Believe as you will. Personally I am inclined to believe his statement is correct.
Let's see:
"that long term heating of tissues in your head can damage those tissues"
He said "can" not "will" so the statement is true if there is even one example of this to prove that it can happen. Since "long" is a completely subjective concept an example of any duration no matter how brief or long will do. Examples could include sticking your head in an oven or furnace for a long period of time, faceplanting into the sun, c
I'll need a well written, reviewed paper to believe that bumping the thermostat up by a few degrees is going to kill me.
That's a pretty silly statement. Your body has very little tolerance to temperature change. Only a "few degrees" up and you enter into potentially fatal hyperpyrexia. Now blood is reasonably good at cooling the body, but when you're heating sensitive parts directly who knows what will happen. Evolution does. Ever wonder why testicles are outside the body? You probably didn't guess "climate control" as sperm are just one of the many cells which are completely intolerant to temperature change.
Seconded.
I've had a sun stroke, I did notice my head (wearing a cap) got uncomfortably hot, but there was no shade in sight. 1 day of puking and staying in the shade with a fever set me straight. And I'm quite sure there is tissue damage involved in such cases. I'm also sure that doesn't happen without any feeling of discomfort.
It will certainly go rancid faster if you place it under an IR lamp than if you don't, and if somebody lies to you and sells you an IR bulb that is twice as hot as you intended, the tissue will degrade much faster than you anticipated when you said it won't cook. It may be that it will not burn, but it will still be damaged.
Did you know that persistent exposure to excess levels of various frequencies of non-ionizing radiation can damage the skin, leading to skin cancer?
"It will certainly go rancid faster if you place it under an IR lamp than if you don't, and if somebody lies to you and sells you an IR bulb that is twice as hot as you intended, the tissue will degrade much faster than you anticipated when you said it won't cook. It may be that it will not burn, but it will still be damaged."
That may be true but there is a slight problem with this analogy... food doesn't go rancid because meat is damaged by temperature, it goes rancid because heat accelerates the growth of
That was the point! There are multiple ways that high levels of non-ionizing radiation can damage you. Not only direct heat damage, but indirect heat damage (drying, etc), interference with signaling, etc.
There is a level that is believed safe, and levels above that are believed not to be safe, and this was above safe levels. That doesn't imply there is only one danger.
Refusing to learn about the dangers doesn't imply that there is little evidence. 20 years ago they found that rats had trouble remembering t
Abstract This paper attempts to resolve the debate about whether non-ionizing radiation (NIR) can cause cancer-a debate that has been ongoing for decades. The rationale, put forward mostly by physicists and accepted by many health agencies, is that, "since NIR d
I gave it a shot. I downloaded the paper and started to read. It's a letter to the editor, an opinion piece, written by one guy, who then proceeds to cite himself among the key thought leaders of the proponents of the idea that non-ionizing radiation can cause cancer. Of course, no one else has authored anything with the guy...
There are other indications of this. The label you are so quick to toss out is exactly why there isn't a lot of direct research of cancer but oxidation damages DNA and that carries a risk of cancer mutation and the linkage to oxidation does seem to be established. Studies have shown damage to mammal tissues so it seems unlikely this wouldn't be a problem for humans as well. Where there is cellular damage there is mutation and where there is mutation there is a cancer risk.
Still non-ionizing (Score:-1)
FUD...
Re:Still non-ionizing (Score:4, Insightful)
Did you know that burns are not ionizing radiation?
Did you know that long term heating of tissues in your head can damage those tissues?
No, I didn't think you did.
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Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
No, I didn't think you did. [wikimedia.org]
Thank you for participating in this social experiment, good sir.
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When's the last time you got a burn from using a cell phone (unless you had one of those Samsungs from a few years back)?
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I mean, he's making a statement that cuts across the actual medical definition. Some burns are caused by ionizing radiation, and others are not.
A burn is defined by the denaturing of proteins. This starts around 114 degrees Fahrenheit (that's 573.67 Rankine).
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I'll need a well written, reviewed paper to believe that bumping the thermostat up by a few degrees is going to kill me.
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Believe as you will. Personally I am inclined to believe his statement is correct.
Let's see:
"that long term heating of tissues in your head can damage those tissues"
He said "can" not "will" so the statement is true if there is even one example of this to prove that it can happen. Since "long" is a completely subjective concept an example of any duration no matter how brief or long will do. Examples could include sticking your head in an oven or furnace for a long period of time, faceplanting into the sun, c
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I'll need a well written, reviewed paper to believe that bumping the thermostat up by a few degrees is going to kill me.
That's a pretty silly statement. Your body has very little tolerance to temperature change. Only a "few degrees" up and you enter into potentially fatal hyperpyrexia. Now blood is reasonably good at cooling the body, but when you're heating sensitive parts directly who knows what will happen. Evolution does. Ever wonder why testicles are outside the body? You probably didn't guess "climate control" as sperm are just one of the many cells which are completely intolerant to temperature change.
Now as to if a m
Re: Still non-ionizing (Score:2)
I've had a sun stroke, I did notice my head (wearing a cap) got uncomfortably hot, but there was no shade in sight. 1 day of puking and staying in the shade with a fever set me straight. And I'm quite sure there is tissue damage involved in such cases. I'm also sure that doesn't happen without any feeling of discomfort.
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It will certainly go rancid faster if you place it under an IR lamp than if you don't, and if somebody lies to you and sells you an IR bulb that is twice as hot as you intended, the tissue will degrade much faster than you anticipated when you said it won't cook. It may be that it will not burn, but it will still be damaged.
Did you know that persistent exposure to excess levels of various frequencies of non-ionizing radiation can damage the skin, leading to skin cancer?
Did you know that anything that damage
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"It will certainly go rancid faster if you place it under an IR lamp than if you don't, and if somebody lies to you and sells you an IR bulb that is twice as hot as you intended, the tissue will degrade much faster than you anticipated when you said it won't cook. It may be that it will not burn, but it will still be damaged."
That may be true but there is a slight problem with this analogy... food doesn't go rancid because meat is damaged by temperature, it goes rancid because heat accelerates the growth of
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That was the point! There are multiple ways that high levels of non-ionizing radiation can damage you. Not only direct heat damage, but indirect heat damage (drying, etc), interference with signaling, etc.
There is a level that is believed safe, and levels above that are believed not to be safe, and this was above safe levels. That doesn't imply there is only one danger.
Refusing to learn about the dangers doesn't imply that there is little evidence. 20 years ago they found that rats had trouble remembering t
That heuristic no longer works (Score:2)
It's time to ditch outdated heuristics man. We are not a bulk material, but exquisitely engineered organisms with trillions of moving parts.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]
When theory and observation collide: Can non-ionizing radiation cause cancer?
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Look...
I gave it a shot. I downloaded the paper and started to read. It's a letter to the editor, an opinion piece, written by one guy, who then proceeds to cite himself among the key thought leaders of the proponents of the idea that non-ionizing radiation can cause cancer. Of course, no one else has authored anything with the guy...
He's a crackpot.
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There are other indications of this. The label you are so quick to toss out is exactly why there isn't a lot of direct research of cancer but oxidation damages DNA and that carries a risk of cancer mutation and the linkage to oxidation does seem to be established. Studies have shown damage to mammal tissues so it seems unlikely this wouldn't be a problem for humans as well. Where there is cellular damage there is mutation and where there is mutation there is a cancer risk.
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