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An anonymous reader writes "As a follow-up to the story about Verizon being forced to allow tethering, the engineers at Connectify climbed on the roof and made a video showing an 85Mbps download rate through a combination of a tethered Verizon mobile phone and all of the available open Wi-Fi networks. It's a darn shame that they cancelled the unlimited 3G on the Kindle; tether 20 of those bad boys and you could have had a real Internet connection."
Can't use it like one connection (Score:5, Insightful)
You need a node on the internet that can split a single connection and send the data down the separate links. Otherwise those are just 10 separate internet connections that can only be used for separate transfers.
Besides, if you were to use 20 3G connections at a time, you'd see significant slowdown per connection as these are in competition for the shared medium.
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I'm sure Windows supports this as well, all of which is out of the box, with the addition of some settings.
There is no easy way of doing it on Linux. You must be confusing it with interface bonding which binds two or more interfaces in the same local network, this is supported on the kernel for years and recently has been added to network manager. Interface bonding does not work to link two different internet connections.
To use multiple connections on Linux you would need a very complicated setup redirecting all traffic from both connections trough some kind of custom vpn server.
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The add seems to indicate you get a years license for the 'software router'.....
Is this what others are seeing too?
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And the latency does not get any better, which sucks on 3G and 4G.
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There is a big chance that will change in the future though. What do you think of Multi Path TCP ?
short demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWN0ctPi5cw [youtube.com]
Longer presentation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nBaaIoFWU [youtube.com]
IETF WorkGroup:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mptcp/charter/ [ietf.org]
Linux kernel implementation:
http://mptcp.info.ucl.ac.be/ [ucl.ac.be]
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It will, you just have to set up your DHCP server to assign the same IP address to both the MAC address of your wifi interface and wired interface.
I do this on my Macbook Pro. At home I can move seamlessly between Wifi and wired without missing a beat, even mid-transfer.
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In OS X, socket connections are tied to the IP address, not the interface. They also don't automatically close when the interface goes down, like they do under Windows (which is annoying because all your SSH sessions die if there's so much as a burp in your Wifi connection)
This is the way it should be. Shit happens to interfaces, but generally an IP will remain the same unless you physically move to another network.
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Eh separate transfers might be alright if you are accessing different things. I often listen to online radio while I play an online game and download something. Add in roommate's Netflix and you have four separate transfers going not counting any background system stuff that might happen at the same time.
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Sort of, except with multipath TCP, your "command line file download tool" would just be wget. There wouldn't be a need for a separate tool usually for doing multipath transfers aggregating the links. It all happens at a lower level in the TCP/IP stack. Now you could create a multipath aware wget-like tool (mpwget?) that would allow you finer control over the aggregation that would differ from the system default.
Nook (Score:2)
But I still stick with it because I like the 3G. I would rather use my old one with the heavy case and light, then buy a new one without the 3G connection that weighs half as much and has the integral light/color.
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Battery issues? The nook (1st gen at least) had user-replaceable batteries.
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It has battery issues (batteries are always the first thing to go - invent a new one and rule the world).
OK: Ultra Capacitors [wikipedia.org] exist. Very fast charge rate. For the ones made of ceramic and aluminium, using them prolongs their life... Get rid of the artificial scarcity syst --er, I mean patent system, and they might have a chance in the entrenched battery market.
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What would you do if you had a million dollars? (Score:5, Funny)
I'll tell you what I'd do, man: 10 internet connections at the same time, man.
Re:What would you do if you had a million dollars? (Score:4, Funny)
I'd probably have to pay 45% in total taxes, "fees" and "surcharges".
No, at a million dollars the tax rate goes down to 13%.
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No, you have to be so rich that you would never spend the money anyways to get a 13% tax rate.
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Are you arguing for a regressive tax system?
Can't tell if young, naive pseudo-libertarian or just trolling.
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A regressive tax system is so bad for so many obvious reasons that it is unnecessary to refute the argument. But I honestly couldn't tell if he was seriously putting it forward or simply being trollish.
If you think you have a good argument for a regressive tax system, I'm all ears.
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That's not an argument for a regressive tax system, that's an argument for no tax system.
All human interactions should be voluntary.
And I would like a pony. The difference is that my wish is actually feasible.
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icebraining hit the nail on the head in the sibling post. You have put forth an argument for no taxation. And you know what, it's not completely without merit. On the other hand, I think you are confusing "taxes" with "contributions to society".
Go ahead and convinced yourself that society equals government and without taxing the poor we'd all be sitting in the mud banging rocks together instead of shooting to the moon and jacking off to Nature and Science magazines but that's utter bullshit.
There are some examples in history of societies which worked without an explicit taxation system (I'm thinking tribal societies like Native Americans; there may be other examples of more infrastructure-heavy societies that worked without any taxation, but I can't
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I think that the current system is more akin to "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" when it should be "pay for what you use".
There are two problems with this. First, it is extremely difficult to measure how much someone uses. How much do you use a road (this is actually an easy one - per gallon gas tax, all toll roads [might be impractical for surface streets], per mile car registration fees, etc.)? How much do you benefit from the presence of a fire department (even if your house doesn't catch fire, you benefit when they put out the fire down the block)? What about police? How much do you benefit from FDA regulations which
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You have a common sense view of "regulation equals safety equals good"
I would say my view is more nuanced: Some regulations equals a particular level of safety which may be good depending on the costs. I fully realize that a lot of regulations are bad and too costly - for example, the TSA.
You seem to have the view that any regulation equals cost equals bad. The problem with relying on the market in all cases is that 1) there is asymmetrical information (e.g. I don't know what chemicals they are using to frack, so I can't, as a market agent, correctly price natural gas) and
Re:What would you do if you had a million dollars? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, I actually do buy cars based on a calculation of a percentage of income.
The rich paying less percentage tax is just that, them paying less tax than they should be paying. The fact that the number is still higher has no impact.
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But it's not the law, otherwise they would be paying!
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A guy making 100k is not going to buy the car the 10k maker will buy. Why would they? They don't get the same level of service from the government either. The 10k/year earner has no money for the FDIC to protect, no need for police to move vagrants and other riffraff away from property as he owns none, nor does he need the protection of the fire department for his nonexistent property. The lower earner will have far less use for the civil courts as he lacks the capital to engage in lawsuits.
They should be
Re:What would you do if you had a million dollars? (Score:5, Insightful)
Those who benefit the most from society owes society the most.
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I'd just have the local ISP supply me one of their 1Gb/s links.
Re:What would you do if you had a million dollars? (Score:5, Funny)
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I'll tell you what I'd do, man: 10 internet connections at the same time, man.
'cause chicks dig dudes with 10 internet connections at the same time.
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Am I the only one that pictured 10 monitors in a circle, each showing porn, and a swivel chair in the middle?
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And a dude spinning in that chair and doing a 1-man circle jerk?
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depends how you live (Score:2)
If your house is paid off you could live on the interest of a million dollars, even if you were making only 5%. $50K/yr is nothing to sneeze at.
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Christ, if you're single and not extravagant, you could probably live off 5% of $400k
Bring me Google Fiber (Score:3, Insightful)
The reason you need to jump through hoops like this video only underscores how crappy internet service is in the US.
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But even still imagine using Dispatch with TEN Google Fiber connections :)
This technology probably still works outside the US.
you need some point to aggregate to that has a fast link though too. but the tech itself isn't that new idea. what's puzzling about the demo is why they didn't do it with 10 verizon links to achieve something 100mbit+.
you see, if you got wifi in there.. just one decent wifi link to a decent office connection could do that 80mbit/s.
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what's puzzling about the demo is why they didn't do it with 10 verizon links to achieve something 100mbit+.
Wireless doesn't work like that
Re:Bring me Google Fiber (Score:5, Insightful)
>>>how crappy internet service is in the US.
Oh look.
A member of the Entitlement Generation complaining "oh the U.S. is so sucky" while the other 6 billion people live on less than 10 dollars a week. It's like listening to a member of the elite bitch-and-moan that he's only in the top 1% of the wealthiest instead of the 0.1% wealthiest.
FACT: The average U.S. speed is EQUAL to the average EU speed. That's right: Our cousins in the European Union have it No better than we Americans. Sure they have some states that are better, but they also have some crappy states (like Greece, Spain) that are a mere 1-2 Mbit/s.
The only continent-spanning union that is faster is the Russian Federation (+2 Mbit/s faster than EU or US). But the U.S. average is faster than Canada. Faster than Mexico. Faster than China. Faster than Brazil. Faster than Australia. Faster than India.
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Considering the planet only has slightly over 6 billion inhabitants ....
Averages are always meaningless numbers if the sample size is that high.
Who cares what the average bandwith in the USA is, when 50% of the americans have less than 64 killo bandwith?
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It's slightly over seven billion now, actually. 7.034 billion, to be precise.
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Considering the planet only has slightly over 6 billion inhabitants ....
Um... A billion people [worldometers.info] would like to have a word with you and your decades old statistics.
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Dors not matter if I miscount by a billion. As the number of people having a faster internet connection than the average of the US population is far bigger than the total US population. ...
Even in Bangladesh people have 4G mobile internet connections
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Oh look.
A member of the Entitlement Generation complaining "oh the U.S. is so sucky" while the other 6 billion people live on less than 10 dollars a week.
Oh look, a member of the "you have no right to complain about anything" generation. I'm guessing you're a Baby Boomer, that generation that had as children the best mix of right and left ideas, who when they grew up into the political thinkers of the 80's who decided the rest of us weren't entitled to that.
Generational bigotry works both ways.
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No 80s generation. "X". You should be damn lucky we don't have a worldwide government that is a reflection of our American or European governments. The U.S. and EU governments redistribute the wealth from their top 1% down to the bottom by funding 95% of their budgets off that top 1% of earners (and then providing roads, medicare, retirement, welfare, food stamps, airplines, etc).
If a world government existed on this same model the U.S. and EU citizens would be the ones paying 95% of the tax burden, and
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LOL this moron again with his "FACT" statements and no backup. US internet blows chunks, I'll stick with my 10 euro per month, 30MB/s connection rather than move to your little backwater.
Re:Bring me Google Fiber (Score:5, Informative)
Source? I'm in Spain and I could have 50Mbit/s if I switched to ONO. (I can't be bothered: 20Mb/s with Jazztel is good enough for me). Maybe it's 2Mb/s if you average over everyone, including those who choose to live so far out in the sticks that they don't have running water, but I'd like to see the figures.
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That's true in the us too which I think was the point. I'm in the US and can get 300mb. 75+ is fairly available. It's more expensive than in other countries but adjusted to cost of living only a few have it much cheaper
It's still not as good as it could be but...
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It's a rural area; I live about 40 km away from the next large city and 10 km from the next small one. That's far enough out
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That's not so good - about 0.85Mb/s.
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My Source is speedtest.net which tests billions of connections around the globe. There are many areas of the EU, just like the US, that are stuck with slow dialup or ISDN connections. So while I and you mght be able to 50 Mbit/s lines, many people can not, and that drags down the union average.
And yes the U.S. has states that are faster than EU states. If you live in California or Washington or Maryland your average net speed is faster than all 27 EU states except Sweden. So if you have crap internet
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That's funny: their currently available stats [netindex.com] place Spain at 11.65Mb/s, which is an order of magnitude more than you stated. (Greece, at 5.73, is only half an order of magnitude more).
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess than since I'm 44 years old there's a good chance older than you, so don't talk down to me like I'm your junior.
I didn't burn a flag so stop implying things about my political leanings. I only said internet speeds in the US don't fare well against benchmarks from around the world and that's the truth. That will change if Google Fiber goes widespread.
Stop injecting politics into crap that's not political. I'm not alone in being sick of people talk like they're on a c
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>>>cpu6502 who called me an entitlement generation leftist
No I didn't. The word "leftist" is nowhere in my post. Strawman argument.
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I - AM - the original poster.
I was responding to cpu6502 who called me an entitlement generation leftist because I made a statement about bandwidth speeds in the US.
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[citation needed]
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My parents pay a little under 40€ for unlimited phone to 75 countries (landlines) 24/7, 110 channels and 100 Mb Eurodocsis 3 internet connection. Today I reached 80mb/s+ on a real world download - not some speedtest - at their house.
And from what I understand in France the price and services are very similar
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>>>States? is the EU a country now?
On the official European Union website, it uses the word "states" to refer to its members. Not just one but repeatedly.
BTW my Source is speedtest.net which tests billions of connections around the globe. There are many areas of the EU, just like the U.S., that are stuck with slow dialup or ISDN connections. So while I and you mght be able to 50 Mbit/s lines, many people can not, and that drags down the union average.
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That's right: Our cousins in the European Union have it No better than we Americans. Sure they have some states that are better, but they also have some crappy states (like Greece, Spain) that are a mere 1-2 Mbit/s
I am on ONO at Spain paying for the 50mb/5Mb plan, they offered me a month ago a upgrade to 75Mb/5Mb, the price was 1 year permanency more, same money. Just did that quick test for you http://www.speedtest.net/result/2132615837.png [speedtest.net] . ONO its a cable company pretty spread at Spain, so i call bullshit to your "facts" , care to provide any source ?
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Is it so terrible to want more than "average"? (Score:2)
Entitlement Generation? I must have missed the part where the poster said something about expecting it for free.
Even with its flaws, I'm thankful to have a fast Internet connection at all. But it could be much better.
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Sure they have some states that are better, but they also have some crappy states (like Greece, Spain) that are a mere 1-2 Mbit/s.
Wow, wow wow.
Just wow.
FACT: Parent post is full of SH*T
I am Greek and spent 6 years in NY (until 2009). I lived in Brooklyn and in Queens and worked in Manhattan in two locations - Chelsea and Upper West side. In all four locations mentioned, the fastest internet connection you could get was either cable at around $50-$60 for 5Mbps down 384kbps up (useless) or the more decent dsl at 3Mbps down/ 768kbps up for around $40. At the same time, my uncle in a tiny (50 inhabitants) village in a remote Greek island
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Why is this impressive? (Score:5, Interesting)
Ok, so they made a download of 85Mbps, is this impressive due to the speed, or the complexity?
Also, how fast is the Ethernet connection on it's own?
All in all, they hooked up all of these networking cards:
7 USB Wi-Fi Cards
USB 3G Modem
4G Tethered Smartphone
Ethernet Connection
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My Kindle 3G still works (Score:2)
I regularly read facebook or googlemail. I've not noticed it being switched off? I do feel a bit ripped-off though. I bought the 3G version (instead of the cheaper wifi) specifically because the amazon description advertised webbrowsing over the connection. Now suddenly they've taken away that function. (ponder) Maybe if I ask for a store credit, I can return the 3G and get the cheaper wifi instead.
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The free Internet ride is over though: Amazon is now capping use of the browser over 3G at 50 megabytes per month.
However, it’s more likely that Amazon is limiting the 3G connection because of hacks that allow the device to be used as 3G mobile hotspot for free.
likely even faster if not useing USB (Score:2)
likely even faster if not useing USB to link them all.
FINALLY!!! (Score:5, Funny)
On a side note, it always would irk me that Windows XP, if you gave it more than 1 path to the internet, would be unable to get to the internet at all.
New meme? (Score:2)
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"Beowulf connection" has a nice ring to it.
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It needs a legendary name to compete with "Beawolf Cluster", hmm perhaps "Hydra Connection"?
Webramp (Score:4, Interesting)
Pointless (Score:2)
Interesting concept, but I don't see the practical use.
How many times do you need that fast of Internet connection on the go AND have access to several unsecured WiFi hotspots at the same time?
One fast reliable WiFi connection is a simpler solution that accomplishes the same thing.
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It happens all the time when you're out on a boat. Example: http://setsail.com/efficient-versatile-easy-to-use-communications-what-is-the-answer-for-cruisers/
You show up in a new port. There are 6 WiFi stations, 2 of which sort-of kind-of work. There's a weak 3G signal that's fast for a few minutes, then gone for a while. There's a strong 2G signal but it's slow. There's a satellite phone, which is pricey.
A device that can aggregate all of these flaky connections into one reasonably stable data stream is a
smack (Score:2)
Someone needs to smack the twit who tethered his Kindle. As if Amazon wouldn't notice. Many times I've used my Kindle's lousy browser as a backup; if they crank down the usage or eliminate it because of this he needs to hope I never catch him unaware. How hard is it to just use a free bonus service in a device as a free bonus service in the device?
Done that with 4 cable modem. (Score:2)
Give me Gigabit. (Score:1)
Re:Wasn't it limited? (Score:4, Informative)
Nope, the old Kindle's have a rudimentary web browser you can enable in one of the settings menus. Works fine on 3G.
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DX still lets you browse anything you want... it has no WiFi so disabling 3G on it would piss some people off.
Re:Wasn't it limited? (Score:4, Interesting)
Nope, the old Kindle's have a rudimentary web browser you can enable in one of the settings menus. Works fine on 3G.
True enough. On the other hand, my Kindle 3's 3G connection went kaput a few months ago and I haven't missed it. I guess I could have saved some money buying the WiFi-only model back then. In fact, now that I think about it, I connect it to my home WiFi once every two weeks or so, and I'm reading on it all the time. I wonder if my usage pattern is typical.
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When I am at home I connect to WiFi as you say every few weeks. However when I travel abroad it is an indispensable tool giving me access to maps, travel info, reservations etc without having to rely - on sometimes very expensive - local access options.
I consider my kindle 3G the best purchase I have ever made as it has already more than paid itself. Not to mention that I have been reading much more since I got a Kindle.
Although 50MB is enough for the usage I need to get from the browser, congrats to the gu