Sony's New Vaio PCG-TR1A: 12" Powerbook Killer? 452
Anonymous Howard writes "Sony has a hot new subnote on it's hand: the Vaio PCG-TR1A. This subnote is packed full of features: integrated camera (still and video), 10.6 inch bright wide-format screen, 900MHz Centrino, CD-RW/DVD Combo drive, 30GB drive, 802.11b, two usb ports, firewire, 3.11 pounds and a magnesium alloy case. The thing looks really cool. For me, it's the first subnote that actually gives me a viable option for purchase instead of a the Apple Powerbook 12". Read a article about it over at Designtechnica. Check out this forum thread that has good pics, other then the stock pics, next to a VPR Matrix 200A5."
12 inch powerbook killer? (Score:5, Insightful)
Power comparison (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:3.11 Lbs (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:12 inch powerbook killer? (Score:2, Insightful)
OSX On Sony? (Score:5, Insightful)
12" vs 10.6" (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Dell has had one for some time too (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:12 inch powerbook killer? (Score:5, Insightful)
Powerbook Killer? (Score:1, Insightful)
12" Powerbook killer? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Interesting... (Score:5, Insightful)
Hmm... Open-source Darwin core... X11... More "open" technologies than you could shake a stick at... Loads of great built-in languages... Freely available ports of tons of great Unix apps... Exactly what is so "proprietary" about Mac OS X that is scaring you away?
Re:Interesting... (Score:4, Insightful)
(I do of course realize, though, this doesn't apply if you play by the rules and also get those essential apps bundled with the machine on one platform but not the other, and it also doesn't apply if the apps you want/need aren't made for the Mac and there are no equivalents that can open & save the same files.)
Not a Powerbook killer for that reason... (Score:2, Insightful)
Now, even though I am a long time mac user/proponent, I use PCs at work and the pure usablity gap is decreasing. But when it comes to polish, fit and finish, and total cost of ownership - I just can't see the pc as a good choice for most people. It's too bad that the price sticker at best buy doesn't have to include a breakdown of how much the unit will cost over its lifetime and how much hair you will pull out (sort of like energy costs on appliances).
Everytime I think of adding an ultralight PC laptop to my home network to run the odd pc app, I read these posts and remember that it ain't worth it.
And the things cost way more than a 12" PB!
-matt
Re:Price, price, price (Score:2, Insightful)
And using that logic... I recently purchased an HP laptop with a 14" XGA screen for $599 after rebates! You have to understand that when laptops get _smaller_ they sometimes get more expensive. Knowing this, you won't say strange things like "laptop X is cheaper AND bigger!"
Catchup?! (Score:4, Insightful)
PCMCIA MIA (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Dell has had one for some time too (Score:2, Insightful)
for the c400, you can get a 16 cell battery, but it pretty much doubles the height and weight. =(
Powerbooks are very fashionable (Score:3, Insightful)
Too bad taste isn't one of those standards.
Pay attention to the laptops in TV/magazine/newspaper ads, not to mention TV shows, music videos...and of course movies...by far, Apple Powerbooks are the laptop of choice, and when a movie features a pseudo-screen-graphic, it usually bears a play-skool resemblence to the older MacOS. Oh, and the sounds you hear while Joe Movie Star is working at the computer...is usually either an ancient seagate MFM drive(wee wee...wee wooo weee) or a Macintosh 3.5" drive(Boop boop boop boop boop brrrrp booop boop). The MFM drive sound not surprisingly is more popular in the low-budg films(just kidding :-)
You have to kind of look closely since they almost always black out the Apple logo(esp on the powerbooks that have glowing apple logos :-), but the case is very distinctive on the G3 powerbooks(the Lombard was code-named after Lombard Street in CA- the curviest street in the world..because almost every surface of the case is curved.)
In fact, at one point, one of the major fashion magazines many years back said the most fashionable item you could have on you while walking down Wall St. was a Powerbook under your arm(probably where the Wallstreet codename came from). The TiBook continues the trend- they're downright gorgeous machines, at least before the paint starts chipping from the case(which is why Apple is, on new models, using unpainted aluminum external surfaces- the painted exterior of the 15" Tibook did NOT go over very well).
Re:Troll? (Score:5, Insightful)
unusable for me (Score:2, Insightful)
I am certainly not against Sony, I bought a Vaio for my fiancee. But I personally have no idea how anyone can use one of these things on a daily basis.
If you have a monitor and a keyboard and a mouse to plug into it so that it is essentially a mobile station that you move about, then that makes sense.
Of if you have that setup at work for all your uses, but if you travel to a client site you can then bring the little thing with you and use it to do a presentation - you can woo them with the little shiny thing that you brought with you to do it all.
But I just can't imagine using it, sitting there typing on it and the screen... ugh.
It would drive me absolutely nuts.
I have my 15" screen at 1400Xwhatever and a nearly full keyboard on mine and it still is a bit confining for my tastes, but is at least usable.
I use this at work and at home (at work I have a desktop that I do most of my work on, the laptop is for work that goes with me all the time).
When I get a new one, I will either get one of the Dells that can do 1600x1200 and has a brighter screen, or I will go to powernotebooks.com and see what I can setup there.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why someone would seek out a smaller laptop.
Easy to carry, lighter, less screen to drive means longer battery life to some extent... but to actually use the damn thing...
Shows I'm narrow minded I guess.
Re:Sony Notebook?? (Score:1, Insightful)
oh, and their keyboards and batteries are crapola.
Never, ever buy Sony Vaio (Score:2, Insightful)
I use a Vaio with SuSE 8.2 (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Interesting... (Score:5, Insightful)
It should be fairly obvious, but people seem to not notice.
Mac OS X only runs on a single source of hardware. That makes it extremely proprietary.
Re:Interesting... (Score:2, Insightful)
The nice thing about Mac OS X is I get to be both on the same machine. If you have a piece of Linux/FreeBSD code you can almost certainly run it on Mac OS X.
While Mac OS X isn't a free OS - it is a *very* good free software platform (and there is also VirtualPC if you need to run some legacy Windows software - slowly
Re:Interesting... (Score:3, Insightful)
That's nonsense; xterm redraws have been imperceptible on regular hardware for years.
OS X which has minimal redraw latency even with transparent windows
Yes, it does, by shoving graphics content into the server. But that's not drawing speed, that's redrawing speed. You can tell X11 to do the same thing, it just happens to be disabled by default because it's pointless on a properly configured system.
How exactly is "Linux" easier to install and maintain? Portage is available for OS X - the exact same package management system for a popular desktop distro.
The problem is that OS X package management isn't consistent: some applications are updated by Apple, others are updated by hand, yet others have their own built-in update systems, and then there are several ported Linux and BSD package managers. The upshot is that maintaining an OS X system requires a lot of manual work, while Linux systems update themselves completely automatically and consistently.
In any case, I think most people will find that all the applications that they could possibly miss (usual POSIX console utilities and emacs) are there, along with some much improved ones (xchat) and a whole new plethora of cocoa apps - that perhaps they didn't know they wanted
There is a lot of UNIX/Linux software that doesn't work on OS X and is a pain to port. Problems are non-UNIX implementations of audio, video, I/O, and just general differences in header files and libraries.
After having built a fully optimized gentoo system (2.4.21-ck3, XFree86 4, fluxbox) for my Athlon XP 2000+, I was bitterly disappointed to note the above noted redraw lag. IM(NS)HO, OS X desktop interactivity is faster.
You are probably using an unaccelerated video driver or have some other configuration problem. You can't blame Linux for that. If you want good performance with no hassles, buy a system that comes with Linux support out of the box.
Re:12 inch powerbook killer? (Score:2, Insightful)
Am I the only person left who only uses his laptop as a computer instead of as a home entertainment center? (Not flamebait, but a genuine question.)