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Xiaomi Mi3 Announced As First NVIDIA Tegra 4 Powered Android Smartphone 52

MojoKid writes "NVIDIA's Tegra 4 SoC is destined for devices beyond NVIDIA's own SHIELD gaming handheld. In fact, ASUS stepped out with the Tegra 4-powered Transformer Pad TF701T just yesterday and today Xiaomi steps out with the 5-inch Mi3 Android smartphone, also powered by Tegra 4. Here in the US Xiaomi might not roll right off the tongue but the Chinese manufacturer is making some serious inroads as of late and attracting top talent to boot. The new Xiaomi Mi3 is based on a 5-inch IPS display with a full HD 1080p resolution, 2GB of RAM, 64GB of on-board storage and a 13MP camera. NVIDIA's Tegra 4, with its quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU and 72 GeForce GPU cores ought to make the device feel rather nimble, especially with gaming and multimedia. If the Mi3 handles anything like SHIELD did in the benchmarks, it could be the Android phone to beat on the test track in the coming weeks."
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Xiaomi Mi3 Announced As First NVIDIA Tegra 4 Powered Android Smartphone

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  • Ummm... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Thursday September 05, 2013 @07:17PM (#44770297) Journal
    Didn't the NVIDIA Shield have a cooling fan and a couple of giant vents to keep the Tegra 4 happy? How much lower are the clocks going to be on a phone?
    • Maybe you should choose the Snapdragon option if you don't want your phone to function as a space heater []

      • I'm not really in the market; but I'm just surprised that they managed to get the thing into a phone chassis at all without either building the phone like a tank or gimping the hell out of the SoC. It isn't an enormous one; but the finned heatsink, fan, and intake and exhaust ports on the Shield were only slightly smaller than those on Atom or ULV-version-of-some-chip-Intel-doesn't-hate laptops. Totally possible that Nvidia just didn't give a damn, and a discrete heatsink was cheaper than a better chassis d
        • i can't keep up with all the jargon... tegra, snapdragon, 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 cores, now 72 cores? is that like the iCore? Mi3, i3, whatevs, man... how can anybody keep them straight!

    • According to Wikipedia, this is clocked only 100MHz lower (1.8GHz, not 1.9GHz as in the Shield). I strongly suspect thermal or TDP limits will throttle that if more than one core is used. For most things, I doubt it'll even kick in the "actual" cores, preferring to run on just the low-power 800MHz "companion core".

  • Nexus 4 Alternative? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    At a supposed price of $327, and as an unlocked android phone, I'd say this is pretty stiff competition for the Nexus 4... I certainly would consider buying one if I didn't already have a N4. Curious to see how the batter holds up.
    • by ozmanjusri ( 601766 ) <> on Thursday September 05, 2013 @08:33PM (#44770757) Journal

      At a supposed price of $327, and as an unlocked android phone, I'd say this is pretty stiff competition for the Nexus 4.

      Xiaomi should be scaring the pants of established phone makers. Their Hongmi (Red Rice) phone has a quad-core 1.2Ghz SoC with 4.7-inch 312ppi IPS display and is selling for $130. Even at that price, it looks like they'll have healthy profit margins - TrendForce says their BOM is only $85. []

      • Xiaomi should be scaring a lot of CE vendors.
      • by ifiwereasculptor ( 1870574 ) on Thursday September 05, 2013 @09:59PM (#44771119)

        Cortex A7 cores, though. And clocked pretty low. The four of them together amount probably to about one and a half 1.8GHz Krait cores or thereabouts.

        • by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Friday September 06, 2013 @04:36AM (#44772775) Journal

          Cortex A7 is not ARM's flagship performance chip, but it's pretty respectable. It's basically a tweaked Cortex A8, with the instruction decoder updated to be compatible with the A15 extensions and the layout optimised for better power consumption. It's still in-order, but it's dual-dispatch and gets similar performance to the A8 clock-for-clock in a much lower power envelope. My current phone has a single-core 1GHz Cortex A8, and it's starting to feel a little slow for a few things, but it's not exactly crawling.

          The Krait is an A15, which does have a much higher IPC than the A7, but at the expense of power consumption. Four A7 cores, at the same clock speed, will draw slightly less power than one A15 core. For a tablet, I'd definitely be more interested in an A15 (or a big.LITTLE with both), but for a phone the A7 is probably a better choice.

      • by satuon ( 1822492 )

        But is anyone buying them? I personally wouldn't invest $325, I buy Chinese only when the price is so low that I won't get angry if it breaks after one week.

    • Why?

      The same reason why you need 2560x1600 on a 13" Macbook Pro... because.

    • by BronsCon ( 927697 ) <> on Thursday September 05, 2013 @08:00PM (#44770577) Journal
      As someone with a 4.7" 1080p display, I can tell you exactly why. It's friggin' beautiful, even without anti-aliasing. And skipping anti-aliasing means more performance with less power from your GPU. While a 5" display won't look quite as nice, slightly fewer dots per inch and all, I'm betting it'll still be damn beautiful.
      • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        720p at 5" is "friggin' beautiful" as well and takes far less processing to fill meaning a REAL savings in GPU power over 1080p.

        People who claim to see a difference between 440 dpi and 470 dpi in a phone are liars.

    • For the video out
    • Not being able to see the pixels, without really working at it, is easy on the eyes(assuming all the art assets/widget sets are in a row and there isn't any ghastly malscaling going on). It's a luxury feature, in the sense that (precisely by virtue of throwing enough pixels at you that they blend together) more resolution doesn't mean more area to work, unlike increases in resolution at lower DPI where you can meaningfully fit more stuff into the same space if only things were packed a bit tighter.

  • How does the iPhone stack up? It's not like most people will carry both.
  • The 'X' is pronounced more or less like English 'sh', and 'ao' is the same as the 'ow' in English 'how'. So it's 'shyow-mee'. First syllable's a high rising tone, second is low rising. For an English speaker, if you simply stress the first syllable, that's close enough.

    It means 'millet' (a type of grain--nothing to do with the French painter).

    • No it doesn't. *sigh* So many people, including a lot of people who should know better, still insist on pronouncing pinyin X as "sh". Chinese already has an sh sound. X is pronounced in a way that native English speakers cannot replicate. You have to learn an entirely new way to move your mouth. I cringe whenever I hear people saying "shay shay" instead of "xie xie" for thank you.

      Xiaomi should have chosen a new name for overseas export. Lots of unpronounceable Chinese brands do this. Gome instead of

      • by gl4ss ( 559668 )

        well, guys, why don't you type out the phonetic way??

        right now I can't even say how english speakers spell "sh", except in the case of shit. is xi more like xenon? surely you don't spell xenon as shenon?

        finnish speaker here, you should all switch to the finnish way of just writing like it's spoken. much simpler.

      • First of all, I said "more or less like", not "[exactly] the same as".

        Second, the difference between X and SH depends largely on the part of the country you're talking about. In the Beijing area, they're quite distinct. In Guangdong, not so much. And yes, I'm talking about different regional varieties of Mandarin, not about differences between Mandarin and Cantonese.

        Third, your complaint about people pronouncing "xiexie" as if it were spelt "sheishei" is conflating this with an entirely different issue. I'v

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Xiaomi should outsource the manufacturing of these things to Missouri. For a dollar or two, the state legislature might change the nickname to "The Xiaomi State". Hell, manufacturing jobs in Missouri probably pay less than in various parts of China now.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Xiaomi's advertised prices are always a kind of bait-and-switch; they're notorious for having seriously limited production runs for their directly-sold models. If you want to buy the unlocked model at the advertised price, you'd better order within 5 minutes of the announcement or they'll be out of stock. This isn't an exaggeration - their previous model sold out in 3 minutes 39 seconds []

    Fortunately for those that didn't manage to get hold of one, the mobile operators have plenty of Xiaomi phones; all you nee

    • by Clsid ( 564627 )

      I was able to find a Xioami phone without all the trouble you are mentioning. When they just came out, of course it was hard to find even if they create an artificial outage, but the same is true of the new HTC One. Samsung is the only company that I have seen that has this massive availability for their products after they are announced.

      In any case, pretty cool phone and even though I hated Android mods (unless it is Cyanogenmod), this is one to look for since it is very well done. Btw, even if you sign up

      • I honestly believe you cannot find such a deal in the States.

        it depends on how many yuan are in a dollar.

  • I was happy to hear it had a Tegra 4 until I read that it did not have the i500 software defined radio. The radio was one of the major selling points and might have allowed it to be used outside China.
  • Here in the US Xiaomi might not roll right off the tongue

    I feel oddly compelled to help with the pronunciation of the company name... Anyway, should be:

    "shao mee"


    "ziao me" as many will probably be predisposed towards.

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