Statement of Bias: Pinephone (bravehart version) and PineTab owner. Pleased with both, but not using pinephone yet.
There are reasons for the price differences, and there are very good reasons for both approaches.
The Librem phone is the product of a for-profit company. They have a strong incentive to build a "finished" and functional product with working hardware and fullly integrated software (maybe evertyhing doesn't work now, but as long as there is a product to sell, they will be working to get there)
Regarding your speaker on the Pine: The problem here clearly is a lack of debug logging and hardware documentation. This is what I learned, going from Windows to Linux: You can actually solve all your problems! You switch on debug logging, trigger the problem (like sound playback in your case) and let the log tell you what the problem is. Then you fix that, if clear. Or look at the code that creates the error message and look what decisions led there. (Like being unable to write to a missing/dev/ file.) And
Quite cool for a minimal phone : https://mudita.com/products/pu... [mudita.com] The first one I see with an open source OS, replaceable battery and an e-ink screen that will allow a far longer life between recharges...
PinePhone competitor (Score:4, Informative)
https://shop.puri.sm/shop/libr... [shop.puri.sm]
https://pine64.com/product-cat... [pine64.com]
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...which isn't really surprising considering that it's more powerful and that this price pays for software development that both devices utilize.
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Even so could they not have added more than 3GB of RAM? For a phone costing $800 that's a bit low and RAM is really cheap.
I couldn't find a support guarantee either. They have a blog post about they they promise to support it for a long time, but don't say how long.
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This phone has been in the works for a long time. 3GB was a decent amount of RAM when they first announced it, same with the screen/storage/etc.
Given that it runs Linux, for most of the things you'd probably use it for 3GB will likely be more than plenty.
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> Given that it runs Linux, for most of the things you'd probably use it for 3GB will likely be more than plenty.
Does it come with a command-line interface and vi or emacs keybindings?
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Statement of Bias: Pinephone (bravehart version) and PineTab owner. Pleased with both, but not using pinephone yet.
There are reasons for the price differences, and there are very good reasons for both approaches.
The Librem phone is the product of a for-profit company. They have a strong incentive to build a "finished" and functional product with working hardware and fullly integrated software (maybe evertyhing doesn't work now, but as long as there is a product to sell, they will be working to get there)
Re: PinePhone competitor (Score:2)
Regarding your speaker on the Pine: The problem here clearly is a lack of debug logging and hardware documentation. /dev/ file.)
This is what I learned, going from Windows to Linux: You can actually solve all your problems! You switch on debug logging, trigger the problem (like sound playback in your case) and let the log tell you what the problem is. Then you fix that, if clear. Or look at the code that creates the error message and look what decisions led there. (Like being unable to write to a missing
And
Librem vs Pinephone vs Fairphone (Score:2)
tentative comparison table : https://imgur.com/Xqjo7sg.png [imgur.com]
sources :
https://pine64.com/product/pin... [pine64.com]
https://shop.fairphone.com/en/... [fairphone.com]
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Dear AC, please just consider working a bit.
Do prepare and publish a better table, I'll be happy, definitely.
at the opposite, Mudita (Score:2)
Quite cool for a minimal phone : https://mudita.com/products/pu... [mudita.com]
The first one I see with an open source OS, replaceable battery and an e-ink screen that will allow a far longer life between recharges...
Sorry for the above... (Score:2)
I didn't see this Mudita are built in Poland. The country just passing a law so that even f**cked women cannot abort. Exit.
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If you base all purchases on the source country passing a law you dislike, you will end up with nothing to purchase.