Samsung Linux-Powered Smartphone Ships In China 46

Posted by timothy on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @01:11AM from the cross-pollination dept.

An anonymous reader writes "LinuxDevices.com reports on a new Samsung smartphone shipping in China. According to the article, the Samsung SCH-i519 smartphone supports both Chinese and English, and works with the CDMA2000 1x network of China's #2 wireless provider, Unicom. The device features voice control, a powerful 400MHz XScale PXA255 processor, and a software suite from Mizi Research. Add this to other recent news (a Linux-powered smartphone from China's E28, Japan's NTT DoCoMo has adopted Linux for its new 3G phones, and, of course, Motorola announced the Linux-powered A760 earlier this year), and it starts to look like Linux is picking up steam in the mobile phone market." Update: 12/17 06:16 GMT by S : We previously covered the E28 phone yesterday, though not this new Samsung model.

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Linux in China (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes:

it starts to look like Linux is picking up steam in the mobile phone market.

Or at least some steamed rice!

har har!
China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:4, Funny)

by miracle69 ( 34841 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @01:13AM (#7742817)

But who cares, with over a billion people, some were bound to miss it the first time around.

- heh (Score:1, Funny)
  
  by wrinkledshirt ( 228541 ) writes:
  
  /. Editor: Did you see the story about the Linux-powered cell phone?
  
  /. Reader: Actually, no, I didn't see it...
  
  /. Editor: Give me a sec... (typing)
  
  /. Editor: Okay, can you see it now?
  
  [rimshot]
- - Re:ignorant slashdot reader doesn't RTFA... (Score:1)
    
    by Al-Hala ( 447007 ) writes:
    
    Actually, it wasn't a first post. It's just the one with the most points.
    
    The article first stated "Linux cell phone in China", without model numbers listed.
    
    That information was added in at a later date, and the other information padded into the text.
- Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:2, Informative)
  
  by goranb ( 209371 ) writes:
  
  Isn't it interesting that /. readers are willing to complain over duplicate posts and wonder whether the editors ever read /. them selfs...
  But at the same time they are not willing to RTFA in both the original or "duplicate" post...
  - Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:1)
    
    by Al-Hala ( 447007 ) writes:
    
    With the amount of duplicates, I think they can be forgiven for not checking each and every single post, especially as this one was worded almost IDENTICAL to the one posted recently.
    
    In addition, I do believe this is the FIRST time in recent memory I've seen a "whoops, we were wrong, it isn't a dupe" situation.
    
    Cheers!
- Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:1)
  
  by Molina the Bofh ( 99621 ) writes:
  
  This is called merchandise.
- CDMA is a small market in China (Score:2)
  
  by winkydink ( 650484 ) * writes:
  
  Less that 10% of the market is CDMA. GSM dominates and is predicted to do so in the future. Granted, 10% of the Chinese mobile market is still a big number, but the earlier article on the GSM linux smartphone is much more significant.
- Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:1)
  
  by DLR ( 18892 ) writes:
  
  I submitted this yesterday but it wasn't good enough then? I'm sooooo confused.
  - Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:1)
    
    by DLR ( 18892 ) writes:
    
    Here is the arcicle I referenced, if anyone cares... http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?id=750
Gotta luv it... (Score:2)

by djupedal ( 584558 ) writes:

Linux & QuickTime on china-made cell phones.... Samsung rocks. I know where I'm buying my next phone. Now if it works with the Alpine headunit in my Ranger, I'm in heaven.
- - Re:Gotta luv it... (Score:5, Informative)
    
    by djupedal ( 584558 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @01:32AM (#7742892)
    
    No kidding (I guess the four years I worked for Samsung in Korea made me forget, sorry)...and since they have factories overseas, this somehow prevents the phones from being made inside China (as well as Malaysia)? The phones are engineered in Suwon, Korea. Samsung Electronics just completed moving all manuf. lines overseas, except for domestic goods and high-end displays.
    
    When Nokia and Seimens decided to sell mobile phones in China, they had to agree to allow local co-ownership...this meant a two year lead on other firms, such as Samsung, which elected to wait and retain control. This phone is one of the first examples of how that wait has paid off. Samsung is free to make the units their way, without domestic partners inside China.
    
- Re:Dupe, dupe dupa dupe... (Score:5, Informative)
  
  by Misch ( 158807 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @01:19AM (#7742846) Homepage
  
  Actually, they're profiling different items.
  
  The story from the 15th is from E28. Today is Samsung. The stories are from teh same site, and they're almost the same thing, but not quite.
  
- I don't think it is a dupe. (Score:3, Informative)
  
  by Richard M. Nixon ( 697603 ) writes:
  
  I'm not so sure. They are at least pointing to different articles.
  
  Here is yesterday's slashdot article [slashdot.org]
  Here is the article it was refering to. [linuxdevices.com]
  And here is the article that todays slashdot article is refering to. [linuxdevices.com]
  
  (Both Articles are at linuxdevices.com but they are different articles.)
  
  Now, the phone in yesterday's article is talking about the E28 manufactured by, well it doesn't say beyond that it's a Chinese company.
  
  This article refers to what looks like a different phone (look at the picture) t
a swipe at the ambiguity of it all... (Score:5, Funny)

by Anthony Boyd ( 242971 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @01:22AM (#7742858) Homepage

the Samsung SCH-i519 smartphone supports both Chinese and English

That's it?!?!? I have German relatives, and my wife is Korean! I'm not buying any phone which limits the people I can speak to!

Power Consumption? (Score:3, Interesting)

by SynKKnyS ( 534257 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @02:02AM (#7743037)

The Mitac Mio 8380 smartphone has a 200 MHz XScale processor in it. It is relatively bad on power consumption when compared to similar devices. I wonder how this phone in the article will do with a 400 MHz XScale in it. Not trying to be captain obvious but talk time is what a lot of consumers look at when considering a phone.

- Re:Power Consumption? (Score:2)
  
  by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) writes:
  
  A lot depends what role the XScale is playing. The XScale does not have onboard SRAM and isn't good at doing low power (standby) stuff, like the OMAPs etc do. I have not looked at the details but I suspect that some other CPU is doing the cellphone handling and the XScale only wakes up during a call/active use.
  A faster CPU does not have to mean (significantly) more power consumption. When there is nothing to process, the CPU sleeps, therefore typically the 400MHz CPU will just end up sleeping more, but wil
Anyone already demanded source? (Score:4, Insightful)

by SpaghettiPattern ( 609814 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @04:08AM (#7743393)

C'mon there must be at least one ./er living in China with enough dough to buy a phone and immediately ask for source code!

Just to be a pain in the butt, out of sheer interest, out of boredom or to actually exercise the GPL rights,.. Whatever reason.

- Re:Anyone already demanded source? (Score:2)
  
  by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) writes:
  
  You probably can't demand source for anything much more than the kernel. Likely there isn't much in the kernel that isn't already in ARM linux (ie. linux2.4.x + rmkx). The cell handling code etc etc is quite likely not in the kernel and not subject to GPL.
Looks... (Score:2, Interesting)

by the_true_cirrus ( 559825 ) writes:

Let's face it, most people will go for looks and size over fancy features before they buy a phone. These are mobile phones after all - they need to fit in your pocket comfortably, have a long battery life and preferably look pretty too.
Now the Samsung phone looks quite nice but the form factor may limit its appeal. It's not that big, but the PDA design is an akward shape for your trouser pocket and looks a bit odd next to your face when making a phone call (I'm thinking of O2's XDA here for comparison). As
- Re:Looks... (Score:2)
  
  by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) writes:
  
  "... most people..." be careful, your tastes are not likely not typical of the planet at large.
  eg. In some countries, cell phone coverage is way cheaper (and more reliable) than land line, so having a feature phone is a more convenient way to get info than a dial-up+PC.
- Re:I vaguely remember something... (Score:2)
  
  by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) writes:
  
  ... or HURD.... in a few decades time :-). Linux just outstrips OpenBSD for support and ease of integration (at least on ARM processors anyway).
Card slot? (Score:2)

by DirkDaring ( 91233 ) writes:

Does it have a slot to put in a 802.11x wireless adapter? If not, don't want it.
For those who don't read the dot (Score:3, Informative)

by be-fan ( 61476 ) writes: on Wednesday December 17, 2003 @11:58AM (#7745997)

The Samsung SCH i519 runs Qt/Embedded on Linux, and the official SDK is a Linux machine running KDevelop :) [mizi.com]

w00t!

New phone (Score:2)

by AchmedHabib ( 696882 ) writes:

I go past a store every day that sell this phone [mobileburn.com], I have played with it a bit and the 384kbps video stream / internet connection really makes it a fun plaything. But since the mobile phone company we use at work does not support this standard yet, I guess I will have to do without. There's no way I pay the price for that bandwidth myself. On the other hand, the geek in me would love to have what compares to a slow ADSL, only mobile.
Is it just me... (Score:1)

by -kertrats- ( 718219 ) writes:

Or did this article get a really small number of posts for front page /.? Yeah, i know, -1, offtopic. Sorry :(
The Samsung phone should soon be GPS enabled (Score:1)

by 2square ( 524737 ) writes:

Last summer we ported our GPS receiver client to their Mizi embedded linux platform. I cant wait to see it in production.

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Linux in China (Score:1, Funny)

China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:4, Funny)

heh (Score:1, Funny)

Re:ignorant slashdot reader doesn't RTFA... (Score:1)

Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:2, Informative)

Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:1)

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CDMA is a small market in China (Score:2)

Re:China Announces Duplicate Slashdot Post (Score:1)

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Gotta luv it... (Score:2)

Re:Gotta luv it... (Score:5, Informative)

Re:Dupe, dupe dupa dupe... (Score:5, Informative)

I don't think it is a dupe. (Score:3, Informative)

a swipe at the ambiguity of it all... (Score:5, Funny)

Power Consumption? (Score:3, Interesting)

Re:Power Consumption? (Score:2)

Anyone already demanded source? (Score:4, Insightful)

Re:Anyone already demanded source? (Score:2)

Looks... (Score:2, Interesting)

Re:Looks... (Score:2)

Re:I vaguely remember something... (Score:2)

Card slot? (Score:2)

For those who don't read the dot (Score:3, Informative)

New phone (Score:2)

Is it just me... (Score:1)

The Samsung phone should soon be GPS enabled (Score:1)

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