Facebook Home Flagship Phone, HTC First, May Be Discontinued 192
zacharye writes "The HTC First, or 'Facebook phone' as many prefer to call it, is officially a flop. It certainly wasn't a good sign when AT&T dropped the price of HTC's First to $0.99 just one month after its debut, and now BGR has confirmed that HTC and Facebook's little experiment is nearing its end. BGR has learned from a trusted source that sales of the HTC First have been shockingly bad. So bad, in fact, that AT&T has already decided to discontinue the phone. Our source at AT&T has confirmed that the HTC First, which is the first smartphone to ship with Facebook Home pre-installed, will soon be discontinued and unsold inventory will be returned to HTC. How much unsold inventory is there? We don’t have an exact figure, but things aren’t looking good. According to our source, AT&T sold fewer than 15,000 units nationwide through last week when the phone’s price was slashed to $0.99."
Misread their market. (Score:5, Insightful)
They should have charged extra and made them sign up for a waiting list.
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not everyone's phone gets discontinued so quickly... they should feel special
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People don't mind being exploited if you give away stuff in exchange for being exploited. Google gives away very good services for email, calendaring, mapping, news consolidation, search, etc. and oh yeah, a mobile OS!
Just being made to feel special isn't enough, as Facebook is starting to find out.
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The 15,000 people who bought this phone are "special"
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Unbelievable. (Score:2, Funny)
I thought that the Facebook phone would have been the ultimate iPhone killer. It is, after all, the social media age and Facebook integration should have ensured success.
Re:Unbelievable. (Score:4, Insightful)
its not samsung
the smartphone market is Apple and Samsung control more than 95% of the market. everyone else is table scraps
Re:Unbelievable. (Score:5, Insightful)
Every phone is already integrated into facebook to a certain degree. If this were the only phone to ever allow you to see or update facebook, then yes it would be a smashing success. However, it is not. Even the marquee feature of the the "facebook home launcher" is available on other phones. There is nothing the phone can do that others can not.
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Point taken. Did not consider it in that light. :)
Re:Unbelievable. (Score:5, Insightful)
Everybody hates Facebook - they only use it because everyone else does and they have to use it to keep in touch.
FB (Score:3)
Everybody hates Facebook - they only use it because everyone else does and they have to use it to keep in touch
I won't say everybody hates Facebook
I do not hate Facebook, but that does not translate to mean I have to use Facebook
I do not
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Everybody hates Facebook - they only use it because everyone else does and they have to use it to keep in touch.
The last time I checked, no government in the world had made signing up for facebook a legal requirement.
To say you're a follower of fashion then moan about people following fashion is...illogical.
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i think the problem is that the number of people that actively use facebook is grossly overstated by the additional number of users (probably far more) that have merely joined up at some point and then forgot it
i log into facebook maybe once a month, but i'm sure there are plenty of registered users that use it less or not at all
facebook is an ok platform for sharing photos... that's probably about it. eventually something simpler and less commercialized will take over and i'll move to that after the rest o
Registered user here (Score:2)
I'm a registered user on facebook. I use it for a few applications that demand facebook credentials, but other than that it's locked down as tight as I can get it - no friends, no sharing, etc...
I'm sure there's lots like me. Heck, many of my coworkers have TWO facebook accounts -one for friends/family, one for work. I know it violates the TOS, but they don't care.
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Re:Use some logic, dude. (Score:5, Interesting)
OIL, Coal, Microsoft Windows, inkjet printers, Fiat Currencies, cable television, pop with glucose/fructose. There are lots of things that people don't like, but merely put up with because they do not have (or perceive to have) a better alternative.
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Everybody hates it and everybody uses it? That doesn't make any sense.
Mind = Blown @ how much you must think everyone loves the shitter...
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Everybody hates it and everybody uses it? That doesn't make any sense.
Mind = Blown @ how much you must think everyone loves the shitter...
Last time I checked, shitting wasn't optional.
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Everybody hates it and everybody uses it? That doesn't make any sense.
You're applying "sense" to the world? This one? Good gravy...
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Actually, it appearz that Facebook is one of the most hated companies in America:
http://247wallst.com/2013/01/09/the-10-most-hated-companies-in-america-2/2/ [247wallst.com]
Facebook has had customer satisfaction issues for some time, but recently did a particularly good job of alienating a portion of its nearly one billion members. According to the ACSI, Facebook is one of the most strongly disliked American companies, beaten out only by three public utilities companies. This comes in part from the company’s continuing user privacy concerns. Mark Zuckerberg’s company did not help itself in this regard in 2012, after it announced that it had the right to republish any and all photos in the accounts of its Instagram users.
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Everybody hates it and everybody uses it? That doesn't make any sense.
Really? Because everybody hates driving in rush hour traffic, and pretty much everybody has to.
(Yes, I'm being Amerocentric)
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so sad (Score:2)
Color me surprised. [thenextweb.com]
Here Today, Gone Today (Score:2)
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Even the BlinkFeed missed it, it came and went so fast.
Who? I'm sorry, I'm not surgically attached to Internet Blogs...
Is Facebook a Toxic Brand? (Score:5, Interesting)
The Facebook phone flops like few phones have ever flopped. Zuckerberg's lobbying group is collapsing like few lobbying groups have ever collapsed (http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/12/why-zuckerbergs-lobby-fwd-is-collapsing-like-a-house-of-cards-outside-of-dc/).
Many of us are stuck with Facebook due its powerful networking effects (much like AT&T in the old days). But still the FB brand is renowned as being member-abusive, terrible about privacy, cavalier about interface changes and wiping out settings, etc. Perhaps this is a sign that few people are interested in letting FB expand its grip on their lives.
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I don't have facebook and I network just fine, you know by talking to people and shit. About the only people who ask me about facebook are women, and I just get an "oh" back when I say I don't have one.
So, in conclusion: facebook is for 13 year olds, family, and posers (I went to the bar last night check out how badass I am). None of my family uses it making it a complete waste of time.
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If Facebook actually did anything useful, I'd see the point in signing up. As it is, it's just a way to harvest marketing data without providing anything in return that is actually useful. Its UI is horrible, the function it serves is nonexistent, the company is abusive, and the CEO is hostile.
The emperor has been going full monty for several years now.
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I never got the appeal -- it was just MySpace with access control for your friends. Hence it took off as "safer" for students.
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Because you could connect with classmates that you didn't necessarily know. There was a good 18-month period where FB was very useful for setting up study sessions and whatnot.
(Also, you could find out if that redhead two rows down was single)
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Because you could connect with classmates that you didn't necessarily know. There was a good 18-month period where FB was very useful for setting up study sessions and whatnot.
Maybe US colleges are different than here in the UK, but how fucking difficult is it to talk to people in your class? Out of all the times in your life, college is where it's easiest to meet new people.
Christ knows what you were like when you started working, did you literally never talk to any of your colleagues except over the internet? Even if they were sitting next to you?
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I don't have facebook and I network just fine, you know by talking to people and shit.
And even talking to shit is probably optional.
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Then again - many of us refuse to do some things because we realize there is no value in it.
I'll admit, I have an account. I go for weeks without signing in. When I do sign in, I just scan over some of the stupid shit my family and acquaintances are doing. Occasionally, I'll sign in to post a petition to kill bankers, or kill pharmaceutical corporate officers, or kill all lawyers and politicians. Oh, Monsanto, too.
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When I do sign in, I just scan over some of the stupid shit my family and acquaintances are doing. Occasionally, I'll sign in to post a petition to kill bankers, or kill pharmaceutical corporate officers, or kill all lawyers and politicians
So your family and friends posting photos of interest, discussing topics of mutual interest or just having a few giggles is "stupid shit" but signing a totally meaningless and juvenile petition to kill strangers is somehow a good use of your time and the resources of the internet?
Gotcha.
Re:Is Facebook a Toxic Brand? (Score:5, Insightful)
The question you need to ask yourself is that if all of a sudden facebook was replaced by another website fulfilling similar/identical needs, would people care? I think not. If you asked the same for Apple, though, I think a lot of people would cry out at their iDevices being taken away. That, right there, is brand power.
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It is not uncommon for lobbying group, particularly new groups with little political expertise, to flop. Even groups that should be politically savvy, such as Freedomworks, which got almost no one elected during the last cycle, can be flops, though well funded as they provi
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I don't think Facebook itself is a toxic brand, I just thing people didn't want a phone that was kind of "Facebook all the time".
I can think of one phone that flopped as hard as the Facebook phone - the Rokr. That thing was a disaster too, but it didn't mean either Motorola or Apple had bad brands. Just the implementation of that one phone was poor.
I think Home will do better after Facebook figures out how to dial it back away from 11. But they probably will not be doing custom hardware anytime soon.
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What's powerful about it?... My wife uses it but mostly because her friends are on it.
I love when people answer their own questions.
The GP post said Facebook had "powerful networking effects", which means, as explained by the Wikipedia:
In economics and business, a network effect (also called network externality or demand-side economies of scale) is the effect that one user of a good or service has on the value of that product to other people. When network effect is present, the value of a product or service is dependent on the number of others using it.
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People only use it to catch up on old high school aquaintences to see how fucked up their lives are now they are adults.
Yes, people often forget about the valuable aid to stalking that facebook has become. Any replacement would need to replicate that functionality if nothing else.
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I beg to agree to disagree. Everyone may have it, even the people who say they don't, but from both a capitalistic and consumer perspective it doesn't help the value of Facebook.
For those who have Facebook who wish to not use it do so out of necessity E.G me. I have a Facebook account which is a complete sock puppet (yes against the Terms of Use please ban me I'm so worried) which I use as a developer to create Facebook integration services for my customers', which is hardly ever. My wife uses Facebook to
Does anybody know? (Score:2)
Is it normal for a contract between a carrier and an OEM to be structured such that unsold inventory would be sent back to the OEM?
Logistically, that seems like it would be pretty wasteful(especially since there presumably exists an 'Android-base-build' firmware that HTC put together before adding 'Home' on, so they could push that over the internet and convert the units in the field into perfectly servicable stock-Android handsets, in about the time it takes AT&T sales to sell an overpriced case and in
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Is it normal for a contract between a carrier and an OEM to be structured such that unsold inventory would be sent back to the OEM?
Isn't that pretty much how auto dealerships work?
Re:Does anybody know? (Score:5, Informative)
Is it normal for the carrier to not outright buy the phone until they sell it?
I don't know about phones, but in the distribution world, it is very common for a reseller to not actually buy a product before it is sold.
Many companies these days work on a virtual inventory basis with their primary supply chain. The basic idea is that the seller of the product effectively leases space in the warehouse to the supplier with a contract such that the supplier agrees to maintain a certain amount of virtual inventory. When the seller sells-through a product, they don't actually have to pay for the inventory until the second the unit is "pulled" from this hub and then the supplier bills the seller and is on the hook to replenish this inventory. Of course the seller discontinues that product, then it just never pulls any more units from hub and the supplier is left holding the bag (even though the inventory is in the seller's warehouse). On the sale, the seller often still has "net-90" days to pay for it as well. As you can see, the life of the supplier isn't easy, nowdays they need to pay for both the inventory and the account receivables side...
For the inventory on the shelf there is a similar paradigm, as part of the shelf stocking agreement, a repurchase agreement is made that the seller can require the supplier to purchase back some or all of the inventory (although usually at a discounted rate), if the inventory hasn't been sold in a certain number of days. This type of stock/repurchase agreements happens in industries far and wide, supermarkets to bookseller to electronic's retailers.
The rationale for the seller offering a high repurchase price and percentages is for the seller and supplier to maximise the amount of product on the shelves (to prevent out-of-stock sales loss) given the seller's risk tolerance for the product. Of course the supplier may be irrational, but the seller is covered a bit in this case... Usually the seller says I'll risk $X to stock your product on the shelf and the agreement is structured by the supplier that although $Y of inventory is stocked, $Y - #units X repurchase_price = $X.
Opinion: more Facebook than HTC fault (Score:2)
I really don't see how Facebook can go but down. It's not cool new thing. Everyone capable enough to use it from phone already does it. How many people are there without smartphones and with active Facebook account?
Facebook better learn... (Score:5, Interesting)
...the ONLY reason they have the number of users that they do is because everyone's friends are on Facebook.
People do not like Facebook. They hate the lack of security, the constant changing of format, the increasingly annoying advertising, etc, etc, etc.
One day (and I believe it will be soon), a viable alternative will appear and their collective mass of users will leave practically overnight.
No one loves Facebook. Its not cool. Its just where everyone is hanging until something better comes along.
Re:Facebook better learn... (Score:4, Interesting)
One day (and I believe it will be soon), a viable alternative will appear and their collective mass of users will leave practically overnight.
No one loves Facebook. Its not cool. Its just where everyone is hanging until something better comes along.
I went over to Google+ and have never looked back. All the high school bullshit from 20 years ago that somehow found me on Facebook is now long gone. I honestly hope Facebook stays alive for a while so as to keep all the fuckers I hate from my high school years away from my social networking.
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If high school bullshit found you on Facebook, that is kind of your problem for friending it (and then not un-friending it) in the first place.
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One thing stopped me using Google+ more when it was the rage a couple years ago: lack of an events calendar.
At the time you needed a separate calendar account and then tie it to Plus. I had zero desire to do this. I logged in recently and IIRC this is no longer required, but it was a huge momentum killer among my circle(s) of friends.
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That's funny, because I think that's a huge proportion of what people like from FB. (I'm not saying it's what *I* like from FB, though I have ended up playing Words With Friends with people I knew in high school, indirectly because we were friends on FB.)
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One day (and I believe it will be soon), a viable alternative will appear and their collective mass of users will leave practically overnight.
G+ is a viable alternative. I'm not exactly in love with it, but it works. Like most google stuff it is unnecessarily bandwidth-hungry, but that's pretty much the only thing wrong with it after the real name policy, which doesn't differentiate it from facebook.
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One day (and I believe it will be soon), a viable alternative will appear and their collective mass of users will leave practically overnight.
just like happened to ebay when they jacked their fees up?
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I'm living in a podunk midwestern town at the moment, where it's normal for people in their 20s and 30s not to have a smartphone or even an iPod. Despite never going out besides the gym or groceries, I still managed to overhear a conversation about how the gym owner and another woman hate Facebook and even how the security policies change so often that setting things to private doesn't mean anything. I don't think Facebook comprehend how much reach their dickish behavior has had.
The almost hyper-realism of your anecdote certainly had me convinced. It was almost as though I was there listening to these two non-geeks bitch and whine about security policies and online privacy concerns. I'm surprised they didn't mention their favourite Linux distro and how fucking awesome bitcoins are too.
The most pointless phone ever is a flop (Score:5, Insightful)
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> Mine does not. I have no facebook apps what so ever.
Ditto. But if you are the type of person that uses facebook and would like to access it on your phone you are type of person who already has a smartphone and does just that, therefore there is one to sell this device too.
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> Mine does not. I have no facebook apps what so ever.
Ditto. But if you are the type of person that uses facebook and would like to access it on your phone you are type of person who already has a smartphone and does just that, therefore there is one to sell this device too.
Especially if it is not on the market long enough for many of those people to finish the contract on their current phone :O
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But virtually every single competitor phone out there that anybody would care about *can* do Facebook. Thus, if you care about Facebook, you already have it in your hand.
It doesn't matter if the competitor's products are used that way, it's whether or not they are capable of it. And pretty much any smart phone is 100% FB capable, so no reason at all to buy a "FB Phone". And ask yourself which is worth more: The option of having FB installed on your phone, or the requirement of having it installed?
Never heard of it. Not even on Facebook. (Score:2)
Maybe that's one of the reasons why it flopped?
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Maybe that's one of the reasons why it flopped?
I'm betting you also don't own a TV, and you're itching for some excuse to explain this fact in excruciating detail.
Well, like me, he may own a TV, but either (a) doesn't watch broadcast TV at all, or (b) timeshifts and doesn't watch the commercials, or some combination of (a) and (b).
I've seen articles on the Facebook phone here, on The Register, and (I think) in Yahoo News, but only as articles, not ever as marketing. I don't even know what the desktop looks like. (Of course, I could google it and find out, but I don't care to do that. The Facebook phone is in my mind in the same class as Windows Phone; something I'
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Maybe that's one of the reasons why it flopped?
I'm betting you also don't own a TV, and you're itching for some excuse to explain this fact in excruciating detail.
Well, like me, he may own a TV, but either (a) doesn't watch broadcast TV at all, or (b) timeshifts and doesn't watch the commercials, or some combination of (a) and (b).
Or possibly just for use with video game consoles, DVD/VCR machines, or to output classic arcade games via MAME from a PC onto a larger screen.
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Exactly. The point being, one can own a TV and not sit there watching the off-air feed in real time from beginning of prime time to the 11:00 news, clutching the remote in one's cheeto-powder-encrusted mitts. That's so... seventies. Back when "kill your tv" really meant something, because TV only had three providers of content and so much of it was mindless dreck. Now you get to... well, at least *pick* your mindless dreck.
Blame HTC (Score:4, Funny)
There was a translation problem when the order came in,
"We want a smart, flip-phone" got translated to "We want a smart, flopped-phone".
And boy, did HTC deliver!
Re:Blame HTC (Score:5, Informative)
The phone is actually very good. The hardware that is. If you stripped out Facebook Home you would basically have stock android on it. At .99 cents on contract thats a damn good buy if Cyanogen Mod supported it.
Promo & Hype vs User Needs (Score:2)
People don't get sucked into a "gadget" when they have real needs. Users want a product with a real answer they can RELY on.
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People don't get sucked into a "gadget" when they have real needs. Users want a product with a real answer they can RELY on.
Not an OS. (Score:2)
They might have been better off when sales started taking if they highlighted it's just a launcher on an Android based phone and not a full blown Operating System. The problem was the launcher was optimized to enhance social networking and (from what I hear) wasn't good at working with other Apps.
This is a bad hit for HTC. The specs on the hardware are pretty good, so dumping a re-flash to the feature phone market is going to hurt. I don't think there's been a fail like this snce the MS Kin.
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How long before they're offered as TracFone's for $19.95 with 20 minutes free?
I think you have something there. The "facebook phone" concept was tailor made for prepaid blister-pack impulse buys displayed near the register.
Not surprising in the least (Score:5, Insightful)
Because, really, there was never a 'Facebook' phone in the first place. It was just an annoying app launcher that should never have been bundled with a phone. This also demonstrates the sheer power that the default app launcher has to make or break perfectly fine hardware. Even though the customer can easily replace the launcher, bundling a phone with a messed up launcher basically destroys sales of the phone.
Vendors try to lock people into these sorts of things all the time, it just usually isn't quite so blatant and most people don't even realize that it is happening. Buy a Motorola phone and you get some minor but interesting stuff that is generic but locked into the platform (can't be downloaded and run on other android phones). Same with all vendors, but they have to tread carefully or risk alienating their entire user base. The FB stuff was so in-your-face that even a 5-year-old could turn away from the foul stench.
-Matt
Apple's first foray into cell phones was the ROKR (Score:3)
Apple's first foray into cell phones was the ROKR [wikipedia.org] made in conjunction with Motorola. It was just a rebadged Motorola E398 with the Apple iTunes music store [wikipedia.org] accessible directly from the phone via licensed Apple software. It launched in September 2005.
Apple severely cut motorola off at the knees by soon announcing the iPhone and discontinuing support of the ROKR in September 2006, with the iTunes software being set up and configured to work with the as yet undisclosed iPhone hardware. So even Apple had a m
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Apple's first foray into cell phones was the ROKR [wikipedia.org] made in conjunction with Motorola. It was just a rebadged Motorola E398 with the Apple iTunes music store [wikipedia.org] accessible directly from the phone via licensed Apple software. It launched in September 2005.
Apple severely cut motorola off at the knees by soon announcing the iPhone and discontinuing support of the ROKR in September 2006, with the iTunes software being set up and configured to work with the as yet undisclosed iPhone hardware. So even Apple had a mis-step with Motorola on its first time out on the cell-phone dance floor. Why shouldn't Facebook make a misstep or two? (Not that I condone facebook's existence, the utility of facebook pages, or even any point to checking up on facebook at all. I just have an opinion about 1st generation hardware attempts! ! !)
It's also like the Zune phone. Just when MS started its advertising blitz with ?uestLove a.k.a. Questlove [wikipedia.org], the stores started discounting and discontinuing the damn useless phone and music player.
Your timeline is off - the ROKR was born and died before the iPhone was even announced (which happened in Jan 2007). I think both Moto and Apple knew the ROKR was doomed to failure before it even arrived but kept up for different reasons: Apple was desperate to break into the mobile industry (some say ROKR was Apple's stalking horse), while Moto was feeling the heat from RIMM and PALM feeling their RAZR hit was fading.
Can't this be unlocked, flashed, and repurposed? (Score:2)
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99c without a contract? (Score:2)
Will it be supported ? (Score:2)
They might have only sold 15,000 units but for those that bought them it is their 'phone and many of them will be locked into a 2 year contract. So they will want the 'phone supported by HTC & Facebook for at least 2 years, preferably 4 -- OS upgrades, security/bug fixes, etc.
However I suspect that HTC will not bother. I bought an HTC 'phone, I got one OS upgrade and then they refused to do any more. They had my money so why bother to spend money supporting me ? It would not bring them any more income
Facebook doesn't suck, just in the wrong place (Score:3)
Facebook isn't where users want it to be. We like Facebook in the browser and as an app, but collectively users don't feel it belongs as their shell. Consumers had the same reaction to Chrome OS: phenomenal as a browser, but we're rejecting it as the OS, hence, Chromebook has floundered. Same thing goes for Windows - consumers like it on their desktops and laptops, but so far looks like we don't really want it on a phone and tablets. Same thing for Linux - we flocked to it for server apps, but overall avoided it on our desktops.
It's not that I feel they made a mistake, though. I think it's very worthwhile to bump software experiences up and down the stack to see if there's a better fit. But when consumers reject the positioning, it also makes sense to go back to what works.
Facebook phone had good hardware - RIP. (Score:2)
Shocked. Just shocked to hear this.
Funny thing is, I wonder how many people bought it and immediately discarded the Facebook crap on it. For all it's warts, it was a pretty good phone hardwarewise.
I miss email... (Score:2)
Ok I'm spending all my time on FB but don't .... (Score:2)
Re:The light is on but nobody's home (Score:4, Informative)
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**T-Mobile** Dash
That's where HTC went wrong. I had 3 HTC phone, and I was happy with all 3. All of them were branded as T-Mobile phones.
I'm sure most HTC phone owners have no idea who HTC is.
Re:The light is on but nobody's home (Score:4, Interesting)
[......] has anyone ever had a positive experience with an HTC?
Yes. I used an HTC Desire for two years and never had any problems with it at all. It was the best phone i'd had up to that point by far.When it came to replacing it, the Galaxy S3 only won out over the One X because it had a replaceable battery and an SD card.
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Coming from the G1 and Desire Z, new HTC phones lack a lot of features:
-no replacable battery
-no trackpad
-no SD
-no keyboard
all these features are missing on any "modern" phone, the trend is to make all buttons disappear at the cost of screen real-estate. So when it was time to get a new phone I went for the one with the biggest screen and most of the disappearing features, I went for Samsung.
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My HTC Sensation was my first smartphone, so that may bias me a little. I've moved on to a Note 2 now, but I constantly find myself missing features from Sense 3.5, and bewildered by "features" of Touchwiz (MMS messages as slideshows that you can't zoom in on? WTF Samsung, WTF.)
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I used to roll with a Touch Pro 2, and aside from the horrific memory management that came courtesy of WM6.something, it was an alright device.
LOVED the built in stylus and full keyboard.
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I had a t-mobile g1 and now am using a t-mobile g2. They were both fine. Since all these things are Android the difference is relatively minor. I like Samsung in general as a brand and have been buying their stuff for over a decade, but my tilt currently is that they've currently become the expensive brand. Like Sony was back in the day when they were on top.
That said i don't really understand the phone market. Except for hated Apple who has a decent product lifecycle and longish term support all th
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HTC - Horrible Taiwanese Crap
Seriously has anyone ever had a positive experience with an HTC?
Yes. My first Android phone was the HTC Dream. An excellent little phone (albeit with not quite enough ram), and a much nicer keyboard than any other device I've used. These days I've settled on a Samsung Captivate Glide, but the keyboard isn't as nice, the phone's a little too big and the software support from Samsung is abysmal - I'm still on Gingerbread; they did eventually release an ICS firmware after a very long wait, but it is widely regarded as unusably buggy. The xda-developers community have be
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My first Android phones was a HTC Hero, cracking bit of kit. The wife had a Desire that she loved and converted her to Android too.
Its a shame to see that HTC have lost their way recently, but that doesn't mean that they can't be great again.
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I have an HTC Desire HD since early 2011 and I'm very happy with it (in spite of not having an official upgrade to Android 4... but seriously, who cares, I haven't seen any Android 4-only app I'd like to have at the moment).
The screen is perfect, the phone is responsive, the camera is great, but above all, the default Android configuration and the Sense UI are top notch. I have tried new Sony, Samsung and LG phones and I don't like their UI half as much (Sony's is quite good, Samsung's especially crappy). H
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HTC - Horrible Taiwanese Crap
Seriously has anyone ever had a positive experience with an HTC?
captcha: cellular
My HTC One makes the Samsung Galaxy look like a kid's plastic toy in terms of construction quality. I've no idea why people rate Samsung so highly, their phones look as though they'd disintegrate if you put them down on a table too hard.
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> If my CM ROM bricks the phone I'll be out 99 cents?
I'm assuming 99 cents is just the deposit on a 2 year hire-purchase agreement with mobile service. If you brick your phone you'll still paying for it for the next 2 years and not being able to use the service you are also paying for without forking out the retail price of another phone.
If they really were 99 cents a phone there would be no shortage of people buying them.
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I believe it's called the "sell" button in your stock portfolio. Either that or make something bad happen for them.
I trust Zuckerburg's ego will do that for me.
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A new social networking I'm working on called LifeSpy, it tracks everything about your life and broadcasts it to all your friends.
Found a small lump on your testicles that you fear may be cancer? Thinking of telling your close friends about it? Now there's no need, thanks to LifeSpy we already recorded the conversation you had with your doctor using the phone in your pocket and broadcast it over the whole of the internet for you, whilst also debiting your account for $10,000 a visit to the worst foremost ex
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Should we cue in the "Facebook is dying" jokes?
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Its not dying. But its no longer cool.
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I don't think facebook was ever cool.
He meant 'cool' as in the temperature of a corpse.