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HTC Unveils Revamped HTC One 152

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adeelarshad82 writes "Earlier today, HTC unveiled a revamped version of its One smartphone. The new HTC One has a 4.7-inch full HD 1080p display which is powered by a 1.7-GHz, quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor and a customized version of Android. The new phone includes support for NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, and DLNA for wireless streaming to a TV or computer. Measuring 5.4 by 2.7 by 0.36 inches, the phone weighs around 5 ounces. According to the specs, the phone will come with either 32 or 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM, and it's backed by a non-removable 2300mAh battery. Unfortunately the phone doesn't include a memory card slot and has just two ports: a headphone jack and a MicroUSB that doubles as an MHL output for HDMI TVs. HTC One's 'UltraPixel' camera is nothing to sniff at either. HTC is trying to replace megapixels with 'ultrapixels,' cutting down the size of photos but using much larger individual pixels to sharply reduce noise and improve low-light performance. In a quick comparison with iPhone 5 and Galaxy S3, One's images were far clearer and brighter. The HTC One runs Android 4.1.2 with HTC's new Sense 5."
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HTC Unveils Revamped HTC One

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  • by h4rr4r (612664) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:06PM (#42947077)

    Getting one phone out on a lot of carriers is a good move, but lets see if they can keep up with updates. So far HTC phones have been some of the worst at getting updated.

    Is the bootloader unlocked? Is S-off easy to obtain?

    • Customers Satisfied (Score:4, Interesting)

      by tuppe666 (904118) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:13PM (#42947139)

      Getting one phone out on a lot of carriers is a good move, but lets see if they can keep up with updates. So far HTC phones have been some of the worst at getting updated.

      Is the bootloader unlocked? Is S-off easy to obtain?

      http://ondeviceresearch.com/blog/iphone-5-ranked-fifth-in-user-satisfaction%2C-behind-four-android-powered-devices#sthash.uPvDqYTk.O4PYwW2L.dpbs [ondeviceresearch.com] in the UK the HTC X is rated No 1 in smartphone satisfaction, so clearly they are doing something right. If you have concerns [ignoring you should provide the answers] perhaps your asking the wrong questions.

      • by mcrbids (148650)

        Seeing your survey results doesn't surprise me. I bought the Droid Razr Maxx HD a month ago and I absolutely love this thing! It's amazing how much difference never having to worry about battery life is.

        I mean literally never. With generous settings (Wifi left on, GPS off, 4G data on) I can go two full days without a recharge and still have about 10-20% battery at the end of day two. Getting through a single day has never been a problem.

        Given that it's plenty fast (GTA III Vicy City plays well) big screen (

        • by Darinbob (1142669)

          Two days isn't never. My old pre-smart phone would go well over a week without a charge. It was something you didn't worry about. My phone has a decent charge life (htc one x), but I still have to remember to charge it. If I go over two or three days and forget to charge it, I can't use it. That is bad. The goal for all phone makers should be one week rather than just accept diminished expectations.

          • by AuMatar (183847) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @04:49PM (#42948219)

            Your pre-smartphone didn't do high speed data (requires more power), work as a mini-computer (power), have a high res display (power), had a processor that was a fraction of the speed (power). Its like complaining your car needs more gas than the old bicycle you used to ride. A week would be awesome, but we need major improvements in battery tech to get that. Until then, we live with what we have, and 2 days is a nice improvement over what we had a year or so ago.

        • by phaggood (690955)
          > Droid Razr Maxx HD
          I am waiting for this phone to come to Sprint; I replaced my Zio with an EVO with an extended battery but my wife doesn't want to trade her Zio for a phone as thick as mine even with the long battery life I get.
    • by ByOhTek (1181381)

      *shrug* I'll take rare updates over the crashfest I had with the Samsung phones I used. I'm 3-for-3 in buggy unstable garbage models with them (some dumbphone, Transform, and whatever the replacement for the Transform was).

      Still, HTC has moved to 'no keyboards', which, like the crashfest, kills my interest in purchasing. I wonder how long till they make cases with keyboards?

      • by dinther (738910) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:59PM (#42947609) Homepage

        I have a Samsung Galaxy S3. The damn thing only last a day and that means NOT using turn by turn navigation or 3D gaming. It would not make it through the day otherwise. For my holiday I purchased a dirt cheap battery with replacement back that more then doubles the battery capacity although it makes the phone twice as thick. I thought I'd use it only for the holiday but the fact I no longer need to turn the screen light to minimum and I can use whatever app I want made me continue to use this big battery. The thicker phone is easier to hold as well.

        As for SD cards. As people that dropped their phone in the water how they recovered their data. It if is an SD card it can be dried and it will work. Build in memory required the rest of the phone circuitry to work in order to get the data off.

        To me a closed phone (Fixed battery, fixed memory and customized (raped) android) is a lesser phone. My next phone will be from the Google Nexus line.

        • by h4rr4r (612664)

          If you drop your phone in water, pull the battery or turn it off. Let it rest in some kind of desiccant for a few days. It will survive.

          • by dinther (738910)

            Ok, I think you missed the point. New example. A truck drives over your lovely HTC One and leaves a crushed circuit board behind. SD cards are very hardy and likely to survive the assault. either way, chances of a part (SD card) of the phone surviving are much greater.

            • by h4rr4r (612664)

              The SD card likely will not survive what you describe. In any case, backups are the answer not a removable drive. You do backup any important data one way or another right?

        • by synapse7 (1075571)
          Sounds like you have Google Now and S-voice hotwords enabled for both services.
          • by dinther (738910)

            No idea what that is and no idea where or how to turn it off. That is half the problem with all the "customized" Android applications. Things get far too complicated.

        • by WilyCoder (736280)

          Dude I think that is a known software bug, have you searched on XDA for your specific issue? I recall having a similar issue with battery life on my S3 and there was some kind of hack to fix it. Something to do with the 3g radio cycling between H+ and H and 3g radio....I forget, its been a while since I fixed it...

        • Not to burst your bubble, but one of the big drawbacks of the Nexus line is the consistent the lack of removable storage -- the last three Nexus phones haven't had a micro-SD slot. Other than that, Nexuses (Nexii?) are wonderful things because they're open by design; but if you really like removable storage you're probably not going to be so happy. I completely agree with you about SD cards, incidentally; it's one of the things I miss in my current phone (a Nexus S -- over two years old, but still going s

    • by mlts (1038732)

      You have to log on to HTC's site, punch in the IMEI code, and they will send you a file you can use for a fastboot unlock.

  • by tuppe666 (904118) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:19PM (#42947197)

    The revamped one includes a Infrared remote control...and its not mentioned in the summary. I know those who had the n900 had this functionality, but Nokia hardware seems to have taken any advantages they have, and sacrificed it for Microsoft. So its nice to see this feature come back. Hopefully we are going to see some nice software to back this up.

    ...now we just have to wait for the radio transmitter, a function I used a lot on the n900.

  • A lesson for HTC (Score:5, Informative)

    by Maow (620678) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:20PM (#42947213) Journal

    Dear HTC,

    I love the hardware on my HTC Amaze 4G but I'm sorry to say that I cannot buy another HTC phone.

    I'm telling you why so you can reverse the decline you've been suffering.

    1) Allow users to remove / not load HTC Sense and opt for the pure Android experience. Sense is lovely, but sometimes I don't want to use up resources on it.

    2) Make your phones (more) hacker friendly. There is no CyanogenMod available for this phone because the drivers weren't released in a timely manner (if I understand the issue correctly), therefore the development community moved on to other phones and it isn't supported.

    3) Stop it with the non-removable batteries and lack of external SD card slots.

    4) UPDATES for Android! My phone updated from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, but I'm still waiting for 4.1 (and doubt I'll see 4.2). Unacceptable. If you make it easier for CyanogenMod, etc. to run on your older phones, IMHO it will raise your presence in the dev community and increase your exposure / perceived value. You need the dev community to support your phones. With the ability to run CM, you then won't need to issue support for older phones if you don't desire to, as we can update our phones ourselves.

    • 1. Go Launcher EX. It's super-effective :)
      2. No. There's no need for an Average Joe to hack and put some (officially) unsupported software release on a phone. If you really need CyanogenMod, there's a plethora of products which can be hacked as such. One of the main reasons my (very large) company uses HTC smartphones is exactly that: they are far more difficult to root. It's something Global Security was looking for.
      3a: yes, that's a deal-breaker for me. My HTC Desire S with Androind 2.3.5 had an issue whe

      • by KodaK (5477)

        Sense is much deeper than the launcher. It's like a cancer that spreads into all the menus and built in systems. I absolutely despise it and I just returned a One X because of it.

      • by AuMatar (183847)

        Yes, there is a reason that the owner needs to be able to put on any hack he wants- he owns it. It's his. He has every right to install any software he wishes on that device. Even though I've never installed an android image, not allowing me to is why I would never buy an HTC phone or suggest one to either friends family or as an IT purchase.

        As for updates- you're worried about security and you don't think updates are important? Wow.

        • That's something other groups are to be worried about in my company. I'm a mere user who receives patch notifications when they come to me and follows directions. It's not my personal phone and I treat it as such. Oh and I don't own it, not for the first two years, at least. Te company owns it. And when the company says "here, you can choose between a Blackberry, an iPhone and a HTC" I took the HTC because the other options sucked more, to me, at least.
          By this time next year I will fully own it, and then I

    • by sremick (91371)

      Agreed about the batteries and MicroSD card. This is 2013. There's no excuse for lacking these features. All my cell phones have had removable batteries back to my original Nokia candybar. On Android a single battery can't get you through a full day of use if you're a serious user, and not everyone can get to a charging source constantly. Keeping spare charged batteries is critical. Plus not everyone wants to replace their whole phone just because the original battery (a $5 part) only holds 50% of its origi

    • by steelfood (895457)

      For your particular phone, the latest stable Cyanogen Mod will get it to 4.1.1.

      My understanding is that they've been much better with the One series. Both the One X and the S can be updated to 4.2.2 using a Cyanogen nightly. HTC is not the fastest at pushing out OS updates, but they seem to be fine when it comes to supporting community projects. I don't really know too much though, as I'm not a part of that community.

      By far the largest problem (IMHO) with HTC's phones is the ten different models that are al

      • by hankwang (413283)

        By far the largest problem (IMHO) with HTC's phones is the ten different models that are all slightly different.

        Yeah, much better with for example the Samsung Galaxy, Blackberry, LG, Sony... Oh wait...

    • by eudaemon (320983)
      I'm been happyish with my Nexus One. Yes it's ancient. Not, it hasn't been updated in forever and the system speed and size are two years after purchase *very* limiting factors in using the phone. But the fact that it has a stock android OS, removable battery which has been upgraded to a stack of extended life batteries (one for running with the GPS on for tracking, another for in-the-office, and a backup) has extended the life of the phone considerably. I would have worn the stock battery completely ou
    • Re:A lesson for HTC (Score:5, Interesting)

      by AmiMoJo (196126) * <(mojo) (at) (world3.net)> on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @05:37PM (#42948847) Homepage

      I'll give you HTC's responses. Note I'm not endorsing them, just telling what they will say. My personal comments are included.

      1) Allow users to remove / not load HTC Sense and opt for the pure Android experience. Sense is lovely, but sometimes I don't want to use up resources on it.

      Sense is what differentiates our phones, all our apps are designed for it and would need modifications to fit in with the vanilla Android theme, our phones have industry leading performance etc.

      Comment: Apparently future versions of Android (Key Lime Pie?) will allow manufacturers to more easily skin the OS and optionally allow users to turn the skin off.

      2) Make your phones (more) hacker friendly.

      Lots of work for 0.00001% of our users, and lots of headaches from the people who think they know what they are doing but don't and brick their phones instead. Seriously, Samsung went to the trouble of introducing a counter that tracks how many times you installed an unofficial ROM because people kept bricking their phones and returning them.

      Comment: We are a niche market, but well served by Google and some really rather good Chinese phones.

      3) Stop it with the non-removable batteries and lack of external SD card slots.

      We make lots of money on battery replacement and charging £50 for an extra 8GB of storage.

      Comment: Okay, they wouldn't use those words, but that's what it boils down to. The only option is to boycott I'm afraid. Speak through your wallet.

      4) UPDATES for Android!

      It does what it does when you buy it. If you want new stuff buy a new phone.

      Comment: Again future versions of Android are supposed to improve this situation, and again the only solution is unfortunately to vote with your wallet.

      You need the dev community to support your phones.

      Those guys are a support nightmare for us. We really want them to leave us alone.

  • 2 Deal killers in 1 deal? Impressive!

    I have a Nexus 7 tablet which has no removable storage. This is a pain. I keep all my music in Google play but that is not all I want storage for..

    I have a Galaxy GS2 and put a high capacity battery in it after a few months. Yes, it made it thicker. No, that did not make it any less excellent in any way. In fact, it made it easier to hold!

    I will now call on the power of the free market and buy something else instead.

    • by anagama (611277)

      I have a nexus 7 and was annoyed that it doesn't automatically show up as a USB drive when connected to my computer. Bugged me for a long time -- there are apps to transfer files over your network but they seem slow. I resorted to scp more than once. Till I finally stumbled across http://www.android.com/filetransfer/ [android.com] . Now when I plug in the tablet, I get a file browser to move things around. It's great.

      As an aside, Airdroid http://www.airdroid.com/ [airdroid.com] is an awesome over the network method. Still kind of

  • by Voyager529 (1363959) <voyager529@yaho o . com> on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:58PM (#42947597)

    If I were HTC, I would *let* Samsung take the flat-slab, single-button, iPhone clone handset market...and then concentrate on the niches. For example:

    --HTC Universal: Every possible cellular frequency is supported, and shipped SIM unlocked. One handset that can roam freely between Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T, plus European and Asian cellular systems, at full data speed.

    --HTC Marathon: Twice as thick as an iPhone...with a 5,000mAh battery that can last two full days on a charge.

    --HTC Pure: From Google's Github to your phone in 72 hours. Those pining for a Sense-free, timely update situation can have it in the Pure.

    --HTC Click: My HTC Touch Pro2 had, hands down, the best keyboard on a mobile phone I've ever used. The Click is that handset with a new processor, more RAM and storage, and capacitive screen.

    --HTC Tower: If you live or work too far away from a tower for a normal handset to get a signal, the Tower will ensure your call gets there.

    --HTC Vault: For users with far too much data, this handset has 256GB of internal storage, and uses the same technology as a desktop SSD to ensure that data gets in and out as fast as possible.

    --HTC Flick: Glass lenses and optical zoom increase the thickness of this handset that has a camera that outperforms even most dedicated point-and-shoot cameras from Canon and Nikon.

    --HTC Simplicity: There's still a small dumbphone market, and the Jitterbug caters to users who want a phone that reliably makes phone calls and is easy to read. The Jitterbug can withstand a little competition.

    --HTC Tinker: This handset is born to be hacked. No locked bootloader, no rooting required, and images for Android, Windows Phone 8, and Ubuntu are all available direct from the manufacturer.

    There are plenty of niches where HTC can compete. They just have to stop trying to play the "lowest common denominator" card and trying to convince users to choose them over the Galaxy S3.

    • by zyzko (6739)

      I like your ideas, but the final question in the marketing meeting is: How many people will buy this? And while your ideas are great and all...there is not so much market for those. Because the consumer (or their employer) selects the one which is the latest fad or most cost-efficient. An example: Nokia has tried for years to be "the manufacturer" in quality (I know personally how they test they their stuff and compare it to competitors, and it is quite thorough) and in cameras. So far the results...not so

    • by tool462 (677306)

      Nice, but you forgot one:
      --HTC Pony: Designed exclusively for a hypothetical user base (probably doesn't exist) that will cost millions in development and, if lucky, will sell 10s if not 100s to easily disoriented consumers. At least two Reddit subforums will absolutely love it. The subsequent bankruptcy filing by HTC will ensure the highly collectible status of the phone.

    • by static416 (1002522) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @04:59PM (#42948351)

      Interesting ideas, but to play devils advocate, there are many problems with what you propose.

      Primarily, this many SKU's is completely uneconomical for a company that's already seeing declining sales and profit margin. It's not just the number of models, it's the fact that they'll have to make multiple versions of each one for each country and carrier, and storage capacity.

      -- HTC Universal: In addition to all the flavours of 3G/H+, you want support for all LTE frequencies? Good luck with that. Even assuming that it's technologically and financially feesible to cram that many different radios into one handset, it's still not useful. Many CDMA providers will not let you bring a phone to their network that has not been purchased through their stores. Even some GSM providers that can't block it will make it as difficult as they can. Even then, how many people really need access to more than 2 networks at most? The market would be incredibly small, and the cost of the phone would be enormous.

      -- HTC Marathon: Interesting. But it's probably more reasonable to just sell one phone of any type with an option of multiple officially supported battery sizes.

      -- HTC Pure: It's possible, and I'd buy it, but chances are it won't happen. Officially selling a non-Nexus pure-Android phone implies that your Sense brand is not as great as you'd like. So it's unlikely.

      -- HTC Tinker: There is no way you'll ever get a phone that officially supports both Android and WP8. Microsoft would never allow that. And there is no convincing non-carrier reason you need to lock your bootloader on any device. Having a specific version just for the unlocked bootloader seems wasteful. Just unlock them all.

      Overall, it makes more sense to just make one or two phones and include whatever of these options are feasible.

      So instead of everything you proposed, they could just release the HTC One with an unlocked bootloader, varying internal storage, provide downloads for officially supported AOSP images, and multiple battery sizes. That's actually feasible and economical. That doesn't satisfy every possible niche, but it gets to the big ones, and the increase in production/engineering cost is much less significant.

      But it still won't happen. Fact is that the cost of catering to these niches is probably far more than then the associated increase in revenue. Best you can hope for is an unlocked bootloader.

      • You've echoed many of the sentiments responded elsewhere, and I'll hope that the other posters are eagle-eyed enough to see this response instead of me cutting-and-pasting everywhere.

        I pulled a few ideas off the top of my head, clearly without the market research or engineering teams required to actually bring one to fruition. I'm also not saying that every model is a good idea, just that if HTC keeps trying to compete with both the iPhone and Galaxy series phones, they're going to have to be very content w

    • by Belial6 (794905)
      I would buy an HTC Pure Marathon.

      The thing that gets me is that most phones have removable batteries. Why are the manufacturers not selling overpriced back plates with double, triple and quadruple sized batteries? It just cant be that expensive to make a replacement back plate.
  • by Jethro (14165)

    I want HTC to build a Nexus phone again. The Nexus One was (relatively speaking) the best Nexus phone made, in my opinion. The Samsung Nexus phones were/are OK (I have a Galaxy Nexus now) but they were never the absolute top of the line phones. The Nexus 4 is a nice piece of hardware but has some serious flaws (low, non-expandable memory being the show-stopper for me).

    I might have to just give up on Nexus phones and hope for good Cyanogenmod support for this guy. But I'll see what Google brings out in May.

    • I want HTC to build a Nexus phone again. The Nexus One was (relatively speaking) the best Nexus phone made, in my opinion

      I agree... I had a Nexus One and to this day, it was my favorite smartphone.

      Unfortunately, that phone was destroyed due to water damage. I've tried 3 replacements and none have compared.

      Currently I am using a HTC One V. If you look at the hardware specs, it seems to be a decent phone, but it is slowed down by this horrid abomination know as Sense.

      Sense alone will stop be from buying any other HTC phone. It is slow as sh!t...

      The UI itself is horrid... The contacts/dialer interface is complete different from

      • by Jethro (14165)

        > Sense alone will stop be from buying any other HTC phone. It is slow as sh!t...

        See I don't care about that kind of stuff, since any phone I get HAS to have CyanogenMod support. GOOD CyanogenMod support!

  • Wow, finally a phone with a readable screen. Those 300ppi screens were just killing my eyes. That 1080p screen totally makes my 1280x768 screen obsolete. /s

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