Nokia To Release Lumia Case Design Files For 3D Printers 129
another random user sends this news from the BBC:
"Nokia is releasing design files that will let owners use 3D printers to make their own cases for its Lumia phones. Files containing mechanical drawings, case measurements and recommended materials have already been released by the phone maker. Those using the files will be able to create a custom-designed case for the flagship Lumia 820 handset. The project makes Nokia one of the first big electronics firms to seriously back 3D printing."
Sandbenders - (Score:2)
Once again, William Gibson was here first.
Might it have rounded corners? (Score:3, Funny)
Apple fanbois not amused.
Awesome (Score:5, Insightful)
A seriously awesome move by Nokia. True innovators of the smartphone industry.
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Oh, a phone manufacturer does something cool, original, and out-of-character for what has become an "Intellectual property" knife fight to the death and scraping every last cent from the customer that they can? Cool... wait, it runs Windows Phone?
THIS IS A FUCKING TRAVESTY OMG WHINE BITCH COMPLAIN MOAN
I'm going to go back to other sites now, where the commenters are at least just stupid instead of stupid and pointlessly misanthropi
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Oh, wait...
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Slashdefinitions:
real innovator: uses Linux
poison pill: any non-Linux OS
killed: lower profits* than what Slashdot dreamt they would make if they had embraced a Linux-only philosophy
*(note that for companies that do take a Linux-only philosophy, profit is irrelevant, and lack of profit is often blamed on customer idiocy or a M$ conspiracy)
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nokia made a fuckton of money selling windows phones, in fact everyone wants a windows phone, and they are doing well.
windows rt has a giant app store that competes with iOS and android.
Fact: No one ever wants to use windows, peroid. No one ever thought it was cool. They wanted a computer, and it came with the computer, and they thought they had no other choice.
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The only time this wasn't true was around the release of windows 95. Nobody knew how bad it would be and it had new features compared to 3.1 that were worth wanting at the time.
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where do all the anonymous cowards, praising nokia's "windows demise strategy", always come from ? a pr company ?
it is really obvious, you know. maybe try registering a dozen phony accounts or something.
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But you did say oh wait
Re:Awesome (Score:5, Insightful)
because your not looking at the bigger picture.
nokia, as much as 4 years ago, released a wonderful GNU/Linux/X11 phone, the n900, and was hot developing a replacement n950, and n9 phones, which would take linux phones to the next level.
unlocked bootloader, easy to root as installing an app, debian based maemo OS, that was closed to debian than ubuntu, and ran unmolested debian binaries, and shipped with both Qt and GTK libraries which would run existing Qt and GTK apps. Its desktop was open source, and found its way back into debian and other distro repos.
anything that ran on your linux desktop could run, although from a UI/UX standpoint, it was better if you "hildonized", or re-wrote the GUI for a small touch screen, for easiest usage.
Now, after taking microsoftie Steve Elop on board, he shit canned this wonderful project to announce an all windows line up from nokia.
None of us want to run windows phone. windows phones by mandate are locked down, with encryption, so even if you were a windows fanboi looking to take advantage of using a windows phone, like the linux geeks use linux phones, tought shit.
So schematics for a phone casing is nice, but its not unlocked electronics. Its not usefull. Its also in the shadow of a company on the rocks from previously poor decision making that took the products we wanted to buy, and wrecked their company.
On top of this, after a large marketing campaign, much to do, windows phone, along with nokia fails misrably, and they are possibly looking at going out of business. So I don't see many real geeks apt to care.
Re:Awesome (Score:4, Insightful)
nokia, as much as 4 years ago, released a wonderful GNU/Linux/X11 phone, the n900, and was hot developing a replacement n950, and n9 phones, which would take linux phones to the next level.
unlocked bootloader, easy to root as installing an app, debian based maemo OS, that was closed to debian than ubuntu, and ran unmolested debian binaries, and shipped with both Qt and GTK libraries which would run existing Qt and GTK apps. Its desktop was open source, and found its way back into debian and other distro repos.
anything that ran on your linux desktop could run, although from a UI/UX standpoint, it was better if you "hildonized", or re-wrote the GUI for a small touch screen, for easiest usage.
Now, after taking microsoftie Steve Elop on board, he shit canned this wonderful project to announce an all windows line up from nokia.
Except it was more like a death march than a "wonderful project", and it was hopelessly late in what really matters: providing a viable smartphone platform. Running Debian binaries is cool, but it does not by itself bring in revenue.
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if anything the death march was their switch to windows.
But don't let your blind hatred of linux, or GNU distract you from real sales figures, or lack of public intrest.
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um not really, the successor the n9 sold more than their flagship much promoted "lumia 900"
I challenge you to provide a reliable source for this claim.
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But what did Nokia gain by going WP?
Support of a company that knows how to create and maintain a software platform.
Believe me, it was something that Nokia sorely lacked.
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somone mod this +1 funny.
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Sorry to say, your part of the less than 1% of people that care about this. Nokia doesn't want 1%, they want a viable share of the world market. Making phones unlockable is not their priority and having it on Linux doesn't sell more phones than it being MS or Black Berry OS.
I love the fact that they released blue prints for 3d printers. This is without a doubt a marketing move but I have yet to see Apple do the same thing.
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thats laughable. at least with linux, SOMEONE wants the phone.
no one wants windows, period.
yes, maemo/meego sold more phones than windows. FACT.
you can bash linux, open source, innovation all you want, but at the end of the day, Windows is not getting results anymore, because there is vialbe competition that is too large for them to sink via other methods.
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What sells cars? The engine under the hood or the styling, features and marketing?
Your speaking from your point of view (as a techie). Fact and matter is, most users don't even know Android is Linux. They want a working phone. End of story. As users replace their phone, they now have access to 4 viable options.
The fact that MS has increased their mobile phone sales by 10 folds is an indicator of success (NA only). They won't turn the tide overnight but they will find their share of the market. FYI, their ma
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Sorry to say, your part of the less than 1% of people that care about this. Nokia doesn't want 1%, they want a viable share of the world market. Making phones unlockable is not their priority and having it on Linux doesn't sell more phones than it being MS or Black Berry OS.
I love the fact that they released blue prints for 3d printers. This is without a doubt a marketing move but I have yet to see Apple do the same thing.
Though I'm not a fan of "the use it the way we intended, or die a death of 1,000 cuts through our inflexible configuration" mentality of Apple, they do make some awesome decisions when it comes to marketing. For quite some time they have been providing specs on their devices for case designers. I suspect this is to help encourage the whole Apple ecosystem. You can find all the specs over at the Apple Developers Page [apple.com]
A quick search over at The Thingiverse [thingiverse.com] yields many printable cases based on these specs.
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The N900 might have been this neat little device but clearly it sold poorly or Nokia wouldn't have ditched it.
Nokia made the smartest move they possibly could have. Adopt Android as an also-ran and try to compete with the multitude of other phone makers out there, lead by Samsung. Stick with some niche OS that was slipping into obsolescence. Or take a gamble on a maturing OS that actually offers some innovation. Yes, they've partnered with Microsoft, and I realize that inspires a lot of rage here. However,
Um, no. (Score:2)
"The N900 might have been this neat little device but clearly it sold poorly or Nokia wouldn't have ditched it."
Your entire post starts from a false assumption. Actually, it sold really well considering. Some estimates are over 1mm. Here's some substantiation:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/01/how-many-n900-units-has-nokia-sold/ [intomobile.com]
This was a phone with no subsidies, no marketing or advertising, not compatible with anything else...
OK, then of course, the N9 must have been a sales failure, right? Nope.
http://w [quora.com]
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Oh, a phone manufacturer does something cool, original, and out-of-character for what has become an "Intellectual property" knife fight to the death and scraping every last cent from the customer that they can? Cool... wait, it runs Windows Phone?
I think more people here would prefer to have a more open piece of software on the inside rather than the ability to swap shiny cases.
Re:Awesome (Score:4, Insightful)
Cool your jets, buddy. The guy has a point. This case thing is interesting, but it's lipstick on a pig. Why would I want to create a cool new custom 3D printed case for a phone I'd never want to use in the first place?
Fine, the device doesn't interest you, but the concept still might.
Complaining that it's not innovation because now they're 'tainted by evil microsoft' is just two-minutes-hate time.
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No one is saying that.
The complaint is that they killed off Meego to get a couple bucks in a deal that is now killing them. It does not matter if MS or Google or Apple gave them the money, what matters is Nokia is dying from this deal.
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The complaint is that they killed off Meego to get a couple bucks in a deal that is now killing them. It does not matter if MS or Google or Apple gave them the money, what matters is Nokia is dying from this deal.
Why, they seem to have been doing relatively well, judging by the last quarter. And because you have a perverse love for MeeGo (sorry, I'm a survivor) means providing 3D models is a lame move?
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So Apple's specifications wouldn't be in mm, but instead some crazy weird and practically unintelligible unit.
Inches it is.
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Windows Phone 8 will eventually kill Android
Just like how the world ended Dec 21st, 2012.
Disclaimer: I'm a WinPhone user.
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Really so where is that git repository of WinPhone 8?
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It's actually kind of a cool move for a corporation to actually recognize that some people are into making their own accessories or replacement parts.
Unfortunately for Nokia, the intersection between the kinds of people who do 3D printing of their own phone accessories and the kinds of people who buy Lumia's seems quite small.. well, compare this [thingiverse.com] to this [thingiverse.com] or this [thingiverse.com]. Maybe this announcement will help, but I have my doubts. I could Goo
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What nexus devices have removable covers? The Nexus 7 doesn't, dunno about the others though.
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By "something similar", I was thinking device specifications and shape definitions so people could print their own perfectly-fitting cases, holsters, bumpers, docks, car mounts, wallets, etc. People already do this stuff, but having detailed specs would eliminate a lot of guess-work.
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Nexus One and Nexus S had removable back panels for the battery.
If you're going to be awfully generous to the definition of "consumer removable cover", Nexus 7 might qualify because it's possible with a spudger or being super careful with a knife, compared to some other device's insistence on using adhesive, which may or may not soften with applied heat.
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Meh, I don't see having a 3D model as being revolutionary.
Given the poor physical adaptation of materials available for 3D printers & the fact that use of sintered metals would likely diminish the phones reception, anything you could 3D print would be less robust/functional than the original.
OK, it may be neat, but useful?
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its a gimmick, for a company on the verge of going under.
want something real like the ability to run 3rd party apps, or an unlocked bootloader.
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Yes, but a cool gimmick and one I'd like to see more companies offer.
No argument there.
Yeah, it's not going to convince me to buy anything from Nokia either.
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case design is great, but what about an unlocked bootloader or porting meego to this thing.
Its not like you didn't spend millions developing meego.
make a phone geeks want to actually use, then we'll worry about the case later.
Desperate (Score:2, Interesting)
Nokia must be really desperate to try this in order to grow a community for the Lumias. Accessories such as cases are one of the most profitable businesses.
Re:Desperate (Score:5, Insightful)
Nokia must be really desperate to try this in order to grow a community for the Lumias. Accessories such as cases are one of the most profitable businesses.
The phone manufacturers already sell relatively few of the cases for phones and the ones they do sell come at a substantial premium over everyone else's not because they are better (though they are better than most of the knockoffs, some of the knockoffs out there are great) but because they are offered in a shiny package with the manufacturer's name on it. So they get a little goodwill for free (they own the design and they've already paid for it) and they also ensure that more of the knockoff cases for their phone will be decent, which will help improve the perception of their phone in the hands of the masses.
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Isn't it cheaper and easier to get the data from the horses mouth?
https://developer.apple.com/resources/cases/ [apple.com]
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na, they say that the market for 3D printing will be driven by items that are uneconomical to manufacture due to small print runs.. and the Lumia phone is certainly the ideal target for that :)
Lame! (Score:2)
Nokia SUCKS! (sometimes I am known to say the exact opposite of what I mean)
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Nokia SUCKS! (sometimes I am known to say the exact opposite of what I mean)
I understand. You meant to say "Nokia BLOWS!"
"...for the flagship Lumia 820 handset..." (Score:3, Interesting)
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But only available on one carrier (in the US).
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Someone at Nokia is paying attention (Score:3)
Thingiverse recently updated its service to include a "Customizer" app, where users could drop in a bunch of OpenSCAD code and get a customized version of any object already on Thingiverse. The 3D model, anyway. You'd need a 3d printer or a Shapeways account to actually get the physical object.
Within minutes Thingiverse's new "thing" stream was flooded with uncountable variations of iPhone cases.
Good thinking! (Score:5, Funny)
Nokia has sold so few Lumias that the market size for people with 3D printers seems big.
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Then again, the market cap of people with 3D printers is a different story.
Just imagine what you could do with a patterned back shell and a very accurate accelerometer!
Hurray (Score:1, Funny)
just a few years behind (Score:5, Insightful)
Openmoko opened the CAD models of their case (ok, not the coolest case in the world :-) ). People have also modified the design for 3d printing http://blog.slyon.de/3d-printed-gta04-case/ [slyon.de] . There is also a wooden case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_jRI7InTpE [youtube.com]
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Openmoko opened the CAD models of their case (ok, not the coolest case in the world :-) ). People have also modified the design for 3d printing http://blog.slyon.de/3d-printed-gta04-case/ [slyon.de] . There is also a wooden case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_jRI7InTpE [youtube.com]
Not quite the same thing... Nokia's design isn't for a phone case, its for a replacement back panel. The summary on the article is wrong.
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which is what i mean for the openmoko. The casing of the phone, without which you would have a bare motherboard and screen.
So does this actually benefit anyone, or is it PR? (Score:2)
I would wager that most people using Win Phone 8 are ordinary consumers and maybe a few corporate types, neither of which seems like the kind likely to print their own phone case. They would likely buy one at the cell phone store or from Amazon, et al.
The people with the know-how and access to the equipment don't seem like the kinds of people who own a Windows phone, and even if they did and wanted a custom case, they are also skilled enough or have access to the equipment to come up with their own designs
Re:So does this actually benefit anyone, or is it (Score:4, Informative)
There's a shop I walk past everyday where I could go and print something in 3D , a phone case would be perfectly harmless thing and cheap enough to just to try it out. At some point I imagine there will be more printers, both at home and in shops.
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That makes perfect sense for a reasonable chunk of Android and even some iPhone users, but the userbase for Windows Mobile 8 phones is really small, and I doubt the people with the technical sophistication to download a model and print it at even a walk-in 3D place are Windows Mobile 8 users.
Sure, there are some die-hard Windows devs or people with a lot of money who might do this, but it's a vanishingly small group of people.
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That makes perfect sense for a reasonable chunk of Android and even some iPhone users, but the userbase for Windows Mobile 8 phones is really small, and I doubt the people with the technical sophistication to download a model and print it at even a walk-in 3D place are Windows Mobile 8 users.
True, we all breathe through our mouths and haven't been known to download stuff off the intarwebs.
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ahhh, i imagine printcrime ;)
(search for it if you haven't read it)
Could not care less. (Score:2, Insightful)
Even if I had a 3D printer. The cases of most phones are good enough for me. I have not modded my pc either.
But Nokia, want to do something really revolutionary? Give users the power to install their own systems. Lumia with android? Lumia with maemo? Meego? I would buy it at once. Lumia with Windoze? Keep it. Don't want it even for free.
DIY (Score:3)
Shapeways, which is the 3D printing company i have heard mentioned, seems to accept native SolidWorks and Inventor files. For this phone, I estimated the volume based on listed dimensions and estimated that it would cost about $60 to print. I think if you had you own printer it would costs less than $20 in materials. Some places seem to charge based on material and time in printing. That is the thing with 3D printers. They are slow the way inkjet printers were when they first came out. I recall printing a small chess piece when I had access to one and it took a few hours.
One nice thing about using a service is that they presumable will clean up the object prior to shipping. Sometimes the object does not come out of the printer in usable form, and there can be some loss in the clean up process.
Sadness (Score:2, Insightful)
Articles like this make me sad. They remind me that Nokia is still that great, innovative company that they've always been, knocking out great hardware and accomodating every niche.
And yet they insist on loading their devices with the still-born Windows Phone.
What an utter waste of a great company.
I really hope they succeed (Score:2)
Download site? (Score:2)
Does anybody know where the website is to download the CAD/CAM files? Also, do they offer the Lumina 800 so it can work on my MeeGo N9?
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Very cool! (Score:1)
Here's what we need to know about 3D printing (Score:4, Insightful)
Could somebody who actually knows something about 3D printing comment on the suitability of this material for a phone case? How rigid and/or brittle is the material that comes out of a 3D printer? Is it actually going to offer substantial protection to a phone? Is it durable; will it become scratched, warped, or discolored sooner than more conventional materials?
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Meh. ABS is an alright material and it's pretty tough. It's not unlike the stuff cafeteria trays are made out of. A 3D extruded-noodle case will never be as tough as a case made through injection molding due to the inherent sheer weakness between the fused layers. That being said, in my very unscientific and shoddy testing with vice grips, shop scissors and hammers applied to borked pieces, 3D prints are pretty tough to break. A rectangle of say 50x50x5 mm printed with an infill of 50% is surprisingly
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Nokia is dead. ....
Huh? Did I misss something? Who produced my phone then?
Jolla is the actual Nokia.
Ah, ok. Now it makes sense. You mean Jolla is dead. Sad, but I'm afraid true. Anyhow, hopefully Tizen will life.
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Ok, before anyone cries astroturfing: Yes, I work for Nokia, I mentioned it earlier in other posts.
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stephen, didn't expect you here. most visitors around here don't like your decisions, you know...