Eight Major 3G & 4G Networks Tested Nationwide 123
adeelarshad82 writes "Building on last year's efforts, PCMag once again hit the road on a 6,000 mile trip to test out eight 3G and 4G networks to determine which ones were the fastest (and slowest) in 21 different cities. With 10 stops in each city for at least 15 minutes each, the team used custom speed test software on 16 different handsets which ran HTTP upload and download tests every 25 seconds to 3 minutes. The test results were broken down by city as well as region. As expected, Verizon's 4G led the pack. It performed the best in Dallas, where it averaged 15.75 Mbsp and also hit the highest download speed of 37.66 Mbsp. On the other hand, Sprint's 4G results were disappointing; in some cities even AT&T provided better download speeds. Beyond the 4G, T-Mobile's HSPA+ offered blazing fast speeds as well, going as high up as 15.93 Mbsp in Detroit while averaging the best in Dallas at 6.44 Mbps. Amongst the 3G networks, AT&T mostly outperformed all others."
I have less Gs than you (Score:1)
otherwise this would be first post
Verizon's LTE speeds (Score:1)
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Check the latency and you will have no trouble believing you are using a mobile connection. Too bad that with the new tiers LTE is worthless.
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It's not at all worthless. I come in well below 2 gigs (like most users), but I'd certainly love to have web pages and maps load more quickly.
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This is because
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This is true, that does not mean it is down to what we expect of wired connections though.
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that does not mean it is down to what we expect of wired connections though
You're right. It's a complete rip-off and entirely useless until it's as fast a reading from a local disk drive.
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I never suggested such a thing, merely that the latency is not so low that is is not hard to believe it is a mobile connection.
Besides that a nice 10Gb ISCSI connection to 30 15k SAS drives is much faster than most cheap SATA drives.
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As an existing unlimited data plan subscriber I don't have to worry about the tiers. For a while at least.
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Apparently if you have an unlimited plan before 7/7/11, you'll be grandfathered in and won't lose it until you cancel service.
Re:Verizon's LTE speeds (Score:4, Insightful)
True. Latency be damned, when it downloads its fast.
But what I found interesting in the charts is that they more or vindicated AT&T as far from the worst carrier, and
usually second only to T-Mobile in the 3G arena. From the grouse level on the web you would be lead to believe that
AT&T were the slowest and offered no connectivity at all in most place.
With an independent assessment, will any of these carriers change their advertising to avoid false advertising claims.
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THIS! +5
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True. Latency be damned, when it downloads its fast.
But what I found interesting in the charts is that they more or vindicated AT&T as far from the worst carrier, and
usually second only to T-Mobile in the 3G arena. From the grouse level on the web you would be lead to believe that
AT&T were the slowest and offered no connectivity at all in most place.
With an independent assessment, will any of these carriers change their advertising to avoid false advertising claims.
Your take is it was AT&T users that complained the most? I always figured it was iPhone users complaining the most. Not to mention, AT&T did have pretty low availability scores in tests gone by, and they have been dumping all that iLoot they earned from exclusivity into network upgrades (as they should) which seems to have brought the problem under control.
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Million board support packages.
Odd unit... And not particularly practical. Really, how many mobile users have a vxWorks license and are downloading BSPs on the go?
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I thought it was million binary-spaced partitions.
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Mablespoons. It's a measurement of data in liquid form.
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Here in the Pacific Northwest we've all upgraded to entangled electron brain implants for instant lag-free communications.
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Quantum communications -- you're aware of all thoughts simultaneously as they occur. Actually sharing them is no longer necessary.
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They sent in teams last year to both cities, but they quickly went insane from having to listen to all the hippies telling them about their damn urban chicken coops. Several of them never really recovered (one still pisses himself when he hears the word "composting"). They felt it was just safer for everyone to just forgo them this year.
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This is actually important to test (Score:4, Insightful)
When Verizon markets their network as "4G", I expect it to blow away other 3G networks. It's good that it does, and it's also good for PCMag to verify that it does. As a counterexample, Sprint's 4G network wasn't really much faster than AT&T's 3G network.
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Which is why sprint is moving over to LTE in the future.
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Along with AT&T and T-Mobile (especially if they merge. =P)
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I don't think that's the real story. Disclaimer: I used to work for Clearwire.
Clearwire, which is Sprint's 4G provider, is providing WiMAX at about 2.5ghz, whereas Verizon, AT&T and other 3G providers are providing their 3G at much lower frequencies.
Sure, higher frequencies do mean that there are higher theoretical limits to bandwidth, you also need more power to penetrate farther and provide the available actual bandwidth at higher frequencies. I don't know whether or not Clearwire is transmitting at
Cue the Inevitable threads... (Score:5, Insightful)
"This is bunk. In [Insert City], [carrier A] sucks donkey balls. [Carrier B] is much better!"
"Are you joking? [Carrier B] STINKS here in [City C]. I love [Carrier A]! "
"I wish I could just buy a phone that makes calls!"
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We will now proceed to the obligatory 579 posts as follows - "This is bunk. In [Insert City], [carrier A] sucks donkey balls. [Carrier B] is much better!" "Are you joking? [Carrier B] STINKS here in [City C]. I love [Carrier A]! " "I wish I could just buy a phone that makes calls!" ...followed by anecdotes about cell coverage, speed and pricing in Korea.
Pffft.... Clearly you've never used [Carrier F], Otherwise you wouldn't be complaining about [Carrier A] and [Carrier B]
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Won't there be the inevitable threads praising/bashing Apple, praising/bashing Android, threads comparing the two, Nokia advocates bashing both and at least one person each evangelizing for webOS and Windows Phone 7?
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Tell me about it! I tried to call technical support but this ISP is so incompetent that L3!%z]`~C,9_+z=é}~\[NO CARRIER]
What??? (Score:2)
Only old people are still talking about coverage, speed, and pricing in Korea.
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We will now proceed to the obligatory 579 posts as follows -
"This is bunk. In [Insert City], [carrier A] sucks donkey balls. [Carrier B] is much better!"
"Are you joking? [Carrier B] STINKS here in [City C]. I love [Carrier A]! "
"I wish I could just buy a phone that makes calls!" ...followed by anecdotes about cell coverage, speed and pricing in Korea.
All true. But it would have been nice of them to say what cities in CA they tested in, rather than just lumping "the west" together as CA, AZ, NM without stating where they tested. How can I complain that they didn't include my nearest city if they don't even list the cities?
That said, I'm pretty sure I would fall under the "rural America" category anyway, so AT&T it is. Oh, and I don't have a data plan anyway, so I'll just stick to complaining about the price of data plans in general (and I will mostly
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Lesson is I would not use this for anything. I may in the market for 4G broadband service and my plan to to check for nearby antennas to where I am goi
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This is bunk because my city (Denver, CO) was skipped entirely.
You get what you pay for... (Score:1)
I've never seen speeds faster than dialup (Score:1)
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and what kind of iphone do you have? is it jailbroken without the latest baseband?
AT&T is always updating the firmware on their towers and apple is sending out new basebands.
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Settings -> Network -> Enable 3G -> Off.
Didn't know Android made things that complicated. (Punching numbers into the phone app to change device settings? WTF?) My wife has an Atrix, but I've not dug around in it too much.
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1.92 Mbps down, 1.56 Mbps up, 295 ms ping time is what I'm getting from the office right now.
(Setup: iPhone 4, iOS 4.3.2 (jailbroken), AT&T, about a mile or so north of downtown Las Vegas.)
True 4G (Score:1, Redundant)
Because ITU-T was stupid with it (Score:4, Informative)
These new standards like LTE are much, MUCH faster than existing 3G standards. So it makes sense for them to be called something new for marketing sake and for consumer understanding. However ITU-T decided that to be "4G" you had to be much faster than could currently be done.
Well the companies decided to just ignore that, and call the current stuff 4G and I don't blame them at all. I mean with LTE on Verizion you are talking a new frequency band, new encoding, much faster speeds, and you don't want to call that a new generation of wireless?
Standards organizations need to be reasonable with what can be met. Nobody is saying that the current wireless technologies are where we should stop but they are what we can deliver NOW and they are a big step up. Targets shouldn't be set so far advanced. Set that for 5G, or whatever.
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Slippery Slope (Score:2)
Fun fact: In classical rhetoric, "Slippery Slope" is a logical fallacy; it's invocation usually signifies an inability to create a logically convincing chain of events that would lead to the referenced disastrous outcome. In modern form, "slippery slopes" can be logically valid, if a logically consistent (and probable) chain of events is constructed; however, this is rarely satisfactorily performed.
I guess we can let you off the hook, though. I don't think you even proposed an actual slippery slope; you mer
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The biggest problem I see is that the 4G spec requires speeds and such that are impossible with current technology, and the specs don't provide any answer as to how to achieve them. With Wifi, at least b, g, and n specs gave you a definition of how each tech would be used rather than just stating it had to reach these certain speeds.
Well sure - but (Score:5, Funny)
Beyond the 4G, T-Mobile's HSPA+ offered blazing fast speeds as well, going as high up as 15.93 Mbsp in Detroit
Of course the downside is - you have to live in Detroit.
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If anything, 90s Escorts were a great example of how US automakers lost out to importers. The only people that bought US cars then did so for Merkia' even though they were about as American as their rivals. (US Fords now.. some reason, they are actually BETTER overseas. Againk, 90s era. )
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Everything moves faster when it's trying not to get stabbed.
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Woohoo! Go Cleveland [youtube.com]!
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This is an interesting analysis of why the speeds are different, but I'm not quite sure that it makes a terrific difference. Unless Sprint makes some effort to expand their capacity, or it is expected that Verizon will use up their capacity in the next year or so, I don't really why Verizon is faster than Sprint; I just care that it is faster.
Do we have reason to believe that Verizon will use up their capacity? I admit that I am less familiar with their growth trends than you seem to be. If so, that certain
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I think one could make assumptions about it and try and justify.
If Verizon just did a build out, and is unlikely to make huge capital investments for the foreseeable future, it will go down, perhaps Sprint is at equilibrium, or ready to upgrade again.
I think it is unlikely Verizon will grow capacity as fast as customers, causing them to slowly drop, and when AT&T merges with T-Mobile, I imagine TMO is gonna get worse.
Exact Trafic Speed as PRNG (Score:1)
A single 3G/4G modem is not a very good test of throughput speeds because numerous other factors such as phone usage, subscribers in the area, and the not level painting of signals all contribute to the results. As long as there's a connection and a basic returning of a web page most customers will be happy. I wonder if the exact count of bits would be good enough to generate random numbers?
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Theoretically, on a completely empty highway I can achieve speeds in excess of 200mph in a sufficiently powerful car. In practice, most highways will be congested, police officers will be present, the weather may be bad, etc., and I will never be able to go above an average of 60 (in rush hours of many cities, even less). To that effect my compact car is all I really need, and I am more interested in routes to and from work that will avoid congested areas instead of freeways that offer a theoretically hig
Barely Touched the West Coast (Score:1)
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Wanted: EDITORS THAT CAN FUCKING READ (Score:1)
"Mbsp"? Seriously? Is that like a really big tablespoon (tbsp) of data going through the tubes?
FFS, editors: learn to read.
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Mbsp is a new data format. Milton Berles Squared per parsec.
Really revolutionary cutting edge stuff.
How about testing IN BETWEEN the cities? (Score:4, Interesting)
Geez, guys. The whole POINT of wireless is that you can use it anywhere, rather than tethered to a personal access point.
Yet the wireless companies, during the upgrades from analog to digital and voice to voice-plus-data, have abandoned the space between the cities in favor of serving only the concentrated populations wandering around in urban areas. You aren't limited to your hardwired tether. But you ARE tethered to your "coverage area". And even within that, some areas are drastically degraded compared to others.
How about some testing of service ON THE ROAD and otherwise out in the boonies, rather than going cross-country yet measuring only in one big city after another.
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I stopped by the Four Corners monument (I have to say that there's not much to see), and I had to make a phone call to get me out of there, because there was no way to get any map information from the network.
(NOTE: Yes, I know there are applications to download the maps such as MapDroyd and I can also get a GPS do
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A sound business plan, my boy. Let me know how it works out for you.
Mbsp? (Score:2)
Quickly lets do a test for HANDHELDS ONLY (Score:1)
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In Ford Cars? (Score:2)
FTA:
So we sent six drivers on a cross-country road trip in Ford cars with lots of mobile phones and custom software designed by network testing firm Sensorly to see just how fast these 4G Internet connections really are.
Because Fords obviously affect our data rate? Or is product placement so rampet in today's society, that we name-drop in a tech article that is not even remotely related to cars?
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Well, they got good speeds in Detroit. So, obviously, it's related.
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I'm quite sure you can achieve something like this.
If you're standing 2 feet from your cell tower.
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10 times what wired speed?
I have 10Gbps gear here at work, and even at the house 1Gbps. My FIOS connection is 25/25 and if I was willing to pay would go up to 150/150.
You sir, are far behind the times.
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I'm talking about consumers not businesses.
You represent 1% of the nation? I just checked my area and the MAX(FIOS) is 150d/35u which is STILL 6 times slower then what they claim they want for 4G wireless. And I can't even get FIOS, only Comcast which only offers 105d/10u which by a weird coincidence is about 10 times less then the 4G standard... so it seems maybe more likely that your just blowing smoke...
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I'm talking about consumers not businesses.
You represent 1% of the nation? I just checked my area and the MAX(FIOS) is 150d/35u which is STILL 6 times slower then what they claim they want for 4G wireless. And I can't even get FIOS, only Comcast which only offers 105d/10u which by a weird coincidence is about 10 times less then the 4G standard... so it seems maybe more likely that your just blowing smoke...
Yeah umm they're not going to OFFER actual speeds of 1000/150Mbps, that's just what they want the technologies to be capable of. The highest speed I can get on Comcast around here is 50down/15up (or thereabouts) but that doesn't mean that's the highest speed DOCSIS supports.
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