Using Your BlackBerry As a Modem On Linux 135
ruphus13 writes "Now, the suits and the geeks can unite — Barry allows BlackBerrys to serve as modems for Linux machines. From the news post, 'Barry, created by open source software vendor Net Direct, lets you not only sync your contacts and calendar but also use your smartphone as a computer modem. Sure, it's not as fast as T1 or cable, but you can't beat it if you're stuck somewhere with no Internet access. Currently, there are packages available for Ubuntu, Debian, Mandriva, and Fedora (although syncing is not supported on Fedora 9). Most older BlackBerrys work just fine with Barry, but the newest generation of devices — the Storm and Bold — are not yet fully supported.'"
Is this really news. (Score:3, Insightful)
I have done this with Mac OS X and a little Samsung Sync. Years ago, for phones that allow you to put software on it. There really isn't much stopping you from doing this.
Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for years (Score:4, Insightful)
Linux? How about CBM Basic! (Score:1, Funny)
I plugged a rectangular modulator/demodulator thingy into my Commodore 64, then attached that to the telephone jack in the wall! We didn't HAVE a cell phone in those days!
Now get off my lawn!
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Yours had a phone jack?
I had to dial the number, and then set the handset into the acoustic coupler. I still don't believe in all this wireless stuff. If I can't see the wire, I don't believe it's connected! How do I know I'm talking to the other person on the end of the wire, and not an impersonator. If my wife were to call me and ask for a gallon of milk, who's to say it's not a KGB agent trying to lure me to kill me and destroy our American way of life. You know those d
Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (Score:5, Informative)
Bluetooth to my cell is a saviour in low-service areas where I can't find a quick access point.
I've been doing this for quite some time as well, although some of the new usb-attached modems from local cell service providers are very nice (and work with Linux).
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I used to do that with my old T-Mobile phone, but now I just have a Sprint PCI-E mini card built in. It's a hell of a lot more convenient than using a tethered phone.
I wrote up a script that uses traceroute to determine whether or not I have Internet connectivity via 802.11 or my wired Ethernet jack, and if not, it automatically connects the Sprint card. When I have 802.11 connectivity it traceroutes to the nearest Google box every 30 seconds or so and if it notices that I'm not going out through Sprint (ya
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Try it on Linux. They probably show up as /dev/devttyACM# . Or I think that's what it showed for the last time I tried it with a USB phone. You could use it as an EVDO modem, and even send/receive SMS directly with it.
Of course, blackberrys aren't recognized automatically.
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Re:Is this really news. (Score:5, Informative)
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You did it on Linux five years ago?
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Also, in response to Lord Jester's question, I have to say that as I think back, I'm not certain that this procedure worked on Linux - I may have only used Windows with the Blackberry "modem." I apologize if my comment was misleading about the OS.
Re:Is this really news. Yes -- Old News. (Score:2)
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Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (Score:2, Informative)
Most corporate comms policies I have seen where Blackberries are given strictly forbid the use of work mobile phones as modems for their laptops, because data charges are so high.
One of the reasons RIM carved such a niche in corporate phones/PDAs is the "eat as much as you want" (more or less) email access; surfing the net via GSM/TDMA/3G/UMTS is not part of the deal, and billed by your provider as data by the Kb or minute.
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What corporations are getting Blackberries w/out unlimited data plans?
Anyways, I've been tethering my BB with Linux for a while now just using Bluetooth (no special drivers needed). It's slow, but faster than dialup.
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Obviously quite a few, because I know several Blackberry owners and clearly unlimited data is just not a priority for any people outside of 24/7 tech support...
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Forgot to mention. Verizon will kick you if you do Phone as Modem.
Since Verizon has a higher-priced plan that specifically allows you to tether your Blackberry, while the cheaper plan you were paying for specifically forbids it, you not only violated their TOS, you did so in a way that very directly takes money away from them. It's no surprise they kicked you off.
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It's no surprise they kicked you off.
Only because they are a company with atrocious customer service. A smart company would have a salesperson call the customer and try to sell them the more expensive plan before canceling the contract.
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Worse. They are evil as well as incompetent.
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Verizon is evil, no doubt, but Sprint is much more evil by far.
I pay 85 per month for 3g web access and phone-as-modem tethering. Unlimited access. The trick is you have to call them and specifically request those two... when I went into a Sprint store, I was explicitly told that they would not under any circumstances give me both unlimited 3g net access and tethering.
Until the nice guy at the call center added the info to my account. Then I got my phone how I wanted. Soma FM while cruising down I-95 is the best.
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Soma FM while cruising down I-95 is the best.
Wow. What bitrate can you stream down?
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What corporations are getting Blackberries w/out unlimited data plans?
Many blackberry "unlimited" data plans only include unlimited data destined-to and originating-from the blackberry itself. Data incurred when using it as a tethered modem is usually excluded from the unlimited bb data plan.
The rationale is that you can really only consume so much bandwidth with the BB itself. After all, its primary an email device with some modest multimedia capabilities. So they can give you "unlimited data" and the limi
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Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (Score:4, Interesting)
They have lots and lots of money.
Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (Score:5, Informative)
They have lots and lots of money.
Sorry, but how can this comment be modded +3 Insightful?
Better mod this one +5 Informative:
"The Universe is very big!"
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"The Universe is very big!"
You know, you might be on to something here - I'd really never looked at the universe in quite that way before. Mod parent insightful! :)
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Satisfied?
Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (Score:4, Informative)
I just got a Storm with an All-you-can-eat(but don't go over 5 GB/month or else!) data plan, but I think it explicitly excepts using it as a modem.
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While traveling, I signed up for the tethering plan on a Samsung Glyde. It was expensive, but when I was in an EVDO with at least one or two bars, I had no trouble consisently getting ~680Kbps down.
I have to admit, their network really is better. My brother picked up an iPhone and the voice quality sucks and he's constantly dropping calls. My wife also has AT&T and doesn't have the voice quality issues, but still has dead spots and dropped calls.
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They charge $9.00 extra for Exchange access? Or $9.00 extra for BlackBerry connectivity to Exchange?
Exchange ActiveSync support (with a compatible phone) only requires access to the Exchange server via http or https. Compatible d
No Filtering by Telecoms on corporate blackberry (Score:2)
I work for a telecoms, and they are handicapped because traffic is encrypted all the way to your corporate BES (Business Enterprise Server). They don't know what they hell you are doing on a blackberry, running a VoIP client or simply browsing. They can not do tiered charging or DPI. No tiered internet either. booohoohoo.
This is also why BlackBerry is such a corporate hit. Privacy is pretty much guaranteed over the wireless channel.
Now now, before you go to that porn site, your BES server admins can do pret
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I have yet to see any internet filtering on AT&T (after four and a half years) - even on their consumer plans.
What do you mean by saying that Verizon and T-Mobile block dialup and fax use? CSD is an extra feature that actually requires modems to
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Not worth it... (Score:2)
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Surfing from my Nokia 3G phone using it as a modem gets me about 512kbps which is reasonable - about 64KB/s which means most web pages render in less than 10 secs...
Outside of 3G coverage it's painful though. In any case, on a Blackberry you can already install GMail, Opera Mini & you have corp email... not bad.
The rest of the functionality (sync, charging, etc) seems way more interesting. Most hotels & cafes offer free or inexpensive Wifi anyway if you need your fix.
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Tethering a BB on Windows was exceedingly difficult...
Huh. Worked flawlessly for me. And Blackberry support was just outstanding, talked me through the setup step-by-step and didnt even talk down to me. Now as long as my phone is within 10' Bluetooth range it will connect via BT and dial-up if no other network connections are available.
I just got a Dell Mini9 with Ubuntu (and love it) but really wanted the same BT modem capabilities. I cant wait to try this 'Barry' thingy out!
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cygwin...
SLOW VERY SLOW (Score:1)
My crackberry 7520 is about a third the speed of dialup, with much higher latency..
can't picture using this as a modem.
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Also, this IS dialup, it just isn't v.92 56k dialup.
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That is a bummer. On the other hand, the number of times I've paid oingo boingo (or somesuch) $7 for just a few minutes of WiFi at an airport to sync my Outlook in/outboxes during a layover, the bar isn't very high.
On the other other hand, as soon as somebody sends me a 7MB powerpoint attachment, I would be hosed.
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Yeah, if I'm roaming in the US, my provider charges me 8 dollars a meg for traffic.
My regular plan includes 25 meg a month, believe it's 8 dollars a meg over that as well.
Uhm... (Score:2)
modload usbnet
dhclient usb0
???
Welcome to the 21st century (Score:5, Insightful)
9 years late, we can welcome RIM to the new millenium.
Seriously, most geeks will have used cell phones as modems for years. I certainly did it back in the last millennium. In the old days, IR was the way to connect. Then when you got fed up trying to keep the phone pointed at the computer you got a cable.
Bluetooth replaced all that nonsense. And, today, we have software that turns your phone into a Wireless access point, allowing you to share your connection with the entire room.
Here's hoping I never have a job that forces me to give all that up for a Blackberry!
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Uhhh, this is just Linux. Blackberries have been tetherable since lord knows when, but it's been windows only.
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Likewise.
And why is it not as fast as cable.? 3G over here in europe can be used with a variety of laptop/phone combinations and is really quite snappy.
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I've been using my Blackberry as a modem for a long time, both with Windows and OSX, and both over Bluetooth and USB.
So this appears to be a purely Linux thing. This shouldn't just pertain to Blackberry, but pretty much any phone that can act as a modem. The Razr makes a decent modem, again over Bluetooth or USB.
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Ok except for the cost (Score:3, Informative)
I tried to do this with my Pearl when we went on vacation. Thought I could use my laptop on the trip when we wanted to find where to go, etc.
First roadblock is the cost. I pay $30 for my Blackberry data plan, can browse the internet... unlimited data they say. Except if you want to tether it to a computer that is another $30.
Then half way through the trip it just plain stopped working. I had to "reboot" the Pearl to correct the problem, where rebooting means pulling the battery out.
Otherwise I actually felt the speeds were decent, faster than dialup... probably 120k/sec, and this was over old-school GSM(not 3G).
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Old Skool GSM is 9.6kbps, aligned with the fax standard. Anything above that is something else (maybe UTMS?)
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You must be on AT&T. I have the same setup (BB Pearl, AT&T) and you are also limited to 5GB of data on their "unlimited" plans, whether via the phone's browser or tethering. They advertise on the main web page and in print ads that it's unlimited data, then when you actually read the EULA before confirming the purchase it's listed as limited to 5GB.
Granted, I doubt I'll ever use 5GB either in-phone or tethered (I don't download big files on the go) but it's something they should put out there in the
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Not practical... (Score:3, Interesting)
This just isn't really practical. I just came back from a trip in Central America, and Internet access was easier to find than land or cell phone service. I have a feeling it's that way in lots of developing countries. My phone was useless. There were very very few land lines, but I could hop on one of many computers at hostels or Internet cafes and check my email.
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As it is now, you are probably right, but I think that landlines will go away as new technologies emerge.
As far as TV is concerned: in Germany the remote parts were scheduled first for DVB-T, if I remember correctly. In remote areas it can be cheaper to just put a few antennas up than to upgrade the cable/telephone connection of every single farm.
A lot also depends on the dataplans available. In Germany competition is doing its work nicely at the moment: decent "unlimited" 10 GB dataplans for UMTS-modems ar
USB Charging? (Score:2)
My eee has always been able to do this without any software, anyone else?
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You probably had the module preinstalled? Or did you do a clean install?
My blackberry (8320) will not charge on my Ubuntu laptop. It won't charge on Windows before installing the drivers either. I found bpowerd for linux before this article, but I haven't got around to installing it, since the binaries are only for 7.10 and 8.04 and I usually charge from a wall socket anyway.
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I have a BlackBerry Curve (business) and RAZR (personal) that both charge via USB. I've never had a problem getting either to charge under Linux, but doing so from Windows requires installing the Mororola/RIM drivers first.
I just make my life easy and stick with Linux.
Tethering with the Curve is pretty simple over bluetooth, though not as simple as the USB WWAN dongle that's available now.
Other phones too ? (Score:2)
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One word: VirtualBox.
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Samsung Blackjack II (Score:2)
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Until recently, I was using a Treo 650 and Bluetooth tethering. PPP is used to set up and tear down the connection, same as if you were still using a dialup connection. It was a pain to set up on Linux at first, but once set up, it was easy to connect and disconnect.
I'm now using a jailbroken iPhone 3G and PdaNet to tether over WiFi; if PdaNet used infrastructure mode instead of ad-hoc mode, it'd be
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In my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience with it so far, it's handled every sort of traffic I've thrown at it. The only bit of weirdness is that links at Multiply [multiply.com] often don't load on the first try, but a refresh gets it working. Web browsing, mail reading (over IMAPS), and SSH all work. That covers pretty much everything I do on a regular basis (I tunnel SMTP and VNC traffic through SSH).
You menti
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Since your iPhone (or whatever device you're using to run PdaNet) is acting as a router, inbound UDP traffic to your computer gets blocked the same as it would if you put something like a WRT54GL or an old PC running LRP between your net connection and your computer.
This isn't accurate, normal NAT "routing" generally works at layer 3 and works irrespective of which transport protocol you are using. Actually I'm currently sitting behind a "WRT54GL" and passing traffic over a UDP openvpn tunnel. The connection provided by pdanet is some form of TCP proxy which, at least when I tried it, didn't seem to allow any sort of openvpn-like udp traffic.
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I've been doing this without Barry... (Score:2, Informative)
I've been doing this with my Curve 8320 without Barry for some time now, via blueZ and rfcomm under Gentoo on my laptop. It's relatively stable and has enough bandwidth for casual web surfing. I was able to get up to 20KBps down / 11KBps up over EDGE.
Call me when cellphones can act as p2p modems (Score:1)
It would be news when I can send data and text messages over my unlimited (on nights & weekends) voice connection when I don't want to exceed my unnecessarily limited [slashdot.org] data quota.
LinuxGuides for BlackBerrys (Score:2)
USB aircard faster? (Score:2)
Also back in october? I heard at&t's ceo said they will be offering
Nokia does it just fine (Score:2)
A word of caution (Score:2)
For AT&T customers in the US with 'unlimited' data plans, this is very likely against the terms of service [att.com]. As long as you keep data usage light, you'll probably be fine - but if you start doing massive downloads and they look closer, your service may get terminated.
From the link:
Prohibited and permissable uses
... Furthermore, plans(unless specifically designated for tethering usage) cannot be used for any applications that tether the device (through use of, including without limitation, connection kits, other phone/PDA-to computer accessories, Bluetooth® or any other wireless technology) to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for any purpose
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Get one for Ozzy (Score:1)
Good way to get booted from your provider (Score:2, Informative)
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Huh? Then why does Verizon offer a tethered modem option? If I pay for that, they'd better expect me to use it.
I've used a BB8830 with VZ service for a year with no problems.
I've been using a BB8820 with AT&T service for a month. It's much slower that VZ's service, but VZ wasn't that fast anyway.
The biggest thing I had to do was edit the init strings in F9, but I had to do that even in Windows for AT&T.
Pathetic ... (Score:2)
Case in point : My Nokia E61i was really good about it. Here are the steps : 1) plug into Ubuntu, 2) surf web. No drivers to download, no configuration needed, it just works.
Nice. :\ (Score:3, Informative)
Well, this was a nice article.
It obliquely credits my own article on the same topic - written a whole one day previously - while describing it as a 'review' of Barry. No, it isn't. It's a guide to the exact same topic covered in this article, only it's a hell of a lot more useful, because my article tells you exactly what packages to download for what distributions, and how to actually use them. Rather than just saying "oh, look, this application lets you do this, isn't it cool?"
Would've been a lot more useful to link to me. But then, my server probably can't take the load, so I should be thankful. :)
http://www.happyassassin.net/blackberry-tethering-and-more-on-linux/ [happyassassin.net]
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Nonetheless someone, somewhere, gets a hardon just thinking about it and absolutely cannot go on unless he finds a way to do it.
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Yes, but a girl's gotta have her standards, Chris.
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