The Complete History of RIM 94
museumpeace writes "I enjoyed reading Alex Frankel's thorough Tech. Review article on the luck, persistence and shrewdness that took RIM's proprietary mobile e-mail technology from presumed small niche product to the must-have blackberry that so many use today. Although the technology at the heart of the product was developed in 1989, it took years of further development, the lucky break of GPRS supplanting Mobitex, and the business smarts to jump on their first-mover advantage and the daring to partner with giant Nokia who could have swallowed RIM. Its a great example of how to succeed by carefully making a defacto standard out of a good proprietary technology."
You'd think (Score:5, Funny)
All this talk of mobile RIMming and Nokia swallowing RIM just sounds a bit icky.
Not to mention... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Not to mention... (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:You'd think (Score:1, Funny)
Before RIM really hit the big time, my company had a chance encounter with them, and ended up getting a job to do some e-commerce programming for them. The project involved about two months of them trying to figure out just what they wanted to do, and me trying to keep up with the constant scope changes. After all that hassle, I handed over a working script to them, which they...promptly deployed into production, right?
Heh, I wish. As far as I know, they ended
Re:You'd think (Score:2)
Heh, I wish. As far as I know, they ended up not even using it. Still paid us for the work, but didn't use even one line of it
Don't be silly, I'm sure they reused at least #!/usr/bin/perl
Re:You'd think (Score:1)
Re:You'd think (Score:2, Funny)
Re:You'd think (Score:2)
Blackberry used by so many (Score:1, Insightful)
Marketing hype taking over slashdot.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:2)
Or maybe this is marketing hype after all. We do seem to be getting a lot of that lately. Slashdot editors trying to earn some extra cash, perahps?
Its fine (Score:2)
I mean, the technology is interesting, but from an enterprise standpoint, I have a problem with it being "yet another system to set up and maintain". Since the whole thing is proprietary, its not like you can run it from either open sourced stuff or even popular stuff like MS Exchange.
From an end user standpoint, it appears to me like 2-way paging, except that it acts like e-mail. Maybe it resonates with users because it is like a pager. Personally
Re:Its fine (Score:2)
Re:Its fine (Score:2)
Uhhhh...what? I hope you are not suggesting that it doesn't work with Exchange. It fully integrates with Exchange (this was the first mail server it was built for).
And as for set up, really it's
- Make an an account with x permissions
- Install the server software
- Add user to the server
- Connect BlackBerry to the desktop to register with the mail server.
- DONE!
Re:Its fine (Score:3, Insightful)
Ideally, the blackberry should look like every other email user in the world out there.
In other words, the middleware (the toll bridge) that blackberry has built is, in my opinion, superfluous. It forces the infrastructure to treat users differently based on the type of end device.
What I'd rather see is the blackberry use existing protocols (Secure IMAP? POP via secure tunnel?)
I'm not blaming blackberry I like th
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:3, Insightful)
The tech crowd want something like the Treo that can do everything.
The business professional just wants rock solid and secure email. And the BlackBerry offers them that.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:3, Insightful)
The thing that really struck me about the blackberry was it's size. The bulk of the Treo took a little getting used to for me, but that blackberry was huge.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:2)
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:3, Informative)
You know you're sitting in a room of "very important bureaucrats" because you see them checking their email during meetings.
The ostensible reason they're so popular is during 9/11, cellphones didn't work, but Blackberries worked fine.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:2)
Also has the ability to use S/MIME underneath the 3DES so that when it's travelling on the regular internet traffic, it's still encrypted.
(and yes, I know, you can do S/MIME with the Treo also)
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:1)
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:3, Interesting)
Blackberry has not been sold to geeks - it has primary sold to executives and traditional professionals like doctors and lawyers. It's on the radar for geeks because RIM is selling the hell out of Enterprise Servers - which get stuck in the data center.
Personally, I've owned treos, PocketPC phones, and even kyocera smartphones. Nothing comes close to the user experience with BlackBerry - but they coul
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:2)
The BlackBerry also runs MIDlets, which you can write with no fees. As a bonus, MIDlets also work on hundreds of other mobile phones.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:2)
However, it's true that they could use an open-source community.
Regards
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:1)
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:3, Insightful)
I saw one up close once.. damn fugly with a tiny qwerty keyboard & mmonochrome display.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:1)
The thing that I hate is that the browser on it kinda stinks. I mean, it's great for the mobile targeted sites, I can order movie tickets, etc..
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:1)
I work in DC.
Blackberries are all over the place here. On a downtown Metro platform, at rush hour at least 3-5 will be visible at any given time.
I administer a Blackberry Enterprise Server. The ubiquitous, strong, transparent encryption, wireless wipe/reprovisioning and underground (Metrorail) coverage from Verizon makes the devices very popular here.
Re:Blackberry used by so many (Score:1)
In my company (gotta keep the details light...), probably 1 in 3 people have a blackberry, and its been that way for some time. (of course if you buy one and can claim you need it for 'business' the company pays for it, so why shoudln't everyone? but i digress)
Several members of our current management team actualy got hired as result of a decision our CEO made while on a hunting trip with his blackberry. He was out stalking deer, but the offer we made got sent
So are RIM good guys? (Score:2, Funny)
I know M$ is bad and GNU/Linux good beyond that I get a cluster headache.
Article Text (Score:2, Informative)
The BlackBerry was the
Re:Article Text (Score:1)
"coördination of wired and unwired penis."
I know now what you guys mean by the amount of sexual innuendos in that article :)
How about a partnership with Microsoft? (Score:1, Offtopic)
(muhahahaha!)
My brief encouner with them (Score:5, Interesting)
They didn't have the "killer app" for it at the time, but were very much in the mode of "let's be smart and figure out a good application for this technology." While that approach can often be puttnig the cart before the horse, they persisted, and it obviously paid off, hitting the sweet spot of using the lower speed bandwidth for the two-way pager-like always-on-but-not-quite-fully-online BlackBerry.
It really is a rare and excellent example of finding the right killer app for a given (and flexible, but seeming limited) technology. Having the technical wherewithal to put that in a small pager-like device (several years ago), obviously shows some real technical talents in their company, too.
Re:My brief encouner with them (Score:2)
Doesn't this make them evil (Score:3, Insightful)
I thought that we were shunning this approach at standards wrangling? Whenever MS or Sony tries this we are against it what is different this time?
Re:Doesn't this make them evil (Score:1)
Re:Doesn't this make them evil (Score:2)
The difference is that we like the Blackberry, but we don't like Windows or the Memory Stick. We just babble about standards wrangling because it makes our biases sound like they're based within objective reason.
I'll give you an example: Tabs in Mozilla. Good! Tabs in IE. BAD!
And how did that first job work out? (Score:1)
Odd. In 1988, I worked for a company Vipco/Magic Sign that had a project to design and make networked LED display signs for GM factories... I forget if we were handed a spec to match or what. It sounds like GM moved on to another supplier after a few years. Is RIM padding their résum
Re:Economic Side of Blackberry (Score:2)
Re:Economic Side of Blackberry (Score:2)
One plan for WAP service
Another plan for text messaging
Another plan for sending images
Another plan for sending video
Another plan for blackberries
Another plan for PC Card wireless modems
And yet guess what? They all use the EXACT same network resources! The only difference is the device or use.
I really wish they would just stop confusing consumers and just have one cellphon
Re:Economic Side of Blackberry (Score:2)
The expensive bit is the dedicated server needed to run it. They don't use IMAP or POP or even MS Exchange protocols.. they use some kind of proprietary mail protocol and that has to be licensed from the company that makes them. I'm not sure how much but when it was being cost
Microsoft could learn a thing or two... (Score:3, Interesting)
They're like Tivo (Score:5, Insightful)
It's the same thing as Tivo. You don't realize how nice the Tivo is until you try the cable company's DVR. Sure, it accomplishes the task, but it's more painful.
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:2)
The Treo was the nicer looking device and had the better display, but its pretty-looking keyboard was horrid to type on, and the user interface for web forms was clunky at best.
The Blackberry really is the best device on the market right now, with the possible exception of the T-Mobile Sidekick, which I have. Unfortunately, the Sidekick relies on T-Mobile's rather questionable network, and that limi
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:3, Interesting)
Then again, I had the same impression of the Treo keyboard until I had spent a few days with it. After a few months, I'm pretty much at the "touch typing" point on the Treo. I'm reasonably fast, and only need to look at the keyboard for puncuation.
As for the blackberry being the best on the ma
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:1)
The BlackBerry Internet Service (which is what gets sold to Joe Sixpack when he goes into the store to buy one) is designed to integrate external accounts (up to 10) seamlessly and with zero hassle.
Server-side changes are only required if you want to use their special server software, which provides native integration wi
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:2)
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:2)
That's worked just fine for me so far.
D
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:2)
Actually, they are made in Waterloo Ontario (that's up here in Canada eh)....about 500 meters or so from the main core of the campus.
Re:They're like Tivo (Score:2)
But companies are buying it for the email.. (Score:3, Insightful)
The thing to keep in mind is that most of the Blackberries being sold are to companies, and that they are buying them primarily for the email (and possibly cell phone/direct connect) functions, not as PDA's.
The Treo may be a better PDA, but the Blackberry is a great email device. With Enterprise Server it's easy to set up and manage, and it's pretty intuitive to use.
We've started getting some Blackberries at the college where I work, as sort of a pilot program. I recently got a Blackberry 7220 (Nexte
Re:But companies are buying it for the email.. (Score:1)
Sure, but now I've got to carry both my PDA that work wants me to use with the goddamned "email only" unit (that still does email half-asseed well). Give me one unit that can do both, can run the apps we've already developed for Palm, and has a decent cell phone on it. A blackberry and a PDA are just too much bulk to carry around, as both need a decent screen size to be remotely useful.
Re:Nokia 9000 Communicator (Score:2)
That agreement was announced in 2002.
The 9500 came out last year, and the 9300 came out this year... neither support the blackberry protocol, so neither can steal any market from the blackberry.
Remember, the whole reason companies use the blackberry is for encrypted over-the-air pushed email.
That said... I would LOVE to see the 9x00 support the blackberry protocol (as mentioned here [slashdot.org], but for unknown reasons moderated "Troll") and would buy one in a second (with my own money) to get rid of the awkward bla
I hate the Blackberry (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I hate the Blackberry (Score:2)
And if you take a look...it's the same company that makes the sync software for the Palm as for the BlackBerry.
Duplicated calendar entries is usually because of incorrect permissions (note, I said usually, not always).
Re:I hate the Blackberry (Score:1)
Re:I hate the Blackberry (Score:1)
Every issue I have brought to RIMs attention has been resolved and the techs have been happy to give detailed explanations of everything I've thought to ask them.
Too bad... (Score:1, Troll)
It's too bad they have such an unbalanced feel, and such a PITA keyboard.
Yes, I have one for work (for several months now), and I absolutely hate it.
The user interface needs a lot of work.
The balance is very top-heavy, making it very awkward to type on and hold at the same time. For a comparison, the way you hold a Sidekick/HipTop is extremely comfortable due to the overhang beside the keyboard and the c/g near the center of the keyboard - they're a breeze to type on very quickly and you can perform any f
Re:Too bad... (Score:2)
OK, so I should have RTFA first.
So if Nokia has already licensed the tech (years ago), where the heck are the devices?
As far as I've read, none of the Nokia 9x00 Communicator series (9210, 9290, 9500 [nokia.com], 9300 [nokia.com]) support the blackberry protocol... if they did I would already own one. (clue to Nokia)
If anyone at Danger [danger.com] is reading this: Please take your form-factor and license the blackberry communication protocol... expand your target market beyond teenagers (you'll find a tremendous number of people in the IT f
Misinformation... (Score:1)
This is just plain incorrect. The 2/3 inch shipping manual and PDFs on the handheld CD weren't enough? The first match from a basic search like "blackberry user manual" on Google was too hard to type? Or was blackberry.c
Re:Misinformation... (Score:2)
What mine came with was a pamphlet, no manual of any kind was enclosed in the box. The included CD had only outdated drivers that I was told not to use (we had to download new drivers from the website). I looked around on their website a bit, and asked our resident blackberry specialist - he said they don't have anything more than what's in the box online.
If you had actually read the article you would know that roughly half of it details RIMs plans to do just that.
I did read the article after I wrote th
Re:Too bad... (Score:2)
http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgecenterpublic/l i velink.exe?func=ll&objId=8533&objAction=browse&sor t=name [blackberry.com]
or do you mean from T-Mobile?
http://support.t-mobile.com/productSelector.html?f ormFlow=manufacturerForm&selectProductManufacturer =_77ab8903-1df5-43fc-93f3-7aef59a35ba2 [t-mobile.com]
Which manual do you want?
Waterloo (Score:1)
rim 950: the coolest thumb-typing device ever? (Score:1)
nice hardware (Score:2)
Their competition at the time was the Motorola Pagewriter, which was crappy hardware with even worse software. It was dog slow, and you had to use their weird programming language whi