life, usability, etc. that means something to most non-techie users.
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Yes, caring about battery life more than processor clock rates would be the right answer. Some opinions ARE better than others.
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Or just chasing the specs that are most useful to people (given the primary purpose of the device).
Fast 3d rendering isn't going to be all that useful if your phone runs out of battery partway through the day. Power is important, but efficiency moreso
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Actually, it's the opposite. The problem is that you have to wake the radio to do most of the interesting things on a smartphone which is a huge battery drain compared to the processor. iOS saves up pending background events, then rams the CPU speed up to the highest possible step so it can burn through the updates quickly and put the radio back to sleep. It works out "cheaper" in energy terms than running the CPU at a slower speed but having the radio on for longer.
The "M" coprocessor just records accelero
I liked my LG (Score:3, Interesting)
shame (Score:1)
Project Butter (Score:2)
....you must be using one of those slow iPhones.
Haven't heard of things like project butter...get informed http://www.geeksquad.co.uk/articles/what-is-project-butter-in-android-jelly-bean-4-1 [geeksquad.co.uk]
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Aside from that, it isn't like thats the ONLY improvement in project butter.
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thanks for he informative post
What's unique about this? (Score:1)
So the LG G2 is basically the same specs as my Xperia Z Ultra [wikipedia.org] (but with a much smaller screen, and not as thin), or the Xperia Z1 [wikipedia.org], or the Galaxy Note 3 LTE [wikipedia.org], and probably others. Wow, big deal.
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The Wikipedia page on the Snapdragon SOC lists 10 devices that use the Snapdragon 800 and misses two recently announced ones (Galaxy S4 Mini and Samsung's new SM-W2014 flip phone). Many of them are not yet available; I think the ones on your list and the 7" Kindle (well, it's backordered but people have started to receive them) are the only ones you can buy right now. A large percentage of the Snapdragon 800 devices are phablets (plus one straight on tablet, the Kindle Fire HDX, and I'd say that devices tha
The G2 kicks butt... (Score:2)
I was shopping for a new phone when I spotted the G2. The display is the best I've even seen on a (relatively) small screen. Having 32GB of onboard storage makes up for the fact that I can't put an SD card in it (booooo!!!!). That snapdragon processor is very snappy indeed. Animations are very fluid and it seems to handle multitasking quite well. At first I wasn't that impressed with the battery life until I put Juice Defender on it. Now I'm getting a solid 2 days between charges. That's pretty good in my b
Speed cannot make up for (Score:2)
Cost? (Score:2)
What is the price tag?
Let's ask the real questions, not the benchmarks stuff..
What is the price tag?
No, I mean the real one, not the telco fake plan scam price..
Is it easy to unlock?
Does it run current Android easily?
Can the battery be replaced?
Are the speakers any good?
How is the camera?
Nice looking phone (Score:1)