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Brian Eno Releases Second iPhone App 196

Brian Eno, or as he is known to many in my office, "God," has released his second iPhone App. A followup to Bloom, this one is called Trope and supposedly creates darker music. You create music by drawing shapes on the iPhone's screen.
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Brian Eno Releases Second iPhone App

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  • Correction. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by grub ( 11606 ) *

    Brian Eno? God? Please.
    Anyone with a modicum of brain activity knows Lemmy is God! []
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by bonze ( 1578437 )

      I'm not really a rabid Eno fan... but 801 [] was an amazing band.

      (Please excuse me for posting on this ridiculous thread!)

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        I second this. I do like Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy, but his last (non-ambient)album and those awful Coldplay and U2 albums he helped produce really just make me want to listen to old 801 stuff.... As a matter of fact, I am going to put on TKN from 801 Live right now...
    • No more douchebagervisement tag?
  • by Absolut187 ( 816431 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @12:56PM (#29493079) Homepage

    We really need a slashvertisement section

  • Link Warning! (Score:5, Informative)

    by 0100010001010011 ( 652467 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @12:59PM (#29493127)

    The "Trope" link goes directly to the iTunes Store.

    Which means if you have iTunes installed, but it isn't open, it launches. Thanks Mr Taco.

    10x worse than a PDF link.

    • Re:Link Warning! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by AndrewNeo ( 979708 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:35PM (#29493625) Homepage

      You're the one who installed iTunes...

      • Because it's the best program (that I've found) for windows that actually does daap correctly and doesn't look horrible.

        So when I OpenVPN home I can stream my music from home.

        So if you'd like to offer any alternatives that don't look like shit, I'm open to suggestions.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by jaymz2k4 ( 790806 )

          that actually does daap correctly and doesn't look horrible

          what, you mean the closed, propeitary protocol [] developed by apple for iTunes? what a shock.

        • Good job shooting yourself in the foot. Bought a product, started a thread complaining about it. Then continued by complaining that no other program replaces the fake functionality created by the LOCK-IN you are trapped in. I'm sure you were amused when iTunes updates install browsers and if you ever try to leave remember that ipod updates will still fuck up the interaction with non itunes aps until they fix it.

          Suggestion? Get out now! Leave every apple product you can while you still have the chance. If y
          • I started a thread complaining that the link in the summary launched iTunes.

            By all means. Please suggest an alternative to what I want done:

            Streaming music server.
            Works with a client on OS X, client on Windows. Server on Linux.
            Works with XBMC.
            Automatically reads my m3u playlists that I have created.
            Has the option for 'smart' playlists. "Artist=%&Year>1985".

            Right now firefly and iTunes scratch that itch. I don't even have an iPod. I tried the daap plugin for Winamp, that didn't work. I tried some bast

            • by Unoti ( 731964 )

              ... shit... fucking... slashdot... fucking... fucking... high horse... complaint...

              Goodness! Someone's got a case of the Mondays! The problem here is that iTunes blows. There's some nice things about it, but there are some highly annoying corporate overlord types of things to not like, too. Reasonable people can probably agree that it does some nice things, but it also is invasive and bloated.

              • Congratulations. You didn't answer the question.

                Bloated or not. It, along with firefly, do what I want. Any more red herrings?

          • by RulerOf ( 975607 )

            Leave every apple product you can while you still have the chance.


            I ran my iPhone over with my car and installed Windows on all my Macs.

            ...or did you have something else in mind?? Oh shii--

      • Yeah, but that doesn't mean he wants it opened when he clicks links on the /. front page.

    • by dingen ( 958134 )

      10x worse than a PDF link.

      Why is a link to a PDF-document worse than a link to say an HTML-document? Seems there is little difference between the two to me.

      • 10x worse than a PDF link.

        Why is a link to a PDF-document worse than a link to say an HTML-document?

        Because Adobe, provider of the software most often associated to read pdfs, has taken to the unholy combination of embedding into browsers to auto-view PDFs, and bloating the shit out of said software, resulting in an extended wait as the crapware loads itself up, then loads the PDF, then waits more while it figures out how to display it.

        • Foxit reader.

          I have saved you an estimated 3 years of your life.

        • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

          Only if you are not smart enough to install foxit or another PDF reader.

          Hell you can get "speedupadobereader" app that strips out most of the useless plugins that makes reader launch 3X faster and use 1/2 the ram.

      • Uhh PDFs are 4~5x as big as html files. The load speed is probably 30x or more. For a complex webpage it takes a webpage under a half second to load. A similar pdf may take 12 seconds. That is with foxit reader not adobe. With adobe the most common reader likely 20seconds or more (Haven't used it in years). If you count that as a small difference I'd have to disagree with you. PDFs are worthless shit like FLAK files (the only compression technique I've seen make files bigger than wavs).
        • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

          BADLY MADE ones are and if you fairly add in the file size of the JPG and PNG files that are loaded with the HTML.

          A properly designed PDF is not any larger than a HTML+image files.

          Sadly, most PDF's are not created properly

          • So there is a bias of incompetence against PDFs? I think not, I think the format is to blame. BTW for the size comparison I was checking forms with no images.
    • by MrMr ( 219533 )
      wow, if only we had some way of controlling what our computer does and what software runs on it.
      Perhaps you shouldn't have bought that cheap read-only harddisk.
  • Please. Everyone knows that Edgar Froese [] is the one true God of electronic music.
  • News? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Slash.Poop ( 1088395 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:01PM (#29493161) Homepage
    Mod me all you want but is this news?
    • Re:News? (Score:5, Funny)

      by Yvan256 ( 722131 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:53PM (#29493869) Homepage Journal

      News about new iPhone apps?

      There's a website for that.

    • Re:News? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Blue Stone ( 582566 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @02:10PM (#29494145) Homepage Journal

      It's news if you're a fan of Brian, not so much if you're not. Since I AM ... it's news to me ... I was under the impression that his newest app was something called AIR ( [] ) and didn't know about this release.

      Since I'm not a fan of Apple, its over-priced, locked-in and locked-down douchebaggery, though ... it's all no use to me, except to wish i could get Bloom, Trope and AIR for my PC.

      It has to be said, though that Eno's definitely nerd-newsworthy in himself; his involvement in the Long Now foundation, his interest in cybernetics - generative methods of creating art and music - all seem fairly relevant. (Not to mention his awesome music).

      Much of the discussion in this thread seems very similar to what I used to hear from my friends when I was younger, regarding my appreciation of the Eno, though (my friends were a little politer in their dismissiveness, but the sentiment was the same). It's really worth remembering to reign in the fanboism, Rob! XD

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by sammy baby ( 14909 )

        I was under the impression that his newest app was something called AIR ( [] ) and didn't know about this release.

        Kinda - Air was created by Peter Chilvers (who co-authored the application Bloom with Eno) and vocalist Sandra O'Neill. Brian Eno is credited because the app is "based on concepts" he created, but I don't think he was directly involved at all.

        Didn't care for Air, by the way. Bloom is definitely nicer. I'll check out Trope

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by sootman ( 158191 )

        It has to be said, though that Eno's definitely nerd-newsworthy in himself; his involvement in the Long Now foundation, his interest in cybernetics - generative methods of creating art and music - all seem fairly relevant.

        Plus he composed the Windows 95 startup sound! [] :-)

  • by nimbius ( 983462 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:03PM (#29493193) Homepage
    but fuck Brian Eno. this is not news for nerds its advertisement for mall zombies and douchebags.
    • by rho ( 6063 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @02:15PM (#29494215) Homepage Journal

      This is where the so-called Slashdot "editors" actually do some "editing". Slashdot always was "What Rob Malda Thinks Is Cool," so I'm not bothered by stuff like this. Editors help to establish a publication's flavor, and part of Slashdot's flavor is Brian Eno and The Who.

      I just wish they'd also take on the editor's duty to unfuck some of the more idiotic summaries as well.

  • Who is Brian Eno? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Rick Richardson ( 87058 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:06PM (#29493223) Homepage

    Who is Brian Eno?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Jack9 ( 11421 )

      Brian Eno is a "well known" (in circles that might possibly care), experimental musician. In short, nobody.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        I suppose, if you overlook all the work he has done producing other people's stuff (David Bowie, U2, Talking Heads, Devo , Depeche Mode, etc.). I think he gets more props as a producer than as a musician.
        • by LWATCDR ( 28044 )

          But he is nobody's hero.
          A hero.
          Saves a drowning child
          Cures a wasting disease
          a Hero...lands the crippled airplane
          Solves great mysteries

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Yet he's still done much many many more important things than you*, so I guess that makes you less than nobody.

        *e.g., pretty much created the genre called ambient music; being largely responsible for some of David Bowie's best albums; both producing mega-sellers by bands such as U2 and adding a completely unique touch to lesser-known but highly-regarded albums such as Nico's The End. I definitely don't think he's god -- he's not even on my radar as far as favorite musicians -- but you're either a fool or a

    • God. It's in the freakin summary...that's worse than not RTFAing...damn 5-digit newbie.
    • You haven't read Atlas Shrugged?

      • "According to a 1991 survey by the Library of Congress and the Book of the Month Club, Atlas Shrugged was second to the Bible as the book that made most difference in American readers' lives."

        OK. I have not read "Atlas Shrugged". But I will.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by chartreuse ( 16508 )

          I'd rather not be responsible for causing you to read that Roach Motel of a book. Just that you reminded me of the incantatory line from AS, "Who is John Galt?"

          Please, read the Illuminatus! Trilogy instead, or Iain M Banks, or Charles Stross' Singularity Sky, or Ken MacLeod's The Stone Canal, anything that has a sense of joy in it instead of an ex-totalitarian's exaltation of order. Maybe I'm just doing the universe's work, and my offhand remark is meant somehow to change your life despite my beliefs, and

          • I wouldn't say AS is a roach motel of a book. The story is pretty good, and you don't have to buy into her entire philosophy to get some positive take aways from the book (don't mooch off other peoples hard work, work hard yourself, be responsible for yourself, stick to your ideals and don't sell out etc...).

            That said, her dialog is lacking at times and she can get quite wordy. Some of the monologues in the book are so extremely long that I wonder if her editor actually edited anything.

            I found The Fountai

    • The guy who has designed the Windows 95 startup sound.

    • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *
      Yeah no kidding, I want to know what office this guy works in were everyone has not only heard of Brain Eno, but considers him a god too. I used to be a music geek and even I barely recognized the name (and only because he produced some U2 albums).
      • Yeah no kidding, I want to know what office this guy works in were everyone has not only heard of Brain Eno

        I think there is a generational gap phenomena here. Electronic music geeks from my generation know Brian Eno, as in "OMFG Its Brian Fucking Eno!!!" - You probably also havent heard of Tangerine Dream, as in "OMFG Its Tangerine Fucking Dream!!!"

        • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *
          Tangerine Dream is a lot more well-known than Brian Eno. They did a ton of well-known movie soundtracks in the 80's.
    • Here you go. []

  • he may not be god... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    ... but I saw his lecture last night on art and creativity "An evening with Brian Eno" and Long Beach State, and it was GREAT!

    He tied art in with evolution and Copernicus, but mostly screwdrivers and haircuts.

    A very well thought out, organized talk. I highly recommend it if you get the chance.

    I also saw his digital kalaidscope "77 million paintings"

    At the end he mentioned trope, but said it was more about the visual than his previous app.

  • by wandazulu ( 265281 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:34PM (#29493605)

    I agree that this really smacks of straight-up advertising, but I will say that Bloom really is a pretty cool app; my kids love playing with it to the point that I can't ever use the phone for, you know, making phone calls.

    Calling Brian Eno god may also rub people the wrong way, for a lot of reasons. I will say that he has quite a significant body of amazing work. Personally, my favorite is "Apollo: Atmospheres and Soundtracks".

  • Eno? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Yvan256 ( 722131 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @01:58PM (#29493973) Homepage Journal

    I don't care about his music but his antiacid [] works pretty good.

  • Maybe I'm just different, but I think any man that made the windows 3.1 tada.wav sucks. It's like how Bob Dylan ruined himself for a decade of fans at Live Aid in the 1980s. Some things,you just don't do.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Brian Eno, an English musician [insert Wikipedia link], recently released a new iPhone App. This new app, called Trope [insert link to story], is a followup to the popular Bloom [insert /. link to previous story], which allows users to create music by drawing shapes on their iPhones. Trope promises to bring darker music to your iPhone, and is available on the iTunes store [insert app store link]. This has been very exciting news around the office, as many here consider Brian Eno's works to be great.

    There, n

  • 1: Tens of thousands of iPhone apps.
    2: Get free geek advertising on Slashdot by claiming another new app is "News".
    3: PROFIT!
  • Why are people slamming Eno on here? That surprises me. Are you guys really familiar with his work? If you don't at least have Here Come the Warm Jets or Taking Tiger Mountain and some of his ambient works, you aren't qualified to comment. Having used Windows 95 is not enough. His work is generally agreed upon to be substantially innovative and influential and I was happy to see it on Slashdot.
  • by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @03:09PM (#29495013)
    So what we have here is the modern digital Theremin. Why not have just said that from the beginning?

    I just hope this guy isn't also a German spy who is stealing secrets off of your iPhone while you're playing with his toy.
  • by neo ( 4625 ) on Monday September 21, 2009 @04:49PM (#29496323)

    Sigh, bloom is/was better. This is ok, but honestly it's just the same thing without any real innovation as far as I can tell. Great, I can use a square or a triangle or a star to draw lines around... blah.

    Nothing new here, move along.

  • No, no, no. Eno is not God. The correct form of worship, as promulgated back a few decades, went like this:

    "If Fripp is God, then Eno is Jesus."

    Geez... get it RIGHT, people, otherwise you just come off as mindless fanatics!

  • Bought it, and frankly, it sucks. Bloom was great, but IMHO the new one sounds like shit. Don't waste your money.

I've noticed several design suggestions in your code.