Windows Phone 8 Users Hit Some Snags 391
symbolset writes "As reported on The Verge, many people are experiencing freezing, rebooting and battery problems on their new Windows Phone 8 devices. This WP8Central thread shows many of the issues. Affected devices include Lumia 920 and HTC 8X." Every phone and every OS has its problems, and happy users probably aren't as vocal; it would be good to know how Windows Phone users who are also iOS and Android users compare them for reliability.
Re:I don't get it. (Score:5, Informative)
Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (Score:1, Informative)
Re:I don't get it. (Score:5, Informative)
Please don't confuse a bump in a major version number with a "huge rewrite". It's marketing for "we added more features," no "we've rewritten this for the seventh time."
Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 still had GDI-related vulnerabilities in WMF/EMF handling left over from the Windows 3.0 days... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms08-021 [microsoft.com]
Windows Phone 7 was based on the WinCE kernel, Windows Phone 8 is based on the WinNT kernel. if that's not a "huge rewrite", I don't know what is.
Re:I don't get it. (Score:5, Informative)
I've got an LG Optimus 7, running Win phone 7 Mango - it reboots daily, especially while in the "messages" (ie, SMS) app.
Then again I've read that's common on the LG Optimus specifically.
I'm using the standard apps, plus Exchange mail integration only.
When it's not rebooting, as a basic phone + email reader, it's not bad. My old Nokia "dumb" phone also worked fine as a basic phone with twice the standby time.
I don't think I'll "upgrade" to Windows 8 phone, though
Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (Score:4, Informative)
Considering most of the supporters of Microsoft (dare I say "fanboys") have REALLY high UID's or are anonymous cowards.... yes, it is hard to believe, and it is hard to understand why after all the years of abuse from the Linux/Apple crowd the Microsoft fans would continue to come in and spend most of their time defending their fanboyness to people who wouldn't use windows if it came with a blowjob from Selma Hayek.
edge cases? (Score:4, Informative)
Hello,
It would be interesting to know the scope of the problem(s), and how to exercise the(se) bug(s).
I have had a Nokia Lumia 920 for just under a week now (replacing my year old Nokia Lumia 900) and have not noted any performance or battery-life related issues with it. Admittedly, I have not done that much with it yet, as I am still reloading applications onto it (an area which is keen for improvement), but I have to say it has worked consistently without problem.
I wonder if the problems are due to a specific application or manufacturer-applied configuration.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
Re:I don't get it. (Score:5, Informative)
It's less a rewrite and more a port. I imagine they could run Windows Phone on x86, they run Windows 8 on ARM (Windows RT) after all.
The funny thing is that vulnerabilities affecting Windows 8 may also affect Windows RT and Windows Phone 8. And if it's one they can trace back like the WMF/EMF bug the GP cited...
Re:thanks for asking (Score:2, Informative)
The Character, being part of the R-series of low-end CDMA devices destined for carriers such as MetroPCS and US Cellular runs Qualcomm's BREW operating system with TouchWiz Lite as the overlay. Samsung and Nokia never officially ported Symbian to CDMA, Samsung were never allowed to outside of Korea, per the terms of their previous deal with Nokia/Symbian Ltd and Nokia's hostile attitude towards Qualcomm on CDMA patent licensing prevented CDMA Symbian devices from being actively developed for the US.
Re:I don't get it. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (Score:5, Informative)
I haven't had a Windows Phone since 6.1(which was meh) but I do enjoy running Windows 8 on my desktop and have enjoyed almost every Windows version since Windows 95b except for ME(yes, even Vista). Is my UID low enough to be taken at face value?
my wife's Lumia 920 has been returned (Score:4, Informative)
Re:No issue with my Lumia 920 (Score:0, Informative)
It's a friggin joke, pencil neck.
Yes, Windows certainly has (in the past, if not now) required more reboots than many other operating systems, for a long time.
It should be pretty obvious to anybody not completely humor-impaired, that Windows phones don't *actually* require a reboot to accept a call or update position. I guess that counts you out, though.
Re:No issue with my Lumia 920 (Score:4, Informative)
Cute, but I doubt that bad.
I've had an iPhone4S, a couple of Androids (Samsuck, HTC) and a Windows Mobile 7 phone (HTC).
Outside of the Samsungs, they've all been exceptionally stable. Apple has the best ecosystem, but IMO is the least user friendly. Android is probably the most user friendly, but tries to be too similar to a desktop system, and feels slightly clunkly. Windows Mobile 7 has a horribly poor selection of apps, almost as user friendly as Android and has a fairly smooth design for mobile setups. Playing with Windows 8 on a desktop, I doubt much has changed, but given the ravamp of the OS, I wouldn't consider buying a phone with it for at least a few months to a year yet, at minimum. Stick with Android.
The only system I've had anywhere similar a reboot experience as you described was on the Samsung Androids (one was a Transform, the other was the replacement model for a Transform).
Re:I had a Windows phone... once. (Score:4, Informative)
I've had a Windows Phone 7 phone, including the upgrade of the OS, it's required maybe that many restarts in the past 1.5 years - this is about the same over a given duration as my use of the iPhone4s while over seas, and as some of my friends with good Androids. A lot better than the two crap androids I've had.
Note: I'd actually recommend most people get a good Android phone over a Windows phone, but if you are going to criticize the phone, criticize it on it's flaws, it's got enough of them, don't try to invent shit.
You should mention *which* version of the phone you've had.