I am NOT an open source ideologue, however, with Google closed source kernel could only mean that snooping is baked-in at the kernel level. They are not in business of selling OS, so I couldn't think of any other reason to close source it.
They should have named this kernel Tom, as in Peeping Tom.
I am NOT an open source ideologue, however, with Google closed source kernel could only mean that snooping is baked-in at the kernel level. They are not in business of selling OS, so I couldn't think of any other reason to close source it.
They should have named this kernel Tom, as in Peeping Tom.
Its entirely likely they will open it up eventually. Right now its early R&D phase. Time will tell I guess.
Well, MIT licensed, so they can keep the "base" kernel open-sourced and while the snooping bits in the user-installed binaries stay secret.
This. Google has always been extremely anti GPL, to the extent that they have effectively banned it for internal projects. The reason is clear. If the user has the right to see the snooping then the user would likely choose to remove it.
And society as well! Aptly named license! We will share all our knowledge but we'll also throw a bunch of little tiny seeds in there that will grow one day to believe that the economic system we live in now is the best, America is the best place on earth, and that we have always been at war with the bad guys! (We've almost always been at war.)
It's the subtle little seedlings that do the heaving lifting. You just gotta give it time!
"the kernel is called Magenta." (Score:2)
Replacing Linux with a home-rolled kernel?
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Replacing Linux with a home-rolled kernel?
Yes and at present it is closed source.
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Replacing Linux with a home-rolled kernel?
Yes and at present it is closed source.
I am NOT an open source ideologue, however, with Google closed source kernel could only mean that snooping is baked-in at the kernel level. They are not in business of selling OS, so I couldn't think of any other reason to close source it.
They should have named this kernel Tom, as in Peeping Tom.
Re:"the kernel is called Magenta." (Score:5, Insightful)
Replacing Linux with a home-rolled kernel?
Yes and at present it is closed source.
I am NOT an open source ideologue, however, with Google closed source kernel could only mean that snooping is baked-in at the kernel level. They are not in business of selling OS, so I couldn't think of any other reason to close source it.
They should have named this kernel Tom, as in Peeping Tom.
Its entirely likely they will open it up eventually. Right now its early R&D phase. Time will tell I guess.
Re:"the kernel is called Magenta." (Score:5, Informative)
Unless I'm way off base, there's the kernel.
Re:"the kernel is called Magenta." (Score:5, Informative)
Are you sure? It's right here: https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/magenta
MIT license. Are we talking about the same thing?
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Well, MIT licensed, so they can keep the "base" kernel open-sourced and while the snooping bits in the user-installed binaries stay secret.
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Well, MIT licensed, so they can keep the "base" kernel open-sourced and while the snooping bits in the user-installed binaries stay secret.
This. Google has always been extremely anti GPL, to the extent that they have effectively banned it for internal projects. The reason is clear. If the user has the right to see the snooping then the user would likely choose to remove it.
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MIT license or equivalent is an absolutely necessary ingredient for Google's final descent to full evil.
Re: "the kernel is called Magenta." (Score:2)
And society as well! Aptly named license! We will share all our knowledge but we'll also throw a bunch of little tiny seeds in there that will grow one day to believe that the economic system we live in now is the best, America is the best place on earth, and that we have always been at war with the bad guys! (We've almost always been at war.)
It's the subtle little seedlings that do the heaving lifting. You just gotta give it time!
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You can do the same thing with Linux which allows proprietary closed-source kernel modules.
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I guess we'll have to wait for shipping devices to see if the kernel on the phone is identical to the kernel in the repository.
I will name him George (Score:4, Funny)