D-Link's USB-Powered Access Point 206
Roger Ryder writes "D-Link announced the AirPlus G DWL-G730AP Wireless Pocket Router/AP, a pocket Access Point for travelers. It can be powered by a USB cable and works as an 802.11g access point, client or router. A 3-way configuration switch on the bottom of the unit changes the mode of operation. In AP mode, the DWL-G730AP can be used to create a wireless network in a room where a single Ethernet port is provided. In Router mode, it can be used to share a single broadband Internet connection. The internal DHCP server automatically assigns IP addresses to ensure everyone in the room can connect to the Internet. It supports VPN Pass-through and firewall features including Network Address Translation (NAT) and MAC filtering to protect your wireless network from malicious attacks. When set in Wireless Client mode, the device allows connection to an existing wireless network, without having to install complicated drivers or additional software. For added mobility, the DWL-G730AP can be powered over USB if power outlets are not available. Similar devices are available from ASUS, SMC, Apple's AirPort Express and Netgear."
Is that a router in your pocket (Score:3, Funny)
Again? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Again? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Again? (Score:2)
if it were a review for a new type of product or had something truly unique and was fresh then it would be newsworthy.
or would you like to see cheapo nic's reviews on slashdot as well?(well, actually some that really did test performance would be quite useful..)
Re:Again? (Score:2)
Re:Again? (Score:5, Insightful)
Every day I get people walking into my office asking me advice about technology I personally haven't had a chance to play around with. An article like this gives me a shot to read about a cool new product that I probably wouldn't have thought to look up until a day or so before I was leaving for a trip. Dunno, I don't mind having articles posted that give out info on new tech. that has unique features.
Re:Again? (Score:2, Insightful)
What is the big deal about USB power? It doesn't free you from being attached to the wall. And, if I want to share my wired conne
Re:Again? (Score:2)
Re:Again? (Score:5, Informative)
No one is complaining about the product posting; everyone is complaining about the lack of a story. We could all go find five hundred products that might be worth a glance, and post it to Slashdot. But "stories" like this increase the noise-to-info ratio greatly. Instead, the submitter (or michael himself) could have searched a bit for a review on the product. If none were available, perhaps the poster could have bought one, reviewed it, and posted a story to the review. At least it would provide independent and useful information about the product, rather than PR/marketing info from DLink.
Re:Again? (Score:2)
Your post confuses me. I read your (broken) link [macsense.com] (HTML isn't hard -- try it!) and it seems that "any number" is, well, one. And, unless you mean drivers (which the Airpad requires, but the new D-Link device does not,) I don't understand what software has to do with it.
Most importantly, the product you linked to requires a computer to be connected to the ethernet port, upon which drivers muct be installed, and into which the Airpad connec
Wireless Internet - Just add a wire! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wireless Internet - Just add a wire! (Score:5, Informative)
also, if you have adjoing rooms with someone travelling with you on a business trip, you can share a connection if they 1-charge for a connection per day or 2-one or the other jack is out of service.
Re:Wireless Internet - Just add a wire! (Score:3, Interesting)
Wrong - You Become an ISP (Score:2, Redundant)
1. Get a USB wireless hub
2. Pay for WLAN access at Starbucks
3. Get a seat at Starbucks and resell cheap WLAN access to other guests
4. And the
New way to war drive? (Score:4, Interesting)
Hang out for an hour, record the packets, go home and extract email passwords, etc...
This would probably work in an apartment complex, etc as well
Re:New way to war drive? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:New way to war drive? (Score:2)
Re:New way to war drive? (Score:2)
Yeah. Man-in-the-middle attacks, DNS spoofing, probably a few others.... Well, your laptop could do DNS spoofing by spoofing the source address... but not reliably. With an AP, it no longer requires taking advantage of a race condition. :-)
Re:New way to war drive? (Score:2)
Now I'm not supposing most people would want to set up linux with the hostap driver, and configure their routing, etc. But with some slick Windows-based software, you could do the same thing in a more user-friendly way. Hey, they could even charge double the normal price for the pcmcia WIFI card, and call it a "special access point" card or something.
D-Link catching up (Score:5, Interesting)
I recently bought a D-Link 802.11g+ card. The loaf at Best Buy expressed doubts about whether D-Link's 108Mbps "protocol" (compression, etc on regular g) would work with Netgear's 108Mbps protocol and he suggested I buy the same company's brand for the entire network.
Naturally, I ignored him. It works fine.
If D-Link can keep making devices that perform reliably and interact correctly with those of other manufacturers, I say "Great!"
Re:D-Link catching up (Score:3, Informative)
It's my understanding that they achieve (in theory) 108 Mbps by taking up two channels that don't interfere with each other and running 54Mbps over each channel.
Re:D-Link catching up (Score:2)
Re:D-Link catching up (Score:2)
Re:D-Link catching up (Score:2)
Thanks for the laugh!
Been there, done that. (Score:2, Interesting)
Might appeal to PHBs without the necessary 'mad skillz', though, but these are hardly Slashdot's target audience.
Re:Been there, done that. (Score:4, Informative)
Well, you can use 802.11g instead of just b, you don't have to tie up a computer as a dedicated access point, you don't have to have kernel source lying around to install it, and it probably uses less power and generates less noise than a computer.
I like hostAP, but its not the easiest or best solution in all circumstsances.
-jim
Re:Been there, done that. (Score:2)
In fact, for small LAN requirements, I just use a 802.11b ad hoc configuration: I just need to give the win/linux clients a static IP/mask/DNS and let my laptop be the NAT router/firewall with a DSL connection to the net. All you need is the wireless tools packages that you have already installed to try out wifi.
Not as neat a package as the AirPort Express (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not as neat a package as the AirPort Express (Score:2)
It's going to be tethered to something - either your internet connection (next to a plug) or to your computer (next to a usb port).
It's not for everybody, for every use. But it is likely to be a commercial success.
-Adam
Re:Not as neat a package as the AirPort Express (Score:2)
Examples of such devices include Audrey [audreyhacking.com] [audreyhacking.com], ReplayTV [digitalnetworksna.com] [digitalnetworksna.com], TiVO [tivo.com] [tivo.com], Xbox with network connector [xbox.com] [xbox.com], or playstation2 with network connector [playstation2.com] [playstation2.com] just to list
You can't link to the Apple Store like that. (Score:4, Informative)
Aircraft LAN parties! (Score:5, Funny)
The fact that this could also screw up plane communications and positioning equipment is irrevelant. No one ever uses that stuff anyway...
Re:Aircraft LAN parties! (Score:2)
Most people know how to turn their cell phones off when asked by the crew, but does anyone really know how to shut down that built-in wireless card? On many computers it is difficult to even see that it is on (Thinkpad G40) and it is enabled by default. To disable you have to go deep into Device Manager, or to play with Wireless settings.
So chances are when you are flying, lots of passengers have 802.11 u
It's not that bad people (Score:2, Interesting)
Laptop Battery (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Laptop Battery (Score:2)
Except that in my case it would go down from 35 minutes to about 3 1/2...
Time to upgrade my laptop I guess...
free alternative- use your existing wifi adapter (Score:5, Informative)
Re:free alternative- use your existing wifi adapte (Score:2)
Re:free alternative- use your existing wifi adapte (Score:2)
in ad-hoc mode, and with ICS (internet connection sharing) enabled, you should be able to bridge the adapters easily..
At one of my job sites, we have a cable modem that goes into a dell low end server- this has a second ethernet card connected to a hub, which shares a lan with two other PC's..
I have had them previously set up as bridged connections and ICS sharing enabled, and all three pc's had web access (the owner
Re:free alternative- use your existing wifi adapte (Score:2)
If you're using a Prism-type chipset, you can either use hostap [epitest.fi] (for 802.11b) or the Prism54 [prism54.org] drivers (for 802.11g) to run your card in "Master" (AP) mode. Instant linux-based AP.
I play with this off and on with my laptop and the high-powered SMC-2532W-B card, which can take an external antenna. Crank up Apache, set up BIND to return the laptop's wifi IP address to every query, and away I go (hey, wifi isn't JUST for The Internet(tm) after all). Or if I feel the need I can bridge to a wired connection, b
built in Airport (Score:4, Informative)
1. the mobile hub feature can be useful. traveling with two powerbooks, my wife and i frequently use a single network access (dialup, ethernet) in hotels, sharing it from one machine over ad hoc wlan
2. well, with a powerbook (or stationary mac with airport card), you get this option built in, without any hassle with a separate device or dlls from hell...
(please insert your apple rant here:... thanks.)
Re:built in Airport (Score:2)
i also have a thing about d-link equipment, namely that it's pretty pants normally.
Re:built in Airport (Score:2)
a more useful idea (Score:4, Interesting)
I don't know how much power you can safely draw over Ethernet. Maybe it's not enough. But it would be cool if it worked.
Re:a more useful idea (Score:2)
The pinout for ethernet connection has grounds, and transmits and receive lines, lacking a Vcc supply. USB, PS/2 and serial have GND and +5v to supply some juice the the device.
Re:a more useful idea (Score:2)
See this diagram [poweroverethernet.com].
802.3af requires upgraded equipment which is currently rare. Therefore my question: how much load can you put on the rx pair without degrading the signal or hurting the other machine? Probably not very much, but
Re:a more useful idea (Score:2)
No you can't. Read your own link:
Since Ethernet pairs are transformer coupled at each end, it is possible to apply DC power to the center tap of the isolation transformer without upsetting the data transfer. In this mode of operation the pair on pins 3 and 6 and the pair on pins 1 and 2 can be of either polarity.
You'd need an ethernet jack that puts pow
Re:a more useful idea (Score:2)
you can just modify a client and make it draw power from the hub/switch/jack.
Can you? That's what I was originally asking. I don't think you can get much power that way. But anyhow, that's not how PoE works; it requries a modified hub/switch, or at least a separate unit to supply the DC voltage.
Re:a more useful idea (Score:2)
POE -- power over ethernet -- is used in quite a few wireless routers/aps/... . There's even a spec for it. I think 12 volts works well, though that's from memory. In most cases, that's enough to run most devices that use a power brick. The typical use for POE is to power remote APs without having to run a power cord.
The upper limit? I don't know...though if you give your 5v dev
Re:a more useful idea (Score:2)
This being USB powered means I can route my ehternet connection to my USB AP, and share a connection.
A Knoppix CD provides a secure OS and browser. (Score:4, Informative)
Probably the best way to connect securely when traveling cheaply is to boot a cyber cafe computer from a Knoppix CD. That way you can be certain there are no keystroke recorders installed by some previous user. Basically, you will want to check your bank accounts and get your email from a web-based client. So Knoppix gives you everything you need: an OS and a browser.
There might still be a problem with a hardware-based keystroke recorder, but that level of expertise is unlikely, I think. A thief who could do that could get a good job, and wouldn't need to be a thief.
Re:A Knoppix CD provides a secure OS and browser. (Score:2)
Re:A Knoppix CD provides a secure OS and browser. (Score:2)
Re:A Knoppix CD provides a secure OS and browser. (Score:5, Funny)
Hire me, please! [keyghost.com]
Re:A Knoppix CD provides a secure OS and browser. (Score:2, Informative)
There might still be a problem with a hardware-based keystroke recorder, but that level of expertise is unlikely, I think. A thief who could do that could get a good job, and wouldn't need to be a thief.
I don't think it takes much skill to use a hardware based like this one [yahoo.com]. For those of you too lazy to look at the page, it has nice step-by-step install instructions: unplug keyboard, plug recorder into keyboard port, plug keyboard into recorder. Yeah, lots of skill and expertise needed there.
Re:A Knoppix CD provides a secure OS and browser. (Score:2)
If there is a problem, it isn't KeyGhost. (Score:3, Informative)
From the KeyGhost installation instructions [keyghost.com]: "To install the KeyGhost, all you need to do is plug it in between your keyboard cable and your computer."
Obviously, these require no expertise to install. Obviously, also, you would look for these on any computer you used.
It might be good to carry one of those laptop-size USB keyboards, and use it instead of the cyber cafe keyboard. That would guard against keystroke loggers inside the keyboard. USB keyboards install automatically; there is no need to de
Still think Airport Express has this thing beat (Score:3, Interesting)
That extra couple dollars is worth the design.
OT: D-Link 514 experiences? (Score:2)
Re:OT: D-Link 514 experiences? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:OT: D-Link 514 experiences? (Score:2)
Airplane approved? (Score:2, Interesting)
Or it would be useful for simple impromptu networking for a quick and dirty network situations where power is at a premium (like a natural disaster). Granted, that wouldn't involve Internet access, but a s
Re:Airplane approved? (Score:2)
They proposed installing waveguides around the cabin of the airplane. It would be too complex to surround only airplane equipment that would be affected.
You all have waveguides in your house in your microwave. Go to your microwave and look in the door, see the metal grate with a pattern of holes? That's a waveguide specifically made to protect your face
You know.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:You know.. (Score:5, Funny)
When did they start letting the newbies post?
how much does it cost for a /. ad? (Score:3, Funny)
Umm peer to peer? (Score:5, Insightful)
All the examples of "I could have used this when..." could easily have been solved by simply setting your wireless cards into peer mode and making an ad hoc wireless network. This is quick and easy with every network client app I have seen; does no one use this feature or what?
Why is this device any better than just bridging your ethernet to your wireless peer network?
Re:Umm peer to peer? (Score:3, Informative)
It doesn't require a PC or Mac, needs no drivers, and so can provide connectivity to devices such as Audrey [audreyhacking.com], ReplayTV [digitalnetworksna.com], TiVO [tivo.com], Xbox with network connector [xbox.com], or playstation2 with network connector [playstation2.com].
Re:Umm peer to peer? (Score:2)
Again, despite the article title (which seems to have thrown everyone off,) USB-power isn't the primary feature of this device. Apple's airpad has it. But what Apple's airpad and the other devices mentioned don't have is the driverless, computerless option.
Stick with whateve you want. But
Airport Express link (Score:2)
so that explains it (Score:2)
How about a modem? (Score:2, Interesting)
Guess the graphite Airport keeps travelling!
virus attack (Score:2)
Then a friend said the kit may have suffered from some sort of 'virus attack' which kills the kit's memory or something similar and that d-link is very well aware of this 'i
But is it really USB powered? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm debating either getting a small lightweight UPS around 300VA or if I'm better off cutting up some USB device or cable and wiring in a 4AA holder to put batteries in.
WRT54G (Score:2, Interesting)
I bought myself a WRT54G Router (about $60) for a similar purpose. After uploaded 3rd party firmware [linksysinfo.com] It has a similar functionality (no USB).
They both can be an access point, client or router.
The WRT54G is bigger, needs power, but hooks up to your computer via Ethernet and requires no driver.
I wanted a wireless client that did not use my CPU for a controller and did not taint the kernel. The WRT54G does a great job.
oh no, here we go (Score:2)
EverythingUSB.com (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.everythingusb.com/ [everythingusb.com]
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Why a hardware switch??? (Score:2)
Shoulda been a software selection on an internal webpage, or maybe (heaven forbid, as this is another point of failure), a membrane pushbutton.
Can this be an Ethernet to Wireless Bridge? (Score:2)
I can, however, run Virtual PC on my laptop, and have full control over my Ethernet NIC settings from a virtual machine...
So I'd like to use something like the D-Link DWL-810+ (Ethernet to Wireless Bridge) for mobile wireless usage, but I would like it to be USB powered so I don't need to plug it in.
Wil
Re:wow (Score:2, Offtopic)
Re:wow (Score:2)
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:5, Insightful)
Even the bed example is not a best fit; business travelers are usually tired enough, and they spend more time in restaurants (between 6pm and midnight) than in bed.
Even more detached from reality is the claim that you can share the connection. Sure you can, but with who? When you travel you have your room to yourself. I don't see any scenario when a bunch of people suddenly needs to share some Internet connection. I travel with other people sometimes, and we have notebooks... but sneakernet with USB flash disks is the media of choice; besides, we all have Internet access in our rooms, often included into the bill which we don't pay ourselves anyway, along with newspapers which we don't have time or desire to read.
This device may be useful to someone - anything is useful to someone, somewhere. But when I travel I need an Access Point much less than a spare battery, for example, or a stack of CDs. I do not need this AP on the road, and I don't know anyone who would need it.
Besides, most of business travelers are sales people, not very familiar with computers and rightfully afraid to mess with them. These guys know how to turn the thing on and how to start their PowerPoint presentation, and that's pretty much all they know. The good part is that they don't even need to know more.
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:2)
I was thinking more like a small office situation where you could have one computer dealing with your ISP's broken PPPOE implementation, with a USB AP providing a network for everybody else. That said, there's not much advantage to that over buying a stand-alone AP....
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:2)
Whether it is a 'good' use I don't know. Most laptops come with an ethernet interface these days. That eliminates the need to use a device like this as an ethernet adapter. Add a PCMCIA Wifi card that can act as an AP, and some software in the background to do nat/ipmasq, d
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:2)
In option 3 I see no need for this device whatsoever, with USB or without... Even if you are stuck with an older notebook without 802.11, get a PCMCIA card, it is tiny and light, and does not need cables.
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:2)
OK, here's a good situation. It's a meeting with staff at XYZ organization. Our clients almost universally have a DSL network. A few are set up with wireless, usually it's Cat5.
So, there we are... in the meeting room. Frequently, nobody bothered to wire the conference room, or there's only one !@#!@ plug, while there are 3-5 of us all standing around with our fancy schmancy laptops, dealing with Internet-based software.
We're t
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't see any scenario when a bunch of people suddenly needs to share some Internet connection.
How about a team of CPA's in for a large company's audit and certification of financials? Or sales tax investigators doing a large audit? A team of programmers in for a database migration? I bet the insurance company response teams in Florida could even have benefitted from such a device. Once you start thinking along these lines, the list starts growing and growing.
Just a few weeks ago my family and I,
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:5, Interesting)
At E3 this year, four of us were sharing two rooms, but we were doing all of our work in one room. Three of us had laptops, and we all would be doing work that would have required wireless internet. We knew our room would have internet access via ethernet, so I had brought along a full-size D-Link access point/router so that all three of us could use the internet access via wireless at the same time. Having one of these devices (or preferably an AirPort Express, had they been out at the time) would have saved me some room in my laptop bag.
Just my $.02...
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:5, Informative)
I work as a Sales Engineer for an enterprise software company, and I can think of a number of uses for this type of product. Just to clarify, a 'Sales Engineer' is generally someone who is in charge of all pre-sales engineering duties, such as requirements gathering, proof of concept, etc.
First of all, I do a lot of work in hotel rooms, and I like to take advantage of the mobility of my laptop. I hate working at the cramped desk that most hotels give you, so I usually end up working on the bed, and wireless would be very helpful. Second, I feel that using a hardware NAT router in a hotel room is a 'Good Thing'. Yes, some of the software firewalls are nice, and will keep you protected - I feel however that the additional security layer is nice judging by the sort of activity that I see on the LANs of most hotels. Third, business travelers often have need for impromptu meetings while on the road. With this unit everyone can share a single ethernet jack to get some work done. Finally, the reason that might be most relevant only to other SE's like me....for a lot of proof-of-concept or demo environments it is imperative that you carry a router and other gear to emulate real world network conditions for your presentation/demonstration. This sure beats carrying a full-sized Linksys.
Consider yourself enlightened.
Re:Please Enlighten Me (Score:2)
So, I thought this would be an easy way to get all the machines on line (about 3 or 4) with paying for a single line. As pointed out by others, you could just use the IP line, then use your wireless card in AP mode if you set up the software
Re:Okay... (Score:3, Insightful)
Even if it is an ad, what right do you have to complain. You're not paying for slashdot. Go elsewhere if you don't like it. I'm a subscriber (read: I pay money to see slashdot) and I love articles like this. Okay!?
This is becoming the new cliché on slashdot... "this is an ad... slashdot sucks... whine whine"
It's been said so many times that it's not intere
Re:Okay... (Score:2)
P.S. There is always a right to complain.
Re:Okay... (Score:2)
This is becoming the new cliché on slashdot... "this is someone complaining about slashdot... go somewhere else if you don't like it... whine whine"
The moral here: you're free to complain about other people's complaints, but that makes your complaints kind of ironic
Re:Okay... (Score:2)
Why?
To see ads?
Re:Okay...more info (Score:3, Insightful)
Second, I would know about this product because I read slashdot and have seen Airport Express postings, which have had comments referring to these. I also recently purchased the aforementioned Asus W
Reviews ??? Re:Okay... (Score:2)
Re:Welcome! (Score:2, Insightful)
We don't need to hear about it everytime you don't like an article.
Re:Welcome! (Score:2)
"SLOW DOWN, COWBOY!"
response!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Maybe that will keep the servers up long enough to be able to send in a response, too.
How about this? Nobody should be allowed to send more than one response within a twenty-four period?
See - we can make the Net look like snail mail if we try!
Now if we can just figure out a way to put AI into the moderators (s
Re:Simple solution (Score:2)
If you didn't know that, maybe the "(Edit) [slashdot.org]" link next to the "Karma-Bonus Modifier +1 (Edit)" you quoted could have been a hint. Or do you normally get the option to immediately change a moderation? (Boy I wish I did.)
Change it to 0 and re-check his post. Like magic, it's back to 1. Change it to -5
Re:Simple solution (Score:2)
The grandparent asked mods to "feel free not to mod me", I pointed out that no one had modded him/her, and said "hey, looks like it's working".
What part of "don't mod me" "hey, you didn't get modded" did you miss?