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After MS-Nokia Pact, Many Nokia Workers Walk Out In Protest 601

Posted by timothy
from the let's-enjoy-the-brisk-finnish-air dept.
Mr. McGibby writes "After the announcement of the partnership between Nokia and Microsoft this morning workers voiced their concern with the deal by walking out of Nokia facilities. It is believed that as many as a thousand workers marched out today (or took the day off using flex time) so that the company would know that they don't believe the partnership is in their best interest, even after CEO' Stephen Elop's startlingly frank 'burning platform' memo earlier this week."
Looks like many investors felt the same way.
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After MS-Nokia Pact, Many Nokia Workers Walk Out In Protest

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  • Looking for Job (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mudpup (14555) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:07AM (#35183408) Homepage Journal

    If I worked at Nokia I would be looking for a job, like yesterday.

    • Re:Looking for Job (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Bill_the_Engineer (772575) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:10AM (#35183704)

      Actually I think it would be better to keep a job. Be honest, you wouldn't quit a paying job. Of course you meant that you'd start looking at the employment sites during your off time.

      I don't think this will be the end of Nokia. If anything it may be the smartest thing they've done. They obviously been stagnate way too long and there are just too many handset manufacturers jumping on the android bandwagon. This leaves Nokia with the option of being just another lemming going with Android or differentiating themselves by hooking up with Microsoft. Frankly going with Google or Microsoft is better than Nokia's status quo.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by rtb61 (674572)

        Everybody can guess exactly what is going on. M$ is paying off Nokia to install windows in a desperate bid to gain market share. How this back hander is being managed to effectively reduce the retail price of Nokia phones, is anyone's guess. perhpas M$ will pay all of Nokia's marketing costs, perhaps M$ is going to buy a whole lot of Nokia gear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia [wikipedia.org] at inflated prices, as they do more than just make phones.

        Of course M$ can't be telling it's shareholders that they have to pay

        • Re:Looking for Job (Score:4, Interesting)

          by alambda (1851436) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @02:37AM (#35184012)

          Have you not read the news regarding the matter and yet care to comment? Yes, I must be new here...

          1. Windows wants to gain market share. Nokia wants to gain market share. Nokia would've been too late to jump on the Android bandwagon and thus chose to differentiate by "creating" an "ecosystem" of its own, with Microsoft. It was stressed time and time again yesterday that for Nokia to succeed in this regard, Windows Phone must prevail.

          2. It was explicitly stated that Nokia would pay royalties to Microsoft and that this would increase cost per sold unit, but at the same time it was stressed that they could make cuts in their own OS R&D, which is the biggest reason the people marched out: The locations mentioned in the news here are filled with thousands of Symbian developers.

          3. Also, Elop has said several times that the deal is not only one-way. While Nokia's phone's would be using e.g. Bing, powered by Microsoft, they expect that when you use Bing maps, you might see something of the sort Bing maps, powered by Nokia, for Nokia is at the bleeding edge of navigational software, thanks to Navteq. Thus the details of the deal aren't as simple as you make it out to be.

          • Re:Looking for Job (Score:5, Informative)

            by shutdown -p now (807394) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @06:07AM (#35184720) Journal

            As a matter of fact, Bing Maps are already powered by Navteq maps (licensed from Nokia).

            • I don't think that's true. We have our own mapping technology. note, this doens't mean we may have used some Nokia stuff from time to time in one way or anohter. But bing maps isn't just re-packaged Nokia stuff. -foredecker
        • by iamhassi (659463)
          Shareholders? You're kidding, right? It took 5 or 6 years for the Xbox to break even, before that Microsoft was burning thru tens of millions every year just keeping the xbox afloat. But guess what? It paid off and now the xbox is a dominate player, perhaps even beating Sony with the new Kinect. Microsoft is dangerous because they can lose money for years and still continue to support something they believe will eventually work. Few other companies have that luxury.
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by symbolset (646467) *
            It hasn't "paid off" until the money they got from the business is more than the money they put into building it. Otherwise, it's just money spent to ruin other people's good businesses, which isn't the achievement shareholders are looking for. ETA for XBox to unlock that achievement: never.
          • Re:Looking for Job (Score:5, Insightful)

            by citizenr (871508) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @06:45AM (#35184870) Homepage

            Shareholders? You're kidding, right? It took 5 or 6 years for the Xbox to break even, before that Microsoft was burning thru tens of millions every year just keeping the xbox afloat. But guess what? It paid off

            Xbox division stopped making a loss, they did NOT start making profit (and wont for next ~10 years).
            No, earning more than you spend during one quarter doesnt count if you pumped $6B in R&D and marketing.
            Kinect alone was $600mil in marketing _before_ if even hit the shelves.

      • Re:Looking for Job (Score:5, Insightful)

        by node 3 (115640) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @02:06AM (#35183908)

        If anything it may be the smartest thing they've done.

        How often is partnering with Microsoft the smartest thing anyone's done?

        • Re:Looking for Job (Score:5, Insightful)

          by BBCWatcher (900486) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @08:46AM (#35185388)

          How often is partnering with Microsoft the smartest thing anyone's done?

          Intel has done OK.

          • AMD as done well, so has NVIDIA, HP. Dell would have if they hadnt shot themselves in the foot. So have many other OEMs and ODMs. In the client space - it certainly isnt Linux or any other FOSS software driving their business. Of course, Linux and LAMP are a strong competitors in the server space - but certainly not dominant.

            There are many, many Microsoft re-sellers and VARs that do quite well working with Microsoft. By quite well I mean nicely profitable over long periods of time.

            While slashdotters often

      • Re:Looking for Job (Score:5, Insightful)

        by IICV (652597) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @04:35AM (#35184452)

        Actually I think it would be better to keep a job. Be honest, you wouldn't quit a paying job. Of course you meant that you'd start looking at the employment sites during your off time.

        Uhm yeah, if you're an American. See, Americans generally have 1. No (or little) savings and 2. Almost no safety net.

        This means that if you object to something your company does, the only recourse is to passive-aggressively start sneaking around looking for other work - because you must be employed at all times, and not having a job is simply not an option. You can't actually, you know, make a stand or anything - your current life literally depends on the good graces of the company you work for, which means that you simply cannot do anything to piss them off unless you already have another company ready to take you in.

        I mean, there's a reason why people call our current society "neo-feudalism".

    • Now that Microsoft is going to assimilate Nokia, I am sure QT is in great danger. I pray that someone would get it and continue making it great as it is.

    • by Weezul (52464) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @07:49AM (#35185142)

      In memoriam : Microsoft's previous strategic mobile partners [asymco.com] lol

      All immediately after the N900 gets Android apps [youtube.com] too, sad & stupid Nokia. If Intel's buddies continue pursuing MeeGo tablets, we'll maybe come back around to a MeeGo phone again, eventually.

      Ideally, Finland might provide startup funds for some ex-Nokia employees wishing to bring another MeeGo phone to market. A small tech company with less overhead could do so far more inexpensively.

  • Steve-O (Score:4, Funny)

    by apostrophesemicolon (816454) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:10AM (#35183418) Journal
    Stephen Elop
    Steve Ballmer
    Steve Jobs
    Scuba Steve


    Should I name my next kid STEVE??? \(`)/
  • Missing information (Score:5, Informative)

    by 03Cobra (826073) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:10AM (#35183420) Homepage
    The summary is a tad misleading. It states that most who protested this work on the Symbian OS. So they are protesting because lots will probably lose their jobs. Not because they hold in their belief that the partnership is bad.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      How about people that work on Qt? Hopefully Nokia will not end up killing the best toolkit that exists for desktop development.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by msauve (701917)
      You think the two are mutually exclusive?
    • by symbolset (646467) * on Saturday February 12, 2011 @06:53AM (#35184902) Journal
      This is misleading. This isn't a US labor work-action style of walkout, which is about influencing management. These folks knew they were likely losing their jobs and went home to consider their options and grasp the thing emotionally. Their work contract includes the flexibility to do this, which is a responsible and compassionate way to manage people.
    • Alternatively, consider HTC - you know, the company that basically got started selling WinMo devices, and is now one of *the* big names in smartphone manufacture world-wide?

      I'm not saying this couldn't go sour for Nokia, because it obviously could. But it certainly isn't guaranteed to, and could in fact pay off very handsomely indeed.

      • by phantomfive (622387) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @03:52AM (#35184270) Journal
        HTC was a nothing company that got lucky making a deal with a big partner. They had nowhere to go but up, and nothing Microsoft could take from them.

        Nokia is a huge company that is selling its soul to the devil. I'm not talking about Microsoft: they've chosen the route of dying tech giants. They've refused Android because of their patent portfolio. It is one thing for a company to use patents while they continue to innovate, but when they give up innovation to focus on extortion, that's a death deal.

        They could have chosen differently: they could have decided to make both Android and WP7 phones, and even continue with Symbian (although Symbian is dying). Samsung makes beautiful Android and WP7 phones. If anything, this deal most resembles SGI, giving up on their own excellent OS to run (what was then pathetic) WindowsNT on their machines. Not long after SGI became a shell of a company, with nothing but a large patent portfolio. RIP SGI. RIP Nokia.
        • by iserlohn (49556) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @07:13AM (#35184990) Homepage

          HTC was never particularly successful in the mass market before Android. In the WinMo days, HTC phone targeted the poweruser that could live with WinMo's faults while it perfected the in-house hardware design and software customization skills. Basically, MS gave it a launching pad, but you have to give credit to HTC for their initiative, most Taiwanese WinMo partners wasn't able to see pass the fact that WinMo was a dead end. HTC saw this and tactically positioned itself in the Android camp, while paying lip service to Microsoft. The HD2 was the ultimate exercise in the futile attempt of polishing a turd.

          In GSM markets, since the release of the Desire, things have been up and up for HTC. The Desire is the first real iPhone alternative for the casual smartphone user. It's easy to use, looks good, and can load apps from the Market fuss-free. Push email works well and you get to sync all of your important PIM details such as contacts and calendars for free. Navigation via Google Maps is not only free but ever improving.

  • Nokia may be hosed (Score:5, Informative)

    by plopez (54068) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:14AM (#35183444) Journal

    MS has a history of hosing it's "partners". Sybase, threats to cutoff Intel's air supply, and the "Stinger" phone OS are some examples. As the saying goes, "If the lamb lies down with the lion, it better not fall asleep."

    • I worked at FTP Software(yes, by now you've never heard of them) when they partnered with Microsoft. The guy hired away from Apple said "Microsoft would never screw us." Everyone in the room laughed, then printed their resumes. The company did not last long.

      • by Bill_the_Engineer (772575) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:20AM (#35183752)

        The only thing Microsoft did to hurt FTP software was to finally include a TCP stack in windows, which was already standard in all the other OSes of the time.

        FTP software was mismanaged and had a very public downward spiral. To pin this all on Microsoft after the fact is absurd.

        • by toriver (11308) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @06:05AM (#35184710)

          One of the products FTP Software were to sell was Vermeer Technologies' Frontpage web page editor. But just as the boxes were shipping, Vermeer was bought by Microsoft and they had to put stickers on the boxes saying "Now Microsoft Frontpage"...

          (I worked at a company selling network software at the time, including FTP Software's products.)

    • by rsborg (111459) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:59AM (#35183896) Homepage

      Here [asymco.com]. My favorite one:

      And finally,

      Nokia. No, not this OS deal, but in August 2009 ”The worldwide leader in software and the world’s largest smartphone manufacturer have entered into an alliance that is set to deliver a groundbreaking, enterprise-grade solution for mobile productivity. Today, Microsoft Business Division President Stephen Elop and Nokia’s Executive Vice President for Devices Kai Öistämö announced the agreement, outlining a shared vision for the future of mobile productivity. This is the first time that either company has embarked on an alliance of this scope and nature.”

      The plan was to bring “Microsoft Office Mobile and Microsoft business communications, collaboration and device management software to Nokia’s Symbian devices.”

      What happened? One and a half years later the same Stephen Elop announced that Symbian will be deprecated.

  • by Tiger Smile (78220) <james@dornRABBITan.com minus herbivore> on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:16AM (#35183452) Homepage

    They should zune ahead of Apple and Google in no time.

  • Doh! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:20AM (#35183486)

    Of course it's a stupid idea. But what did they expect? They hired a former MS exec to be their CEO. Of course he would make them dependent on MS - that's the only thing the fool can be expected to know.

    It's like SGI hiring a former HP exec to be their CEO and then killing off MIPS to move to Itanium - totally and utterly predictable because these guys only know the bubble they've been in for most of their corporate career. They can't "think outside of the box" because they are the box.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:20AM (#35183488)

    A Nokia executive once said that switching to Android would be like peeing your pants for warmth. It might help temporarily, but would turn your phones into commodities. Nokia would be forced to sell based on price alone!

    I submit that going with WP7 is worse. It has all the disadvantages of Android in that your competitors can use it also, so it turns your phones into commodities. But it has none of the advantages - the extensive Android market, UI customization, and no OS licensing fee.

    Using WP7 is like peeing your pants while Redmond gives you a golden shower.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by cbhacking (979169)

      Just for the sake of clearing up this oft-repeated fallacy:

      Android is all about choice; you can either have no licensing fee, OR you can have "the extensive Android market." Those are mutually exclusive, though. Google charges for access to that market.

      In fact, the numbers I've heard indicate that OEMs pay more to Google for each Droid (or similar) than they do to Microsoft for each WP7 phone. It's still only a few dollars each way, but Android is only free if you don't include *any* of Google's services on

      • by Zelgadiss (213127)

        There are other stores, not as big as Google's but they are there.

        Amazon is getting into the app market too.

      • by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @03:27AM (#35184192)

        In fact, the numbers I've heard indicate that OEMs pay more to Google for each Droid (or similar) than they do to Microsoft for each WP7 phone. It's still only a few dollars each way, but Android is only free if you don't include *any* of Google's services on it.

        Of course you're ignoring the big elephant there in the corner. Who cares whether Microsoft charges less per handset than Google, given that just about no one the company's trying to sell phones to wants a Windows phone? What actually matters is that Android phones are actually desirable, while customers' opinions regarding Windows phones have been spiraling around the drain for 2-3 years now.

    • by Bieeanda (961632)

      Using WP7 is like peeing your pants while Redmond gives you a golden shower.

      Wait, wouldn't that void your warranty as well as your bladder? The fiends!

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by jappleng (1805148)
      I tend to like peeing in my pants to stay warm as much as the next guy but I don't think that's going to resolve anything. There are two paths that companies can take to make a hardware/platform successful. You can either act like a pope and tell the world that it's the single most greatest thing in all existence and everyone will follow you like a cult, or you can create a developer friendly environment that makes your heart warm from working with the system. Microsoft has never come out with software that
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by phantomfive (622387)
        Protip: if you don't want to sound like an astroturfer, don't say things that could have come from a Microsoft marketing pamphlet; sure they want you to believe that "XNA is an incredible environment," but it's not that much better or worse than any other graphics framework.

        Also saying that another platform is bad because it uses Java just shows your inexperience. Even if you don't particularly like Java (I don't), it is certainly an adequate language. It's a n00b mistake. People who love programming wil
      • by shutdown -p now (807394) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @06:30AM (#35184798) Journal

        Microsoft has never come out with software that makes your teeth crunch for software development

        I really wish that was true (and appreciate that there are people out there who honestly believe it). Alas, you're mistaken.

        Here's an exercise for you. Find a nearest developer with some experience extending SharePoint. Ask him what he thinks about the API, the documentation, and overall design. Count the expletives. Zen will be that much closer.

  • by sonamchauhan (587356) <sonamcNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:31AM (#35183528) Journal

    New Nokia CEO, Stephen Elop's career, as documented on Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

    Before starting at Nokia, Elop worked for Microsoft from January 2008 to September 2010 as the head of the Business Division, responsible for the Microsoft Office line of products, and as a member of the company's senior leadership team. Before this, he was the COO of Juniper Networks, the president of worldwide field operations at Adobe Systems, and the CEO of Macromedia until acquisition by Adobe.
    ----

    Lots of CEOs,CIOs, etc. bring in old workmates in their new workplace. While the existing relationship simplifies trust and reporting, things don't always go to plan, as folks don't really know workmates that well. I wonder is this is similar. He knew Ballmer and decided to forge an alliance based on a past work relationship. Or perhaps, one of the big reasons for his hire was his relationship with the Microsoft leadership team.

  • by Zenin (266666) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:46AM (#35183588) Homepage

    The Nokia execs and some tech writers make the case that Nokia thrives by selling very low end, but very robust phones in the hundreds of millions to the 3rd world where a modern smart phone wouldn't survive a day. They make the case that the Internet will be brought to developing nations via cell phones...low end cell phones, not high end smart phones.

    It's a failed vision.

    It is the vision of yesterday and today, but not of tomorrow. The "low end" of today won't exist tomorrow. Smart phones are advancing at such a pace that in the very near future none of the drawbacks they have today for developing nations (not rugged, very low battery life, high cost, etc) will still hold true. The market for low end voice/text-only cell phones will get taken over by low end smart phones....and chances are they'll be running Android, not Windows 7.

    Nokia will be dead in ten years, quite possibly five.

    • by mehrotra.akash (1539473) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:57AM (#35183652)
      Not really, in current smartphones, the screen itself costs upwards of $20 I believe. Whereas non smartphones are available for less than $20.
      Assuming that the cost of an Android phone comes down to say $30, the price of a non smartphone will most prob. go down to $5 or so(only a tiny monochrome screen, cheaper processor,smaller battery-- infact one of the phones launched for approx$50 here has a standby time of 30 days, and the option of using AA cells in an emergercy)
      You need to live in a developing nation to know the needs..
      • by sunspot42 (455706) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:48AM (#35183846)

        >Not really, in current smartphones, the screen itself costs upwards of $20 I believe.

        And what will a similar screen cost in 3 years? Probably $5. Tomorrow's smartphones will be as cheap as or cheaper than today's featurephones. Maybe everybody in the developing world won't be able to afford one, but hundreds of millions of people certainly will.

        Motorola just announced an Android phone that can be hooked up to a docking station and connect to a monitor and full sized keyboard for use as a little computer. What happens in the developing world when your $50 smartphone can also double as your office and/or home computer? Suddenly that $50 smartphone looks like a pretty incredible deal.

        • by klui (457783)

          I would agree with this. Just like today you can't buy a new 10GB hard disk, in 5 years people probably won't be able to purchase a non-smart phone except in rare circumstances.

        • by sznupi (719324)
          Hundreds of millions of people, fine... that's already the case with present sub 20% share of userbase, with Symbian alone shipping 100+ million last year. Now compare it to, currently, 5+ billion of mobile subscribers. Certainly 6 before not too long (most of them not having own monitor, BTW; or dependable access to electricity)

          Don't apply your experiences from very atypical place to the rest of the world. Don't listen to pundits doing likewise. I'm sure you think iPod was the dominating mp3 player world
    • What is a smart phone. For many its a mini laptop.
      But for 99% of users in the developing market its a phone
      1. Which can surf the internet
      2. Watch videos
      3. GPS
      4. Facebook/docs/gmail

      In India we already have rebranded chinese phones for 6000 INR. These are unlocked, as concept of locked phones has not caught on in India.
      A bare bones phone(sms + phone + alarm) costs 1500 INR.

      If you want a decent phone which can take a few bumps and yet run apps and surf the net, you have 8000-9000 INR "sportsphones".

      2 years bac

  • by NimbleSquirrel (587564) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @12:54AM (#35183638)
    MS want to go after Android. With an ex-MS man at the helm of Nokia, I'm not surprised they have pushed this deal through (especially since MS have managed to piss of their other handset manufacturers, and they have in turn jumped to Android). It may hurt Android market share very briefly, but I'll wager it won't be for very long before Nokia dumps WinPhone7 if this deal even goes through.

    MS is trying to play catch-up with Apple and Android, and is losing badly. Wasn't Elop complaining the other day that Nokia was stuck playing catch-up? How can throwing their lot in with MS help them? Unless Elop is playing this deal with MS, so he has a magic bullet against Apple, I can't see their market position getting any better.

    I do have to wonder if this deal is more about solving Nokia's legal battles with Apple. Surely MS will happily hand over patent licenses if Nokia is going to make WInPhone7 devices. Not only would this potentially void some of Apple's patent claims against Nokia, but even if Apple won in the ITC, the devices it is seeking an injunction against will not be around much longer. On top of that, MS would see a handy market boost if the ITC found in favour of Nokia and placed an injunction against the GSM iPhone. There is a reason Apple is trying to kill GSM and pick up CDMA: they probably see they aren't going to win the GSM patent lawsuits that Nokia have filed against them. In terms of the Apple vs Nokia battle, Nokia aligning themselves with Microsoft is an almost perfect match. I'd say that there is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes of this deal, in terms of patent cross-licensing, but Nokia won't reveal that until they get in a courtroom.

    Given the sharholder and employee revolt against this decision, Elop may not be around much longer to see it through.
    • by toriver (11308)

      There is a reason Apple is trying to kill GSM and pick up CDMA

      Way to read way too much into the release of the Verizon iPhone (which happens to have a dual GSM/CDMA chip in it).

      GSM is a worldwide standard, CDMA is used in what, three countries?

    • > There is a reason Apple is trying to kill GSM and pick up CDMA:
      > they probably see they aren't going to win the GSM patent lawsuits that Nokia
      > have filed against them.

      Are you daft?

      There is no way that Apple is going to drop the GSM iPhone. CDMA is used almost nowhere outside of the US and Australia (do they still use it?).. Well, and Iraq, due to American colonial imperliasm.

      The rest of the planet uses GSM, even the Canadian CDMA carriers are migrating away and sell GSM iPhones. And no carrier

  • by gstrickler (920733) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:23AM (#35183758)
    ...the day Nokia committed suicide, abandoning their own top selling smartphone OS for one of the worst selling smartphone OS on the market.
  • by Dunbal (464142) * on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:34AM (#35183804)
    TFSummary makes reference to the "burning platform". Here is the "burning platform" spiel from Stephen Elop (Nokia CEO) in its entirety. Blame the lack of paragraphs on slashdot's new, stupid lack of formatting. I'm too lazy to do it myself paragraph by paragraph.

    “There is a pertinent story about a man who was working on an oil platform in the North Sea. He woke up one night from a loud explosion, which suddenly set his entire oil platform on fire. In mere moments, he was surrounded by flames. Through the smoke and heat, he barely made his way out of the chaos to the platform’s edge. When he looked down over the edge, all he could see were the dark, cold, foreboding Atlantic waters. As the fire approached him, the man had mere seconds to react. He could stand on the platform, and inevitably be consumed by the burning flames. Or, he could plunge 30 meters in to the freezing waters. The man was standing upon a “burning platform,” and he needed to make a choice. He decided to jump. It was unexpected. In ordinary circumstances, the man would never consider plunging into icy waters. But these were not ordinary times - his platform was on fire. The man survived the fall and the waters. After he was rescued, he noted that a “burning platform” caused a radical change in his behaviour. We too, are standing on a “burning platform,” and we must decide how we are going to change our behaviour. Over the past few months, I’ve shared with you what I’ve heard from our shareholders, operators, developers, suppliers and from you. Today, I’m going to share what I’ve learned and what I have come to believe. I have learned that we are standing on a burning platform. And, we have more than one explosion - we have multiple points of scorching heat that are fuelling a blazing fire around us. For example, there is intense heat coming from our competitors, more rapidly than we ever expected. Apple disrupted the market by redefining the smartphone and attracting developers to a closed, but very powerful ecosystem. In 2008, Apple’s market share in the $300+ price range was 25 percent; by 2010 it escalated to 61 percent. They are enjoying a tremendous growth trajectory with a 78 percent earnings growth year over year in Q4 2010. Apple demonstrated that if designed well, consumers would buy a high-priced phone with a great experience and developers would build applications. They changed the game, and today, Apple owns the high-end range. And then, there is Android. In about two years, Android created a platform that attracts application developers, service providers and hardware manufacturers. Android came in at the high-end, they are now winning the mid-range, and quickly they are going downstream to phones under €100. Google has become a gravitational force, drawing much of the industry’s innovation to its core. Let’s not forget about the low-end price range. In 2008, MediaTek supplied complete reference designs for phone chipsets, which enabled manufacturers in the Shenzhen region of China to produce phones at an unbelievable pace. By some accounts, this ecosystem now produces more than one third of the phones sold globally - taking share from us in emerging markets. While competitors poured flames on our market share, what happened at Nokia? We fell behind, we missed big trends, and we lost time. At that time, we thought we were making the right decisions; but, with the benefit of hindsight, we now find ourselves years behind. The first iPhone shipped in 2007, and we still don’t have a product that is close to their experience. Android came on the scene just over 2 years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes. Unbelievable. We have some brilliant sources of innovation inside Nokia, but we are not bringing it to market fast enough. We thought MeeGo would be a platform for winning high-end smartphones. However, at this rate, b

  • Shareholder suits? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Daniel Phillips (238627) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @02:40AM (#35184034)

    I am wondering if there will be shareholder suits. Elop's action is clearly not in the interest of Nokia shareholders as graphically demonstrated by the trading results today.

    Even more interesting would be if evidence of breach of fiduciary duty was uncovered on Elop's part. Were bribes paid?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2011 @03:48AM (#35184258)

    ... serves them right (posting as AC to not get into trouble).

    The 1000 people who staged a walkout in Tampere, Finland were mostly Symbian developers who are protesting/scared for their jobs. As someone who lives in Finland and works with mobile devices for a living, this makes me plain angry. Nokia has 1500+ Symbian developers in Tampere and 500+ in Salo, that's over 2000 developers working on Symbian. What the fuck have you people been doing for all these years? Where are the results? And now that finally the new CEO decided to shake things up before Nokia goes completely tits up, you are protesting? Gee, the bubble you've been living in bursting must've hurt - think of it, Symbian wasn't a good, user- and developer-friendly environment you've brainwashed yourself into thinking it was.

    It really was/is cringe-worthy, how out of touch you people were. Not 3 months ago, I was talking to some Nokia developers and they were keeping a straight face while touting the N8 as some kind of an amazing device and downplaying the Apple and Android ecosystem and talking how "Symbian added value to the user-expience". I kid you not!

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by kovari (34550)

      What the fuck have you people been doing for all these years?

      Apparently, they were being mismanaged.

    • by ProppaT (557551) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @08:16AM (#35185254) Homepage

      These were kind of my thoughts, but it's nice to see them reiterated by someone a bit closer to the situation. Symbian, as great as it was, has sat stagnant for years. I've often wondered what the development team was doing myself; however, when you put it into perspective of thousands of developers, it really makes no sense.

      I think the partnership with Microsoft could be strategic for both companies. Microsoft really needs a company to grab onto WP7 and bring it full force to the market. HTC is the biggest pusher of the OS at the minute and they're basically just making handsets to entertain the small portion of the market that sees the potential in the WP7 platform. Nokia needs someone to keep them on life support. WP7 really is a terrific platform, especially seeing how young it is. People like to write off Microsoft, but they've come a long way as far as modernizing their brand goes. I, personally, look forward to potentially using a Nokia WP7 device some day. It's the only platform, other than WebOS (my current mobile OS), that really interests me.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      "What the fuck have you people been doing for all these years?"

      Good question.

      Of course the actual number is bigger than that, because there is development spread around the world.

      The same is true for Meego, with at least 1000 developers (in one site).

      It makes little since to the people working there either, if they are honest.

      (Ubuntu has 300 employees for example).

      The CEO asked "How many layers to have to go down before I stop seeing Power Point".

      While I agree with the CEO's assessment of the previous ineff

    • I don't see what technical people working on Symbian have to do with the decisions that shape the direction that Symbian takes. They are mostly executants. If there's fault anywhere, it's at management level.

      These people's reaction strikes me as the anger of someone who did all they could, even probably advised against management's poor choices, only to be ignored and finally discarded. They end up being the ones thrown out while the management keeps their jobs and gets a new toy to play with.

  • by erroneus (253617) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @03:50AM (#35184262) Homepage

    In the past, when we see company X do business with Microsoft, the only moaning we hear it limited to slashdotoid circles. This has got to be the first time I have ever seen where a body of employees and the stock market also agreed that doing business with Microsoft was a bad idea.

    I haven't read through all of the comments yet, but I'm guessing someone has already started asking questions about "acting in the best interests of the share holders" matter. Of course, as Nokia is not a US company I'm guessing that's virtually a non-issue.

    I hope the whole world is now paying attention to Microsoft's touch of death. Microsoft "partners" are usually just lambs lining up for the slaughter.

  • I have become excited about the Nokia N900, which is like an ordinary computer in that it runs a Debian-based Linux distribution (Maemo) with a software repository and everything. Now, I was eagerly waiting for the successor to the N900, running MeeGo (the successor to Maemo) and then they go and cancel it! Unless I settle for the ageing N900, there is no reason left for me to consider Nokia products anymore. I'll just go on with my current eight or nine years old phone, which can do all the things I actually need - GSM, SMS and alarm. Killing their most flexible Linux operating system and initiating a collaboration with Microsoft - pfft, how unimpressive.

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