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Verizon Wireless Goes Ahead With 'Bucket' Data Plans 376

CanHasDIY writes "Previously, it was reported that Verizon was considering eliminating their current data plan scheme, as well as the grandfathered unlimited plans, in favor of a new 'bucket' plan in which up to 10 devices would share a data allotment. Verizon has now officially acknowledged the new scheme, called the 'Share Everything' plan, which will go into effect as of June 28, 2012. According to USA Today, 'Under the new pricing plan, a smartphone customer opting for the cheapest data bucket, 1 gigabyte, will pay $90 before taxes and fees ($40 for phone access and $50 for 1 GB). Customers can add a basic phone, laptop and tablet to share data for $30, $20 and $10, respectively.' Those of us still grandfathered into the unlimited plan will be forced (when upgrading) to either sign up for Share Everything or one of the tiered pricing plans currently in effect."
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Verizon Wireless Goes Ahead With 'Bucket' Data Plans

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  • Hyperbole much? (Score:4, Informative)

    by macwhizkid ( 864124 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @04:50PM (#40314337)

    'Under the new pricing plan, a smartphone customer opting for the cheapest data bucket, 1 gigabyte, will pay $90 before taxes and fees ($40 for phone access and $50 for 1 GB).

    Not that I'm a defender of Verizon, but why the hell would anyone sign up for a shared plan with only one device? Obviously you're going to lose out... the prices are designed to make it marginally cheaper to add additional devices in return for a higher "first device" fee.

    The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

  • Re:Hyperbole much? (Score:5, Informative)

    by CanHasDIY ( 1672858 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:00PM (#40314483) Homepage Journal

    The new "share everything" plans are designed to make it easier (and a bit cheaper) for families with a bunch of smartphones, a tablet or two, and text-messaging addicted teenagers. Not for single-device customers looking for a bargain.

    Indeed; that is addressed in a Q&A page linked from TFA: [usatoday.com]

    Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?
    A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

  • by Baloroth ( 2370816 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:04PM (#40314545)

    This is completely 100% false. THERE ARE NO OTHER PLANS. From the Q&A linked in TFA

    Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?

    A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

    In other words, you can do this plan for 1GB of data, or pay $80 for 300MB of data (basically, $40 for 300MB of data, since the phone access costs $40), or you can not buy a smartphone from Verizon. There are literally no other options for new customers.

  • Re:What the Hell??? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Sechr Nibw ( 1278786 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:17PM (#40314741)
    You can keep your unlimited data plan, for a price. Rather than signing a new 2 year contract, and saving $500 on your new phone, you can pay full price for the phone, not be locked into a 2 year agreement, and keep the unlimited data package.
  • Re:Oh really? (Score:5, Informative)

    by schwit1 ( 797399 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:19PM (#40314775)

    I just got the HTC EVO V on Virgin Mobile
    $45/month with 1200 minutes and unlimited data.
    4G, Android 4.0 and it's a hotspot.

  • Re:What the Hell??? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Man On Pink Corner ( 1089867 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:20PM (#40314793)

    How do you reconcile your statement with the Q&A from the article [usatoday.com]?

    Q: I'm single and I just want a smartphone, that's it. The cheapest Shared Everything plan looks pretty expensive at $90 per month, and that's with just 1 gigabyte of data. Is there no alternative?

    A: There's one cheaper plan, intended for first-time smartphone buyers. It gives you unlimited calling and texting, and just 300 megabytes of data per month. If you're frugal with data usage, that will get you by. It costs $80 per month.

    If USA Today is making that up, as you claim elsewhere, they have one hell of a lawsuit coming from Verizon. They would have yanked the quoted text the second someone told them how badly they'd gotten it wrong. Why is it still up there?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:20PM (#40314801)

    Go look at mobile phone plans in Austria if you really feel like getting your envy on. Drei.at: 1000 minutes, 1000 SMS, unlimited data (full speed up to 2GB, then 64kbps), 10€.

    How about France? mobile.free.fr: 20€ for unlimited calls to France, USA and Canada, unlimited calls to landlines in 40 countries, unlimited SMS within France, unlimited data (full speed up to 3GB, then throttled).

    If Americans traveled outside their own country more then they wouldn't accept the prices they pay.

  • Re:What the Hell??? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Baloroth ( 2370816 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:23PM (#40314821)
    Actually the current plans are going away. You can still use them if you already have one, but they are no longer available for new customers or customers who are upgrading to a smartphone. You also can't hang on to old unlimited data plans if you are upgrading, period (unless you pay full price for the phone, of course, although don't be surprised if Verizon "helpfully" upgrades you to the new plans anyways, wireless carriers have been known to do that in the past), though they can shift to a tiered plan, for now. Expect Verizon to phase those out completely as well in 2-3 years, just like they are with their unlimited data plans.
  • Re:*shrug* (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:24PM (#40314837)

    Please provide a link to a Verizon site that backs up your assertion - one that is shared by NONE of the articles I can fine.

    Everything said by anyone not on Slashdot is taking this as "you don't get a choice if you're a new [or upgrading] Verizon user". These are the ONLY plans.

    If you truly believe you're right and all those articles are wrong, back it up with evidence. Show us the link.

  • Re:What the Hell??? (Score:5, Informative)

    by C_amiga_fan ( 1960858 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:32PM (#40314963)

    This interview is hilarious:

    Verizon Spokeswoman: We think that people need to go to a usage-based model for data and pay for the amount of usage that they're using so that everybody is able to access the network...... And we're charging on the megabytes of data that they use.
    John Moe: Why?
    Spokeswoman: Uh................... er................... cough............... People have changed the usage of how they're using their devices. They're moving to using more data, and to ensure the speed and reliability and the access to the network, people are paying for the amount of data that they use.

    LINK - http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/verizon-trying-stamp-out-unlimited-data-customers [marketplace.org]

  • by bongey ( 974911 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:34PM (#40314989)
    Call Verizon yesterday about the ShareEverything Plan.
    My current plan has 4 smartphones , 1 basic and 1 tablet.
    The bill would go up by $30 dollars if I switched. The amount of data I could used would go down by 9 GB .
    Funny hearing the silence from the customer service agent when I asked him . "You mean my bill would go up and I only get 5GB for 5 devices ?"
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:47PM (#40315135)

    This is my favorite quote yet: "What I'm doing is giving you the flexibility to share the data you've paid for," Chief Marketing Officer Tami Erwin told Reuters. "Customers who are using more than one device will very quickly see the value in this." Which is from this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-family-data-plan_n_1589216.html

    They're charging me extra for letting me use the data I already paid for, and act like they're doing me some unusual favor.

  • Re:Not Forced (Score:3, Informative)

    by Physician ( 861339 ) on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @08:55PM (#40317343) Homepage
    "Verizon issued a clarification to The New York Times today, noting that the loss of grandfathered unlimited plans will be limited to those customers purchasing new subsidized devices for use on the carrier. Users who do not upgrade their devices or who choose to upgrade at unsubsidized prices will be able to keep their unlimited data plans. Still, the change would appear to be set to affect the majority of Verizon's current unlimited data customers, as most customers are interested in regular handset upgrades at subsidized prices. - Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so. - When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing. - Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. - The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones."

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